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#1
This was mentioned in a thread just recently and I thought I'd clear up some of the misconceptions.

There resides in us a powerful source of energy, nothing pales in comparison.  This energy can be beneficial or detrimental depending on who is harnessing it.  

On the one side you can have enlightenment, shift in consciousness, abundant physical and mental energy et cetera.

On the other side you can have insanity, psychotic break, hypertensive crisis et cetera.

There are far more effects to list but I have not the time to do so.

This energy has been described in a thousand different ways in many different practices over the years.  It is the Kundalini, sexual transmutation.

This energy is primarily fueled by sexual energy.  Sexual energy is built up during sex and arousal (and kinesthetic imagination for some).  Although the details are not exactly known (at least to me) sexual energy is expelled through semen (in men of course).  Although this may or may not be the semen itself, since certain thought patterns can expel this energy also.  These thought patterns could be generally categorized simply as negative thoughts (although I once highly disagreed with this, it can not be avoided).

Now this is where people are frequently confused, as a result of puberty (especially in men) often habits are created out of desire combined with a surge of hormones.  It is a mistake though to think of these habits as what is natural for the body, just as it is not natural to eat as much as possible because you have the desire to do so.  Keep in mind natural is relative.

Another confusion is often associated with celibacy and sexual energy.  The most basic purpose of celibacy (of what we are talking about here) is to harness sexual energy and to use for other purposes.  Obviously with normal sex you are expelling the energy, thus we want to stop that.  Yet as stated above, the energy is expelled mainly through semen.  Thus we are simply trying to avoid ejaculation, not the arousal.  Using either kinesthetic imagination or arousal is still of the utmost importance.  Otherwise this energy will simply evaporate out of misuse.

Yet another confusion is that the building up sexual energy will cause the Kundalini to rise.  This will very very rarely ever occur, if it was only that simple we would have widespread enlightenment.  This state is what many would call sexual tension, this only the beginning.

As previously mentioned sexual energy is the fuel, from that you can begin other practices to raise this energy.  From what I've found there are two general types of raisings (although there are thousands of variances in between).  The minor Kundalini and the major Kundalini.

The minor Kundalini is quite simple and can cause effects as subtle as a warm tingling sensation up the spine to a burning and extreme pressure.  The movement is dictated (usually) by you kinesthetic imagination.  The changes in consciousness are not profound, but still quite uplifting.

The major Kundalini is much more difficult and much more profound.  The physical effects are usually strong, fierce, uncontrollable and quick to raise (the after effects can last for some time).  When awoken properly it feels as if an arm (or serpent) is being forced up your spine while at the same time a electrical firestorm is going through your body.  As a result your body is forced into movements, you utter noises and you completely lose grip on reality.  The state that can be achieved from this deserves much more than any words can do justice.

The after effects are too long to describe here, but for better or worse you are not the person you were previous to the experience.  You can loose this quickly or slowly depending on how you act.

Nonetheless it is foolish to think that sexuality and spirituality do not go hand in hand.  It is the ultimate goal of many religions and nearly all occult practices (if you think otherwise you may want to rethink where you are going).  At no point in time should you eliminate sexual arousal, only ejaculation.  Without this key we cannot open the door to the mind.  Although you get a glimpse with certain psychedelics.  In general those who disagree with what is espoused above are those who will rarely achieve higher states of being.  Those who agree often achieve these states and can live with them.
#2
How do you get to the state for OOBEs from being awake?  There's something I'm just not getting.

I can Astral Project quite easily, so long as I'm in the state.  So far I can only get there through sleep.  As far as seperating is concerned, that's easy.  Yet if I try to do this after relaxing and such, I can begin to seperate but the body will move also.

What should I be doing to put the body asleep?
#3
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Kundalini
August 13, 2003, 16:05:42
quote:
Originally posted by veliki grizli

My brother went to yoga lessons and his teacher sad that nobody had kundalini experience for last 50 years. Is this the truth?   Whats your opinion?



There is a shread of truth to this.  Since the Kundalini is more like a gradiant as opposed to a  switch, few ever acheive the highest extent.

Most never get past minor Kundalini raisings.

