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(hoo... don't mind the title, its just to look nice, i didnt go anywhere in this possible (small) projection)

hello

heres the report of the projection i "almost" had last night:

i was sleeping and dreaming that i was falling down from some stairs, but i was over a chair, i remember that the dream was very "real" i could hear everything and think very clear. i started to think that that was stupid... what the hell was i doing with a chair in the stairs (by the way, the stairs are from a public place that i went last day) so i got lucid... and everything i start to know that i am dreaming, i get a very strong feeling of waking up! i try not to, but its hard. its like if i only have some seconds to dream and then wake up, so what i try to do is talk to people that are in my dream and tell them (like making fun of them) that this is a dream (oh what a ordinary thing to do) usually they say nothing and look at me like if i was stupid, then i try to do something strange before i wake up, so i decided to jump the stairs and see if i could fly instead of falling, but in the moment i try to do something that i can't do (in this case flying) its like if i enter another dimension!! i start to hear noises, nothing that i can identify!!! just sounds like wind, no voices! lots of vibrations (you know them) but the thing that i feel the most is "that" strong force pulling me!!! i can't do anything, it wants me to go there...
to go where? what happened in that day (24 hours ago) was that then, the dream stoped, i got that sensation things go black for a second and then i see myself in my room, in my bed just like i was sleeping... but let me tell you what happens, im there... my body is V-E-R-Y hard to move, i can't move, just raise my arm with all my strength, maybe im paralysed... the sounds... as before i cant really hear anything that i could tell you, its like a forest in the night, i hear lots of things but its not lots of voices or lots of explosions, nothing that i can tell you, the only thing that i could identify is like wind... lots of wind, for example when you put your head out of your car window.
now looking around... here i have to tell you something, i don't want to! i just wish i could wake up, i try to close my eyes... but i can saw something... as always nothing really concrete, notice that i was with my eyes faced to the wall and the roof! so all i saw was some colors, like if my wall (wich is all white) was painted, some light, not a white light! just black, the roof also had some strange red spots... its hard to describe, i think i could see some papers in the walls.
i really don't want to look around, sorry im afraid of what i could see.

there was a big feeling of being alone there! no voices, could't see anyone... but its not because of that, theres just that feeling.
i try to do everything to wake up... and when i do wake up... i can still feel that force which is very strong pulling me... to sleep? to dream? to project? hooo i just try to escape from it! when i wake up i must move around or do something, if i just close my eyes i will feel that again and its like if i have a way a passage to walk, and like if it there was a way wich i must follow.

notice that when i started to wake up my body was in the normal position that i was sleeping, this means that when i found myself in my room it wasnt a false awakening... i was there... in another dimension? out of my body?

you are the people that know about this, what do you think?

thanks!

hello

sorry for the "stupid" subject title but thats just what i feel! you know... having a astral projection but the truth is that it was all a dream?

okay, i was sleeping, dreaming... then i felt like waking up... vibrations slow movement, i started to move my hand\arm !!VERY!! SLOWLY (like if it didn't move) (normal when you project i think) and i started to notice that i could feel my arm in a place where it wasn't, i had my eyes open so i could see my arm a little more to the right but i felt it in the left side... so i was thinking hmmm this must be my astral body that im feeling, so i tried to "walk around" and what i did was see if my body could cross the wall, my finger did pass it and i got a warm feeling in that area, at that time i was sure i was projection.. well the bad part is that after doing that i ended the astral projection got up and normally walked around my room... and... that was a dream (the projection and after that waking open and walk around my room), i then waked up. so, the astral projection was a dream, great.

hehe thats it, frustrating but no problem.

hail

after wmy last experience ( http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5159 ) i didn't read anything or learn anything else... i still don't believe that what i had was something related to astral, no obe, nothing... maybe sleep paralysis.
anyway im back because today i also did something strange right after waking up i was in my bed thinking about a friend, a normal friend wich i don't see for a long time, hes like 333km's away. well... i was having fun and thinking that if i concentrate i could remove view hehehe, just having fun... anyway i didn't notice if i had my eyes opened but suddenly i had something wich i could call a vision... but all i saw was a television, turned off... nothing else, i mean i didn't notice what was around, only that big television, the thing is that in front of my bed (not really in front) is a television, but not so big and a bit difrent (i can't really say how it looked like, i saw i in 0,1 seconds) right when i saw that i tried to do something wich i think was going back to where i was... in my bed thinking, but when i got back to my bed i was again with the same strange things from my other post "my experience" but this time if i looked up i saw a big black square over me... it was just black and not perfect (i mean... it was declined (i hope this is the right word) in one of the sides, it was just black, no lines, no looking like a void... but again i just looked at it for 0,001 seconds, there was something wich i also saw, but this i could be wrong because i saw it like in 0,0001 seconds VERY small red balls, dots, points in the air... hehe (i hope you get the idea that everything was very fast, maybe because i was doing everything i could to return and control my body).
anyway, i am posting this because i would like to know what is it that i am experiencing, sometimes i wake up... stay a little in bed and experience those sensations of not being able to move the body, and i didn't read or pratice any meditation...

