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Messages - Klowsy

#1
When you are in a trance , and your body is asleep, means you can't feel your body right? Like it's only your mind?  Cause I can only get to the point where my body feels very numb, or weird, then I stay at that point and can't get any further.

While im stuck at this point, my eyelids also start to flutter several times with short breaks, I try to keep my eyes closed while the eyelids flutter continuosly, and some weak colors would appear when my eyelids flutter. I guess this is not a trance, as you would not feel your body in one? Is this anywhere near a trance at all? Im having a hard time entering one  :|

#2
Could anyone confirm that the feeling I described in my previous post is the start of the trance state?  :?

And thanks Stookie, will read  :-)

Some more questions if anyone wants to help:
When is the best time to enter trance, I've tryed in the morning after I wake up, but that seems to take forever (up to 1 hour, then I give up), haven't had any success with it yet. Is it easier to enter trance later on the day?

#3
The few times I've tryed to enter a trance (and failed), it was like it didn't happen much until one point, where it just says boom and you feel like sinking down or something, this is where I always loose it - is this the start of trance? If it is, you will not be paralysed right away? - as then this is the start of a light trance - and not a deep one?

#4
But you mentioned that you can get body paralysis while in a trance, does it break when you open your eyes then, like the hallucinations wud go away?  Cause when I was in SP, it didn't really help to open your eyes  :|

and yeah, scientists are great, it's good that they always try to find short words that are easy to remember  :roll:
#5
So it's not like in SP, that when you open your eyes you can still be paralysed and have visionary hallucinations while paralysed and with eyes open? Like seeing a demon sitting on your chair on the other side of the room?

Thanks for answering again  :-)
#6
If you remain with your eyes closed tho? Can you still get visionary hallucinations, or is it only when you open your eyes and look around?

And also, the trance state is very good for hypnosis, I guess the trance we are talking about (induced by meditating) is also a hypnotic trance, and that means we are very open to suggestions. Could you then suggest to yourself that you are very relaxed and calm, or suggest t yourself that you see yourself on a beach or whatever calming you know, do you know if that could work and if you could avoid a scary experience that way?

thanks in advance  :-)
#7
Well my goal is to get in a trance, so I want to enter one, as I've heard it is a very good and relaxing experience. The only thing I wanna avoid, is to hallucinate scary things.
I've got some more questions for you that are experienced with trance :

While in one, can you to some degree control what you see/hear etc?  Example: If you wud try to visualize a green cat, wud u see it? Or is it random hallucinations that you don't control.
And if you get a trance and body paralysis, what do you need to do to break the paralysis and get out of trance, I don't wanna get stuck in one.

Thanks again for answers, this forum is great  :-)
#8
When you say that we are awake and in control while in trance, you mean that you can control any hallucinations for example? So u dnt see scary things? thx for all help so far ppl!
#9
So if you try to meditate your way to body asleep, mind awake state, you should rather be in a trance and be in control than in SP?
#10
Im still a bit confused by it. If you want to induce the SP state, its nearly the same or the same technique as you induce a trance state, this bothers me, as I really can't tell which one I'll enter. Is there no way to avoid entering SP, and going into a trance instead?

Thanks for the answer btw, cleared some things up
#11
Welcome to Astral Chat! / SP and Trance?
May 24, 2009, 16:49:26
Im sorry if it's posted in the wrong section, didn't really know where to post this.

I've been trying to get into a trance for a while now, but I really have troubles with getting in one. I have some questions that I have tryed to get an answer to for a long time. Im confused about trance, and sp. I've been in SP a couple of times, and I totally hate that, its just freaking me out, it has almost always been a bad or scary experience where I can't control whats happening.  Anyway, Im trying to get into a trance, because I've heard it is a nice experience and relaxing too. The fear of entering SP is holding me back. So my questions are:

1.  Is trance and SP the same thing? From what I've red trance should be relaxing and pleasant, and when I had what was probably SP, it wasn't any good experience at all, I couldn't control anything happening.

2. If trance and SP isn't the same thing, how can you enter a trance instead of sleep paralysis? How can you know that it is a trance you are entering and not SP?

Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance  :-)