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I admit I have negative things going in my mind.   When it happens I say to myself stop it.   If it keeps happening I keep saying stop it.   It eventually stops.   It does not take long for the negative thoughts to stop.   When I am in the astral I do not think about negative things.   I have no interest in thinking about negative things which is a good thing.   I guess I am busy exploring the environment.   When you are in the astral just go with the flow.   Let whatever happens happen.   Do not think about negative things.   It is easy to create things with our thoughts.

Oh ok I guess I'll probably try that too if I have any such thoughts holding me back.. Thanks for the tip..

Formless-

In my opinion you are making progress but you may not recognize it or accept credit for what you have accomplished. Part of this conflict is that your progress is not equating with your expectations...that is okay, it is REALLY easy for our efforts to get de-railed at this early point, because we simply fail to recognize what IS progress in our experiences. There are dozens of distractions and mis-understandings that can happen at this point; I was de-railed by my own particular issues early on and I can often recognize it now by reading others' experiences.

Your 'weeks of setting your Intent' have actually resulted in your latest experience, once you relaxed and were not actually expecting anything. This is frequently how it works: we work, work, work...set our Intent multiple nights...get nothing...and then let it go out of frustration...and BANG it happens a day or two later...

In your case, you noticed some developing visuals...but lost it as Physical Reality (PR) issues intruded and some anxiety resulted.

I want you to realize this: Your Intent has worked! You are beginning the process of changing your Focus into the NP. It's just not quite happening in the manner your expectations have set; and this is a big issue that throws us off course early on; it demands the need for an agility of our consciousness to adjust to something new or unexpected.

Reading your earlier posts, I get the idea you are expecting the standard Etheric/RTZ exit where you float up and out of your body. That is a fine and valid form of OBE...but if you are getting visuals as opposed to  'Etheric' exit sensations, then you may be headed towards a Phasing type exit which will have little or no physical-like exit sensations; it will be a purely mental thing. So when you are at that crossroads, when you come to that Y in the road, only you can make that commitment...and this is where I say you need to GO WITH THE FLOW. Go with whatever direction the sensations take you; don't fight to force sensations that are not there. If you stay calm and let the visual develop and stabilize, at some point you can literally 'step' into it: that is Phasing.

The PR issues and the resulting anxiety have to be ignored. They are likely another 'test' to see just how committed you are to expanding your consciousness. This message should resonate within you...do you understand just how subtle this testing of your 'will' is? It starts right here, right now...and it is serious. It will not kill you or harm you, but it will push your limits beyond what you might expect, certainly what you understand.

This is another Intent/affirmation that you can add to your nightly address: I leave behind all Physical Reality issues for now and know that I am safe and protected as I venture into the Non-Physical worlds.

Also read up on this so you have a further idea of the sensations out there:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/exit_symptomssignposts-t46206.0.html

Hope that helps. It is baby-steps at times; nothing wrong with that.

You are closer to your goal than you may realize.

EV

Thanks for that details explanation EV. Motivating and reaffirming.. Baby steps.. Agreed, trying to label and measure the progress can be really tricky.. I will read more beginner journals and just keep doing what I' doing then post my experiences that I can recollect..

From my experiences my mind has to be relaxed.   If you have problems or anxiety on your mind ap usually does not work.   Try to relax your mind and forget your problems.    I know it can be hard to do.   If you do manage to get out you may find your ap experience may not be pleasant.

Yea its been a challenge though I haven't been trying much since I have decided to deal with the matters that were constantly on my mind that I ought to have done a long time ago.. Its helped me to relax easier.. I tried to phase a few times but snapped back to physical consciousness very quickly.

If I do manage to AP what is recommended to have a pleasant experience? Do I consciously try to think my way through or out or do I go with the flow?

