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#1
Tiny, I too noticed more of a negative force recently.
but as Psilibus said, I don't let it get me down, I just noticed it as a sort of bumpy thing to get over on my way to feeling happy due to my Will. I just view emotoins as choices. I choose to be happy. yes its a little harder these days because of so many rude negative people, but on the up side it feels like those that 'get it' are 'getting it' more so its balancing better.
i am happy that there seem to be more spiritually minded people about these days.
but i wonder what this increase in negativity comes from.
are you in the USA? I wonder if this is global?
Maybe it has something to do with praeternatural intelligences, HAARP, or maybe its just a natural electromagnetic flux in the Earth.
who knows..stay positive :)
#2
I find it fascinating that recently, like the past 2 or 3 weeks only people are having astral projections for the first time all over the place.
People that have been trying for years, and people that arent even trying are having htem.I  wonder why this is all of a sudden.
My personal experience was after trying for about 2 yrs to AP or about 1 yr of serious weekly practice and only having partial separation, or full separation but being blind,
the last week in April I finally had a perfect one with full tactile and sight etc.
The funny thing about it is like a lot of people here I wasnt trying that day. It must have been subconscious.
What happened was I lay back after reading around 7pm on the bed to just rest my eyse for a while.
As I felt myself fall asleep right before I would have lost awareness I felt my energy body shifting or wobbling back and forth in a left to right to left etc motion. It started by itself and once I noticed it I pushed it harder and then suddenly found myself outside my body standing up. It was awesome. Iwas able to hold it for about 5 minutes of moving around in the room.
But ever since then I cant do it again, at least not yet :(
Its like maybe i am trying too hard. I remember that I did it when I just let go, so when I try that way too I Just fall asleep.
Such a hard balance@!
BUt im glad i finally had my first real one!
i wonder why everyone else is suddenly too? but im happy , as long as I can do it again soon.
#3
its my opinion due to my own experience that something as simple as both purposely remembering your dreams in the morning, and also practising astral projection, especially in the beginning using the hemisync tapes, the silent practice and the hemisync waves seem to open up your third eye gradually and naturally. so those two things helped me.

i say that i feel my third eye is activated simply because i have finally been able to astral project, and since then, and since i practised more, i get way more insights or visions during the day. not day dreams but intuitions and inner films. hard to explain. but i know they are related. also i have more of a vibe that i get from people that is good or  bad.

also quartz meditation seems to help.
#4
thanks guys very funny :) and sad too i feel your annoyance ;)
Problem with cats is as you probably know if you lock them out they become even more annoying because they can't stand closed doors and just stand there miawing at it until you open up. hmm what to do..

i think that since both your cat and mine moved only when we were starting to vibrate and leave maybe these particular motions feel bad to cats? or maybe they can 'see' the change in the astral?
i wonder how it relates to cats as familiars in magic.
feel free to share your other experiences with animals everyone ^^
#5
this is the first time it has happened but i am quite annoyed by it.
I had my first fully successful OBE or astral projection about 2 weeks ago, where i had full sight, sound,and tactile. So that made me very happy.
Now that I know what to look for and feel, I have been practising more and been very close each time I do it but I have been foiled! Why? my cat!
The first time i projected she was there and didn't do anything.
But each time and in particular last night, every time i would get the vibrations to start going out, uncannily, she would stand up and rub against my arm as i lay there , which needless to say snapped me out of it.

This happened not once or twice but three times! So essentially she seemed to know when i was about to leave and would purposely distract me. It was very aggravating. So she made me waste 2 hours which would have been successful in like 30 mins..
This seems to speak to me of cats having some kind of sixth sense or natural vision in the astral. what do you guys think?
Any other animal or cat stories?
Next time i am locking her out of the room lol.
Its like she didnt want me to go aww. >:(