Considering this though, I know of one individual that has raised to a very high level.  Sadly though I've lost contact with him and I'm not certain if he's alive, dead, or commited to a mad house.
#4
Pardon the double post
#5
quote:
Can this be something related to the Kundalini or the Heart Chakra?


Could very well be, then again it could be a medical situation.

The first thing we must understand about the Kundalini and chakras is that they are not foreign objects.  They are a part of you, just as your heart, skin and lungs.  Moreover just as every organ can be affected by any other so are the chakras and Kundalini.  Physical stimulation and thoughts can change the directional rotation of the chakras, which can cause problems with an active Kundalini.

The lump sensation you now feel could be simple a digestive problem.  You're esophagus, stomach et al can do some wildly strange things.  

On the other hand it could be an energy blockage.

My best advice is get it checked out, and clear out any and all emotional junk.
#6
quote:
Originally posted by Guhan
But I haven't read anything about any "pain" when Kundalini travels up.



Pain is subjective.  With most experiences with the Kundalini there is strong pressure, heat and electricity.  One could easily interperet this as pain.
#7
fallnangel77, the sensation you felt is what I describe as a Minor Kundalini.
#8
The Kundalini can be a double edged sword, I myself have encountered many problems that would scare to death many people.  But if you stop when you have troubles, you will never superseed them.

As for gurus, most are simply out there to grab your money.  Shaktipat does occur, but it is not the only path.  If it was, who was the first guru?
#9
That's simply an example of bad logic.
#10
quote:
Originally posted by Osiris

Greetings Roy,

Could you please post your technique or exercises, that you use to transform sexual energy. Or maybe there is a website that you would recommend?

Yours,

Osiris.



The basic technique for acheiving a minor Kundalini has already been described.  It is simply the action of moving energy up the spine.  The techniques above this I hesitate to spread since I do not graspe the full ramifications yet, even with myself.

Everything I learned was through trial and error, the minor Kundalini has given me quite a bit of insight.  If you truly desire it, you will figure it out.
#11
Tantrism is a very large topic, and what usually get's covered is tantric sex.  Most books are about how to do it all night long, which obviously is not tantra.
#12
You misread the above.
#13
quote:
Originally posted by joyrex
I presume that you have some or plenty of knowledge / experience on this subject. Could you perhaps evaluate the sivasakti link I posted? I'm a newbie on this 'field' and I'd like to know some reliable / working sources. So do you think the information on sivasakti site is usable, truthful, nonsense, even harmful, or something else?



The site has relatively good information, very simmilar to the works of Mantak Chia.  But these type of techniques take quite some time and practice to get the hang of it.  Even then, it is still a challenge.
#14
DAMNATIONS!
#15
I usualy try to influence people on not using the caps lock or shift key so profusely.
#16
Lucid dancer, as fallnangel77 pointed out, you can direct energy up the spine.  This is what I call the minor Kundalini mentioned above.  This is the first stepping stone to harnessing this power.
#17
I think you slightly missed the point.
#18
Currently there are quite a few misconceptions and misunderstandings in this thread.  From this people are, in my opinion, coming to the wrong conclusions.  I'd love to fill everyone in with the details, but I'm far too busy at the moment.  When I get a chance, I'll post everything from square one.
#19
I consulted my pendulum, and here's what he had to say in regards to the aforementioned questions.  My answers follow the original answers.

It seems to me that I'm showing a different path, then what was otherwise described.

Q: Does MAYATNIK have a philosophy?
A: Strong NO | YES
Q: Does the pendulum consistantly disagree with MAYATNIK in what he says?
A: NO | YES
Q: Does the pendulum EVER disagree with MAYATNIK in what he says about the pendulum?
A: Strong NO | NO
Q:Does the Pendulum operate through the guides' *computer* as Mayatnik says?
A: Strong YES | NO
Q: Does a guide talk to the Pendulum via the their Computer?
A: Strong YES | STRONG NO
Q: And sometimes a 'monitor'(guide) does this also. Is this correct?
A: YES | YES
Q: So, is their 'computer' being used like a kind of 'switchboard'?
A: YES | NO
Q: Does MAYATNIK recieve his communications by telepathy?
A: YES | YES
Q: Is RoyHarper correct in this?
A: NO | YES
Q: Is RoyHarper using the pendulum correctly?
A: Strong NO | STRONG YES
Q: Should I post this list of Q&A in response to RoyHarper?
A: YES | YES