Hello,

Earlier I happened to wake up a few times after falling asleep, into either a vibration-less shift in consciousness to an OBE/LD (Assuming they were OBEs to some degree), or one accompanied by a high pitched frequency and mild vibrations. I've been attempting to set my intent to do this for many weeks with almost no measurable success, but last night was a surprising experience which I set no earlier intentions on. Anyways, while I making the transition and started to notice scenes getting more vivid, my consciousness of certain matters in this physical reality that have been on my mind a lot started to kick in and 'pull me down'. Mild anxiety kicked in and I woke up realizing I can't do it with these thoughts about these matters running in my mind. Maybe I overreacted or was just tired I can't say, it all happened within a few seconds repeatedly.

Should I try to focus/relax my mind a certain way? Or not bother until I've dealt with the physical reality matters? I'm concerned because at some point I felt like these thoughts were manifesting into unpleasant creations during the transition..

Thanks for reading 

Thanks for replies guys.. I tried some effortless attempts and did have higher awareness but I'm still not sure about what level of awareness. I will try pure will methods and just flooding my mind with that intent.. I too think my child hood days were much more setup for this mentally. My approach now involves a healthier diet and lots of exercise and pro activity before the day ends

Thanks thats motivating to know . I will post a experience soon as I progress hopefully

Hi Nameless.. By 'these things' were you implying all of the above. Or parts of the post? I too wonder if I might have experiences them effortlessly.. But got caught up in labels and tons of information after which I started to doubt to my experiences..
I get that my experience is hard to label and comparing it with others' is even more tricky but after seeing common descriptions and I started to think that is a science with clear cut parameters to label something as an astral projection.. Something that I believe I'm not doing right..

Alright I'll try to be as effortless about it and see how it goes.

Thank you 

Hello,

Thanks for the reading this.. I'm new here and I read some posts about the FAQs, labelling experiences and many topics about peoples experiences..

I've been trying to intently astral project for the last year or so. From about age 11-12 I would wake up almost every 2 days with a strong earthquake like sensation grabbing my bed wondering why there's an earthquake in this area and later thought it was something within that wasn't right in my body.. I had no idea about OBEs then.. My teenage years and early adult years involved a lot of unhealthy habits and alcohol and cigarette/pot use to the point that getting a decent nights sleep was a treat. Anyways its been years since I quit those drugs and started to get interested in OBEs again.

I read the earthquake sensation is a symptom but although I've had moments of waking up after falling asleep and feeling the vibrations I never really 'got out'. I have some questions..

I stopped trying for a while and recently I've had some experiences some in which I gained awareness that I was in another place but it wasn't as clear as I would say this physical consciousness is.. Though it felt real and my reaction and interaction felt real though without a steady fow at times.. It was somewhat like a nightmare often but I couldn't eject until I completed my mission within it.. I had forgotten I had a physical consciousness I could switch to..until i woke up.. I had more similar experiences some more vivid, feeling somewhat real and random/impulsive like jumping to different parts of a video but the colors and detail were not as real as this physical experience now..

- Was any of this anything leading up to astral awareness? All those experiences happened with 0 noticeable symptoms.. I would gain awareness maybe a few hours after falling asleep, realizing I'm in another not very clear reality and just being and doing whatever in it to a certain degree as I desire (subconscious and conscious desires)

- Does the vividness change based on my level of awareness only? Does the brains shifts in states and emotions while I'm astral awareness have an effect on this vividness or does it happen independent of it? Or does physical reality exist only when I'm aware of it making my question absurd?

- If I am the experience.. How can I know what's a projection of my thought or an entity that existed regardless of my awareness to it? Is the astral a place that exists and has manifestations of other individual consciousness or is it a dimension where it is strictly my realm and a place of my projections? (Which include manifestations of individuals)

- I have been approaching this like I'm supposed to force my spirit or astral body out of my physical body.. Is that technique even worth pursuing because I am the experience and I just shift consciousness within without a sense of brute will.and intent?  I just felt like I was exerting myself like lifting a heavy weight..


I've read countless experiences about people 'getting out' and seeing their own body in bed, visiting friends, travelling to other parts of the universe etc..and I can't even remotely relate to those experiences.. Have you ever experienced such a thing in your reality or akasha? Am I way off in my technique and expectations?

Thanks the help