#6
thanks so much mr personalreality. you are very helpful :) thanks for contributing to my magical crowley thread too. i found his use of a coin in projection, in his mouth was probably for sympathetic magic. that is gold is related to solar which is related to projection in his mind. also gold is a good conductor, as is copper. but its probably not necessary or too helpful for most people.
#7
thanks! once i figure out why they are used, will it explain itself how to use these for astral projection? like areas to place or techniques?
#8
hi kurt
i have been reading up on your site a bit and i had some questions i hoped you could answer.
i have some quartz crystals i was able to get at a good price, and most of them are either double crystals joined and they each have a single terminating point , or they are groups of 2 and a half. anyway, what are the benefits of wrapping crystals in coils as you have done?
when you do that, to get whatever these benefits are, do you also have to congeal them inside that resin i see on your site ? why the metal shavings in them too? what kind of meditations and astral projections will crystals help with? I am trying to raise my energy through my chakras more efficiently, to help project but also to help clear my energy and help my well-being and evolution. any help you can give would be great. I did daoist taichi/yoga in the past which used qi gong meditation to raise our energy through the chakras, i just figure with all these technologies nowadays with scalar things, coils, and crystals it will be more effective and time efficient to learn how to incorporate these materials and technologies into my practice. thanks in advance for the help!
sahgwa
#9
i think its amazing that people that claim to be so energetically or spiritually evolved do not realise the hypocrisy in labelling a whole race evil based on information which they cant prove which probably is manufactured by their subconscious fears.
for example it is very commonly reported and seen after study of visitor encounters that these experiences are moulded by our expectations.
if you cant get over your subconscious fear of them and the unknown they will playfully pretend to be evil or your perception will make it so even though they could be as nice as your best firend if you just opened up your perception and got rid of your fear and expectation.
reality and especially the so called greys or visitors seem to fit themselves to our expectations not the other way around.
no one really can say 100% this is so any more than you can say they are all a hive mind. but it makes more sense than some zealous xenophobic labelling based on sci fi propositions.
#10
furthermore the majority of horror stories about aliens and gray abduction come from government dis information sources. intelligent people know that it is the governments best interest to create fear of aliens due to the power and control it gives the government.

it in essence gives them an excuse for existing after disclosure. furthermore it hides the fact that they know little if nothing more than the average person about why They are here. they need the illusion of control just as much as the actual control.

where would our institutions be if we all became self aware spiritually evolved beings that could travel the cosmos in our astral bodies and meeting other intelligences on our own without fear? obsolete obviously.
#11
as an aside i dont think classifying a whole race or species of beings as good or evil is a good idea. i mean think realistically and logically, when have you found ANY group of sentient beings that were all of one thing? Never.  just like there are good and bad humans, good and bad dogs, and good and bad bacteria, there are good and bad 'grays' as you say. i dont think its fair or accurate to say they are all evil and all think they are gods.
im sure there are good ones and bad, but overall they wouldnt be here behind the scenes if they werent interested in helping us.
the so called 'typical abduction' scenario is far from typical and if you research most peoples experiences are far nicer or neutral.
furthermore they realise the only way we grow as beings and humans is to be pushed and helped to evolve through trials of a life changing calibre. if they just came and were nice and gave everything we would never change or grow. they are prodding us out of our paradigm which is obviously painful but belies good intentions as it leaves experiencers with more spritiual knowledge, self esteem, and love for their fellow man and other life. humans have always resisted evolving as it is painful to better yourself, but that doesnt mean the grays are evil.

