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  There was two ways I learned to stop chasing the scenes with my actual eyes. The first was by turning my eyes upwards when I first began a attempt. The second was by using a mental affirmation that said "By my act of will, I release my focus over my physical body". I then experienced everything as a point of consciousness.

While doing step 2 in my Doorway technique, which is to disassociate myself from my physical body, while enabling my etheric one, I focus on my 3rd eye location. As soon as I do, I feel a actual switch in the eye I am now using. It's the first time in my technique that I actually experience a "shift" in consciousness. It happens each and every time I use that disassociating step as well.

Thanks for the reassurance! I'll use your affirmation next time and see how that works.

I noticed that feeling of switching eyes once I was very deeply relaxed! Now that I think about it, it did feel like it was in my 3rd eye location. Interesting -- I'll focus on that as well.

Thanks to EV and you for your advice! Will see how it goes.

Thanks for the detailed response! It describes what I'm dealing with quite accurately.

A few times, I have been successful in keeping my eyes still, only to have the excitement of seeing everything clearly shock me out of it. There's such a fine degree of mental control required.

Ah well, back to practicing. 

Hi everyone,

Recently, I began practicing astral projection again, and I decided to use Xanth's noticing method.

Once I'm in a very relaxed/meditative state, I will start to see an image of a place (like my living room or my front yard). It won't be perfectly clear, but it will feel more real and tangible than if I had just imagined the place while I was fully conscious.

(In other words, I can see the image, but I can also see the blackness behind my physical eyelids.)

If I maintain an "air of curiosity", I can pretend that I'm in the environment and start noticing more details within it (this sort of just starts happening by itself, almost feels like a lucid dream, but I know I'm still awake).

As I do this, the environment becomes clearer and more tangible to me. Soon after, the environment becomes so clear that it feels as real as "real life" (the physical world), and I feel like I'm almost in the environment I pictured.

So far so good, right? Unfortunately, whenever I get to this stage, my physical eyes will inevitably move and try to look at what I see in my mind's eye. This snaps my awareness back to my physical body, ending my foray into the astral world.  

Am I really close to phasing to the astral?

I would appreciate some advice on how to proceed. I feel that I just need to keep doing what I'm doing until I learn to suppress the involuntary movement of my eyes.

Also, didn't Frank Kepple mention having this same problem in some of his posts?

Thank you!

Thanks for the advice guys. I'll do what you say and see what happens. I'm gonna do this no matter what! 

Hi everyone,

I've been experimenting with astral projection for the past few months, and I believe that I have successfully projected several times.

Sometimes, I wake up early in the morning in a state of sleep paralysis. When this happens, I simply focus on the intention of leaving my physical body, and I feel my astral body effortlessly slide out from my physical body through my head, sort of like a snake unsheathing itself from its old skin.

Then, I either feel myself go through the wall behind my bed or float down onto the floor beside my bed.

However, every time this happens, I can't see anything. On my latest attempt, I kept shouting "Clarity now!" in my mind, and I willed myself to see, but with no luck.

On a previous attempt, I tried opening my eyes, but I ended up opening my physical body's eyes instead, causing me to move back to my physical body.

(The mind-split effect feels very interesting by the way, like being able to control two bodies at once.)

Not being able to see anything kind of frustrates me and causes me to give up once I'm out.

I would greatly appreciate any suggestions on how to gain my astral sight. Does anyone know why this happens?

Thank you.