Quote from: ThaomasOfGrey on October 07, 2015, 05:01:03One approach - I believe from Bedeekin's Method is to move with all willpower towards a goal like grabbing a rope. This is not visualization, it should feel like it is really happening. I haven't really tried this myself as it seems risky for such a delicate state.
Yes - I had just read that myself & thought exactly the same. My fear (which'd probably happen) is that I'd simply find myself thrusting my physical body into the air breaking from my state... maybe my fear of that isn't well placed - might as well try I guess.
I'll have to try your stretching technique too in addition to other mentionables within the stickies. A shame the Side Note scenario doesn't provide ample settings to project, mm.
Quote from: EscapeVelocity on October 07, 2015, 04:41:40
You are very close. Almost any technique you choose to work with should yield results, soon...but it may not show in the exact manner that you expect...it may be RTZ, it may be full 3D astral, it may be lucid dream-like...
Part of this process, at least I think, is seeking and giving yourself permission to do this on a very instinctive/subconscious level...so you have to put the request out there and into your mind and give some time for a response...even some nightly affirmations giving yourself permission to do this can help. What you describe sounds like it is already happening to some degree, so maybe this will help reinforce it.
Don't discriminate between the lucid dream and the full-on obe...take whatever you get...honestly, that's how it works at this point and it can be really frustrating at times...
Take what you get and move from there...that is part of the wonderful challenge. It's a great jigsaw and we are all working it!
Welcome!
Unfortunately the "any techniques" so far, have been a real bummer for me. It's as most would probably agree, simply a state whereby one doesn't understand what he's doing because he hasn't done it before - but once he has, it becomes crystal clear. First hurdle really is the hardest! I'll try some night affirmations. I've never properly used affirmations in regards to astral projection - but I have on several occasions affirmed to myself that I'll wake up the following day at an exact time, full refreshed; & bang on the time I did so, feeling wonderful.
As for Astral vs Lucid;; well, I have made a divide between the two. Lucid doesn't appeal to me from its lack of control (which is great in a dream, but from my understanding, lacks the true control one might have when astral projecting). I suppose, as you ultimately said, anything is better than nothing. I've just focused entirely on the former, paying no attention Ever to the latter over the past. Don't even know where to begin with lucid dreaming ! Eitherway, I'll embrace it if it naturally occurs or is a by-product of Projection attempts, but I'm not trying to achieve it primarily. That's, fine, right?
Also- what's RTZ?