i say some have selfish reasons and are bad apples and the majority are here to help just like anyone else. just like in armies around the world you have bad apples who delight in torture and rape and the majority of good soldiers who have integrity.
would a so called evil race really sit around a helpless planet like earth for over a century without enslaving us or destroying us? i dont think so.
#12
For what its worth I too have been doing 'energy body training' via qi gong, meditation, and ceremonial magic.  i think i can take care of myself. if you dont want to share that's fine but i think its kind of patronising. I would love to know that we as a human race were sharing our advances instead of hoarding them.
#13
Is there any way to get diagrams of that there portable AP device?
or schematics?
i would like to build one myself to help me project.
#14
HI all
I have been training trying and practising to astral project for years now.
I have been able to get half out in one case and then fully out only once but i was blind and couldnt move then i was back in.
My main question and thing I'd like to discuss is the idea of astral projection otherwise known as the body of light, or assuming god form in magical practice. Mainly western ceremonial magic and occultism.
The background to my question is, the idea of attention and visualisation/imagination is of couse very key to atsral projection, but when one reads about people astral journeying in magical records they often sound like mere imaginings. Of course it is necessary to imagine before your project to get the setting right and build up the proper senses and setting, but is there truly a difference between astral projecting and creative visualisation/imaging? Or is one merely imagining in their minds eye the whole time?
From my personal experience it feels as if i am truly leaving my body, albeit i was unable to go anywhere or see or be out for more than a few seconds.  But in reading material such as the abuldiz working with aleister crowley and his seer/scarlet woman mary d'este where she describes seeing an old wizard, in a forest, and under a palm tree etc, and receiving messages through the 'excitation of drink and sex' i am at a loss to see if this happened on the astral, as magic is supposed to affect this to work, how one could prove it is different from imaginings. similarly in the book magic in theory and practice crowley says of one method of invocation: "The first method concerns the so-called astral body.  The Magician should practise the formation of this body as recommended in Liber O, and learn to rise on the planes according to the instruction given in the same book, though limiting his "rising" to the particular symbol whose God he wishes to invoke. "  when you read the instructions in liber o it says "Let him imagine his own figure as enveloping his physical body, or standing near to and in front of him. 3. let him then transfer the seat of his consciousness to that imagined figure, so that it may seem to him that he is seeing with its eyes, and hearing with its ears. This will usually be the great difficulty of the operation. "
now in hindsight this sounds very similar to the monroe techniques and many others, so maybe it is real astral projection.but when one reads many magical records the people are not lying or relaxing but sitting or standing in 'god forms/poses' and thus i fail to see how they could be projecting, and their records sound similar to imaginings.

so is magical projection the same? any ideas or comments would be very enlightening.
#15
You should post more on your blog about your adventures. I was very entertained.  Do you have any tips for people trying to project who have only had slight success? Is it bad to over try or over think about this? I found that I was able to get half out tactilely, and then fully out where it felt like i was standing in front of my body based on sense but i was blind. I could feel my new body standing there and felt as if i was there standing but i was really lying down listening to Monroe's astral journeys wave CDs. But i couldn't see anything:( i wonder if my third eye is needing work or why it was just black.
and since then i have tried using the same methods with relaxation and the tactile visualisation or feeling myself into a new position but it isn't working. any tips anyone? I find i can get fully relaxed, and then stop feeling my body, but i have a hard time getting the vibrations to start, and if htey do start, having a hard time making them stay or fill more than just a small part like my hands and arms. Then thats it after an hour just relaxation, numbness and vibration but i cant get out or past that. Do i need to go deeper into relaxation somehow? Usually if i try to relax past that i just fall asleep. hmm