Do you know who is communicating with RH through the pendulum? YES | YES
Is it a Pleiadian? NO | NO
Is he communicating with the *computer* ? YES | NO
Has the computer told RH it has a name? NO | NO
Did the computer tell RH he was communicating with someone who had a name? YES | YES
Is he communicating with a Pleiadian via the computer? NO | NO
Is anyone or anything using the computer to communicate with RH? NO | NO
Has RH been communicating with anything but the computer since he began using the pendulum? NO | YES
Is RH misusing the pendulum? NO | NO
Is he making mistakes with the pendulum? YES | NO
Is he following the method outlined by MAYATNIK? NO | YES
Is RH following the method outlined by MAYATNIK as RH understands it? NO | YES
Is RH aware he is not using the pendulum correctly? NO | NO
Is he aware he is not using it as outlined by MAYATNIK? NO | NO
Does RH believe he is using the pendulum as outlined by MAYATNIK? YES | YES
Would RH have better results with the pendulum if he used it as outlined by MAYATNIK? YES | STRONG YES
Are there aspects of MAYATNIK's guidelines that RH is not clear on? YES | NO
Should he re-read through MAYATNIK's posts? YES | NO
Will re-reading through MAYATNIK's posts give RH a better understanding of how the pendulum works? YES | NO
Is RH receiving false information from the pendulum? YES | NO
Is he receiving false information from the pendulum to show him he is using it incorrectly? YES | STRONG NO
Is the pendulum trying to teach RH how to use it correctly? YES | STRONG NO
If RH takes a different approach will he have more success with the pendulum? YES | YES
Is RH physically using the pendulum wrong in any way? NO | NO
Is RH asking wrong questions? NO | STRONG NO
Are any questions wrong questions to ask? NO | NO
Is RH taking the answers at face value? NO | NO
Should he be? NO | NO
Is RH's failing in not approaching the questions from different angles when he feels the answer is wrong? YES | NO
If RH changes his approach to the questions will he get more accurate responses? YES | YES
So, if RH feels the answer to a question is wrong he should definitely take a different approach to the question? Is this correct? YES | NO
Is this what the pendulum is trying to show RH by giving him 'false' information? YES | NO MOVEMENT
Will this series of Q+A help RH and others to get a better understanding of how the pendulum works? YES | SEARCHING STRONG YES
#20
Let me clear this up just so no one else misunderstands.

Sexual Transmutation = Kundalini
Sexual Tension != Kundalini
Ki != Kundalini

I am talking about a force that is quite profound, that I have direct experience with.  I'm sorry to say, but no other 'energy' compares.
#21
That was the answer to the question...

You essentially have two ways to use sexual energy, through ejaculation or transmutation.

So if you are doing neither your body will compensate by either uncounciously expelling semen, or shuting down your sex drive all togther.

Yet if that energy is cultivated up the spine, you will not experience the above effects.
#22
quote:
Originally posted by pmlonline
What's the solution?  


The Kundalini/Sexual Transmutation.   It's described many different ways in many different practices, but it's essentially the same process.  Energy up the spine to the brain.  Without this celibacy is quite useless (relatively speaking of course).
#23
For men, it all comes down to whether you ejaculated or not.  This is what will drain you, although the clear lubricant that is often expelled will not.
#24
Parmenion, that's quite an interesting response.

Since I'm obviously misusing the above stated method, could you troubleshoot with your pendulum what I'm specificaly doing wrong.  I'm sure it would be great help to not only myself, but also others on this board.

Also, whomever I'm speaking to (assuming I was speaking correctly) claims to have a name.  Moreover, he can give answers that are in accordance with my thoughs but also others that are not.
#25
quote:
Originally posted by beavis

Masturbation uses just as much energy as sex. There are better things to give up than those 2. Lots of things consume your energy.
Fun increases your energy. Sex could pay for itsself.



The energy we are speaking of is much more profound than what you are reffering to (calories).  Moreover, ejaculation is the main method for expelling this energy.