farewell

hail

It was arond 15:00 when i went to bed an tried to relax... yes i tried to project or something!... i just close my yes relax and don't move, nothing more, i try to think in nothing.
After some time, lets say at most 30 minutes of nothing and just being there layed down i think i choosed the sleep hehe, i have a kind of sleep problem... i take lots of time to fall asleep like two haurs, so got to make good use of my relaxion... from 15:30 to 16:30 i say i had a normal light sleep, really didn't dream anything, maybe i didn't even sleep because i moved from one place to other...
Ok now here comes what hapned! i was not in a relaxion possition, but i also wasnt under any thing_that_you_use_over_your_body_in_your_bed(got to learn more english )i was just with my head over a "pillow" and in the spoon position (i just remember this name from the movie)... i don't know what came before or other smaller sensations, (i THINK i wanst even relaxed) i was just there because my head hurts... MAYBE i tried to wake up before what hapned... i just remember the main effect... i couldn't move my body, and there REALLY were a lot of vibrations IN MY HEAD! OMG (lol)... how can i describe... i think i can its easy, when you travel in a car and put your head outside the window and get all, i think it was exactly that! because i could year, i say wind. Let me end the talk about vibrations... when i heard about them in obe i was thinking that they were all over the body and they were from muscles shaking and that... with me it was exactly as like i said, put your head outside the window of a car at a high speed, the sound was, i would say, the same as the wind. Yes, i said sound! i didnt year any voice or whatever, just the sound, of... going to somewhere at a very fast speed, you hear the wind passing by you. Ok i already said 3 things, couldn't move my body! vibrations only at head for what i remember not "internal" more like if there was something around it, and the sound pure wind i think. Now im going to tell you what i think it is the most "nice" fact, because this could have been a dream or whatever... my eyes! the first thing i tried to do was to open my eyes and see if i was dreaming, if i would wake up, or say... see me astral projection... i could only open my eyes lets say 1/5 this means i was really in a hard FIGHT(?) to open them.... and what i saw ? my "normal vision" what i would saw if i had my eyes open, don't forget there really was a giant force trying to make me close the eyes, but i dont want to (will explain later)... now this got me confused why did i saw my normal vision, i tryied to move the body but really couldn't the feeling was like if someone gave me a drug wich wouldnt let my body movie.
Ok now lets see... the feeling! maybe i already said but it was like if i was traveling, felt like if my body was moving, i say fall into a void, i say this because of the feeling at the head and the force to close my eyes and not to move my body, like if something was taking me to a place wich i wanted to go but i had to have some drugs (wich cause the effects) to go there.
The first thing that i tried to do was to wake up because i didnt believe 7% that was real... i taught it was a dream and waking up it would end... but things changed when i saw my normal vision and knew i coulnd't move my body. I have just tried to relax and project around AT MOST seven times... what could this have been ?
Of course i don't know the time of this all... i would say some seconds, there really was a fight between me and other big force, and i almost lost because i could't do anything... when i noticed that i could open my eyes i tried to keep them open (dont forget i could only open 1/5(you understand)) and tried to keep them open wich was very hard! how it ended ? there was a feeling of "looking for the controls of your body" hehe like if there was something there pushing me and i would have to keep the eyes open until it goes away.
I didn't read much! no books, just somethings...
Thats all i don't pratice any astral think, or meditation, i can't see auras or feel any of those energys from the body... so this is my first experience with no strange things before in dreams like lucid ,etc.

farewell

it wasn't me.

sorry

shame on you!

The Gaffer, everyone else: where did you learn and find guides to meditate? thanks

"I have a silly fear I'll get "stuck" there and won't be able to wake up."

that can never happen

not really my friend! because of me... stupid fear, it could have been a real projection, but i just make my self wake up.

once i saw like "the end of the world in my room"... when i couldn't move, only look around and what i saw was my room with the objects that i have there (even the bed where i was) in another space, like if i moved some of my furniture. i saw lots of holes in the walls, lots of light, and many sounds, like a war.

no, sorry, but he SAID he went there... we don't even know if it is real... please think for yourself.

anyone also gets vibrations like me when i have sleep paralysis

hello and welcome

the question is, was that your first time?
it could have been

hello

welcome to the astral pulse!

i have lots of sleep paralysis... with vibrations! i don't expect them so i normally try to move and wake up... ohh i get them like when i am sleeping... so out of nothing i "wake up" vibrations are really high i don't find my self paralysed for some time, it really comes hard and strong right when i can open my eyes i get the vibrations, can't move, etc...

in fact i never really tried to project, errr i wanted to sleep, hehe.

welcome to the astral pulse!

if you want to try that, use the free one: AP - Abyss.alpha-delta.192kbps.mp3

sorry, i never tried it and don't know anyone who does.

many guides say that the best time is right after you wake up.

hmm, could anyone explain that triangle method?

kiauma: i don't think thats anything related to the astral hehe

what do you mean?

"dont use yahoo"

astral plain or astral plane?

http://www.astralpulse.com/books/robert/astraldynamics.htm
"an illustration from astral dynamics showing internal structures of astral planes."

stay calm.

hoo sorry, this was funny "then i asked him if he was a. crowley. He didn't answer. and then i asked of he was myself, but no answer"

first let me tell you that lots of people see things when they experience "sleep paralysis"

i could post lots of links to websites that explain that, but please, take your time, here you will find everything: http://www.google.pt/search?hl=pt-PT&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22sleep+paralysis%22&btnG=Pesquisar&meta=

"there have also been reports of people "fighting" dream assailants, and sadly when they "come to" or awaken, they find out they have hurt or even killed their housemate or spouse. this is rare."

im sorry if i wasted your time and if you think that it wasn't sleep paralysis but something bigger.

oh cool! never been there hehe, hope that someone else knows something about this.

buddhist music.

you could also talk about "psychedelic" music (what people like to call "trance" (but in my opinion thats wrong))

there is a very known band caled "astral projection"
there are songs called "astral flight" (and one of my favorite song is called "thing" hehehe)

but the conversation can get bigger if you want to talk about this style of music hehe.
well im going to play one of those discs, "goa head 13" (where you can find the songs "astral flight" "thing".)