and have you had any new experiences with your machine?
#16
I (and I am sure the majority of people on this forum and in the world interested in AP) would love for you to record some of your adventures.  Especially with other beings and aliens. You should let me know where I can read some of your happenings with this device, it is fascinating!
Eagerly waiting
Chris
#17
regardless of bismuth being a crystal, you have lumps of it , and there are also coins made of bismuth for sale on ebay, hence my query above.  if you could answer it thatd be great.
thanks!
#18
Thanks for the tip.  So say I get a bismuth sample, in a coin or a lump.  Besides the tongue as a sensitive point what else can one do with said sample to aid astral projection? Does holding it in the palm or under a pillow help? like with crystals?
thanks again. good luck with your device and keep us all posted.its fascinating.
#19
Hi Kurt
this is fascinating. I found it while searching for 'gold' and 'astral projection' . The reason is I read that A. Crowley used a gold coin ni his mouth to help induce astral projection.  My main question is (very impt to me thanks :) is gold necessary for this?  Would other coins work as well? Please let me know why this would or wouldn't work and if gold is necessary.  I tried it with a pound coin which is mostly copper and it seemed to cause more energy or vibration but I'd like to know if it was a placebo.  Please PM me or email thanks!
Chris
#20
thanks so much everyone for your help!
i havent gotten to AP since then, and not practice as much either due to work.  when ive tried since then i have fallen asleep half the times. also i have gotten a little better without the CD, so thats good. i feel the tingles and vibes without the cd bvut i havent been able to leave my body yet again. practice practice practice! thanks again!
#21
thanks to everyone for your tips! i havent been able to practice much since then cuz of tiredness (falling asleep by accident) or work. but im going to try again today. appreciate your help!
#22
HI all
I just joined today so I can help others and get some help myself in astral projection.
After one year of intense practice and about a total time in my life of 2 years practicing i finally had my first astral projection on Monday the 11th of May! At around 10 or 11 pm I finally felt my body go numb and then my energy body tingled and my breathing deepened and I felt a new body take form and I was outside my body! The only downside was I couldn't see. It was all black with maybe some spots. This lasted about 3 or 4 minutes, and I felt like I was standing although I was physically lying on the floor.  It was great. I'm glad I finally got it!
My first question is although I have been trying to recreate the experience, the past 3 and a half days in my tries I don't get as close and I haven't been able to leave since then. So do you think pain or sports injuries could inhibit projection? When I projected I was in good shape and totally relaxed.  Then on Wednesday I went on a killer hike and now my legs and some parts of my arms are super tense and almost pulled- very sore.  Could this stop me from projecting?  Maybe I have to wait until I heal so the tension goes away? The other question is although I have been doing what I did on Monday I haven't been able to get as relaxed, so after your first success did anyone else have a hard time getting to their second projection due to a more heightened sense of expectation or excitement? Also how long was it between your first and second? And last but not least how did YOU open your astral eyes?
I almost forget to mention a very important point.  When I successfully projected I was using Robert Monroe's astral journey or astral voyage CD with the last disc.  This had no vocal commands just some white noise with binaural beats or hemi sync interlaid.  When the CD ran out I stopped projecting.  So I hope I am not always going to be reliant on the CDs?
Thanks so much for your time reading this long post. And since I have no idea the difference between AP and OBE I will post this in both....hopefully that's not a problem
thanks in advance!
#23
HI all
I just joined today so I can help others and get some help myself in astral projection.
After one year of intense practice and about a total time in my life of 2 years practicing i finally had my first astral projection on Monday the 11th of May! At around 10 or 11 pm I finally felt my body go numb and then my energy body tingled and my breathing deepened and I felt a new body take form and I was outside my body! The only downside was I couldn't see. It was all black with maybe some spots. This lasted about 3 or 4 minutes, and I felt like I was standing although I was physically lying on the floor.  It was great. I'm glad I finally got it!
My first question is although I have been trying to recreate the experience, the past 3 and a half days in my tries I don't get as close and I haven't been able to leave since then. So do you think pain or sports injuries could inhibit projection? When I projected I was in good shape and totally relaxed.  Then on Wednesday I went on a killer hike and now my legs and some parts of my arms are super tense and almost pulled- very sore.  Could this stop me from projecting?  Maybe I have to wait until I heal so the tension goes away? The other question is although I have been doing what I did on Monday I haven't been able to get as relaxed, so after your first success did anyone else have a hard time getting to their second projection due to a more heightened sense of expectation or excitement? Also how long was it between your first and second? And last but not least how did YOU open your astral eyes?
I almost forget to mention a very important point.  When I successfully projected I was using Robert Monroe's astral journey or astral voyage CD with the last disc.  This had no vocal commands just some white noise with binaural beats or hemi sync interlaid.  When the CD ran out I stopped projecting.  So I hope I am not always going to be reliant on the CDs?
Thanks so much for your time reading this long post. And since I have no idea the difference between AP and OBE I will post this in both....hopefully that's not a problem
thanks in advance!
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