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Since this is my first OBE I wanted to post it in celebration and perhaps it might help others to hear how I changed from believing that its possible to knowing that it is true. This is directly from my journal.

Man in Bistro

It was so easy – exactly what I expected. I glanced at the clock ~5:18am. Then I had the thought (which I often do) about whether or not to practice attempting an OBE this morning. I was lying on my side and had not moved my body yet when it all happened. I heard the same Wooshing sound and vibrations that I had experienced one time before right after I woke up. I just focused on rising up for 5 seconds or so, there was a bit of a hesitation and then I felt myself rising up – knowing that I had done it – I was out of my body.

I went right to the window and tested it with my hand, which went through so I dove out (half wondering if I might hit the ground) and began to fly. I found myself in a completely different place than what is actually outside my window (even the window that I went out of was different). I was flying above a residential part of a city experimenting with my control of flying. This felt exactly like it did in previous lucid dream flying experiences I've had. I would see a tree or a tower up ahead and imagine that I was zooming towards it. My flying speeded up (somewhat). Then a sculpture on the back of someone's 3rd floor deck caught my eye so I swooped down to take a look. It was a sculpture of a woman. Since the back door seemed open I thought maybe I shouldn't be there (in case that could be construed as snooping). So, I took off again.

It was a gray cloudy early morning light. I had the sense that everything was just waking up for a new day. I accidentally flew through some wires but barely felt them. Then I flew over a breakfast place/market which reminded me of when I lived in Key West (But this place was more built-up with older buildings).

So, when I saw the next restaurant, I wanted to check it out. I don't really remember landing and going in, I was suddenly just inside the restaurant. I walked through and most people did not notice me. I was really watching them to see if there was any reaction. It's a very peculiar sensation to not be noticed – I really like it. Then one guy sitting at a table stood up and talked to me. I clasped his arm and told him that he was the first person I've ever talked to in my astral form. He hesitated but didn't seem to know what I was talking about. Someone else in the group (who also seemed to know I was there too) made a comment which prompted me to ask – Oh, were you close to dying? And he said that he was - but, everything seemed fine now. Then I told him – not to worry about a thing if you die. Its wonderful, you can do anything you want: from experiencing the most incredible bliss to helping other people and that it's simply great. He seemed much comforted by that.

Later, it occurred to me that he kind of reminds me of my Grandpa who died several years ago. He was younger and had more hair. Hum? I'm not sure what to make of this possibility because it wasn't clear to me at the time that that was the case. Perhaps that is why I was drawn to this particular place (wherever it was?)

I think that I clasped him again and then left the bistro.

Continued in the next post...

Hello,
I am delighted to find a group of people with so much experience and determination to help people learn astral projection. I suspect that you may be hearing from me a great deal, as I am very determined to explore my spiritual potential through learning this art. It has been nearly 20 years since I devoured every book I could find on the subject of OOBE's after reading Robert Monroe's Journey's out of the Body in my teens. I have recently reset my intention to devote myself to this practice.

I am wondering if anyone has any advice about how to react to the tension that I feel when I begin to experience exit sensations. I feel as though every muscle in my body begins straining - completely flexed. I am not completely sure if the experience is coming from my physical body but it feels as if I am straining with all of my mite to break free. Then I think - I should completely relax my muscles. But, when I do this, the racing heart chakra and falling sensations quickly begin to fade away. My mind seems to focus on the tension so much that I loose track of the 'rope' that I am feeling-sensing.

I have read that relaxation is considered the single most important element in a successful projection but I feel like I could just lie there all night long in a relaxed state and nothing would really happen. It seems to be when I really summons my intent to make it happen now that the sensations get moving - but that is also when the tension (muscle strain) builds up in my body.

So, I guess I am wondering where the balance is. Should I emphasize relaxation or intensity of purpose over the other?

I appreciate any responses
Thanks,
Veo

[Time circling – Size of circle – Direction of circle – Answer]

Hello,
This is exactly the kind of experiment that I have been thinking about in the back of my head. Edi, I really appreciate your pulling it together and putting it out there. I have had a couple of thoughts as I began to go through the first few questions that I would like to present.

One of the most difficult things in gathering statistical data is compiling it at the end of the process and returning meaningful results. Along those lines I am thinking that if we were to all use the same basic key it would be much easier for Edi to compile our results.

Here is my proposal:
We could each report on the following 4 identifiers (using the limited values described) and then add any comments that are important for each question afterwards.

Time circling – Size of circle – Direction of circle – Answer

Time circling refers to how long the pendulum took before settling in on a definitive response.
The key for this value will be:
None .......... Pendulum hung or went directly to a response
Short ......... <5 seconds
Med ........... 5-15 seconds (medium)
Long .......... 15-30 seconds
Very Long ..... >30 seconds

Size of circle refers to how wild (big) the swing is. This is somewhat subjective and will be based on each persons experience with their personal pendulum.
None
Small
Middle
Large

Direction of circle
CW .... Clock-wise
CCW ... Counter Clock-wise
None .. No rotation

Answer- The small and large modifiers on the yes and no response are to indicate how vigorus the swing is.
Sm Yes ........ Small Yes
Lg Yes ........ Large Yes
Sm No ......... Small No   
Lg No ......... Large No
NC ............ Not conclusive

Example:
1.   Does 1 plus 1 equal 3?
Short – Small – CW – Lg Yes
Comment: the code above indicates a strong quick definitive Yes response

Edi, if you agree with the suggestions above then I think it would be good if you specified that you would like users to use it (possibly by editing your original post). That way results will be a little easier to interpret when the experiment is complete.

BTW – I really like that you put some personal questions out there that we can go and immediately see the results of – I am looking forward to getting to that part.

Best Regards,
Veo

P.S. The first question I asked my pendulum was – Do I have permission to ask the following questions and make the responses available to the Astral Pulse forum members?

Hi Ginny,
Wow!
I am really appreciating your descriptions and answers to the questions people are posing to you.

Big welcome to you also Dora. It is great to have you here. I have to admit I have begun spending lots of time on Bruce's site filling in as much of the background information as I can. I'm planning to get his books this week and am seriously considering the possibility of also attending his workshop this February in Seattle. It would be very cool to meet you there Focus 15!

I have the opportunity to spend about an hour each day having a siesta. I am visualizing that this would be a wonderful time to spend doing retrievals and for creating a personal space in Focus 27. From a practical standpoint I am curious how long you typically spend at a time when you phase into non-physical reality? Is this something you do at any particular time of day/night?

Adrian - I have a great deal of gratitude and appreciation for you and your insight into Phasing and the possibilities that it holds for the future. I have a vision that Phasing may be something that people in all walks of life are able to begin to understand and experience - and that is truly awesome. I think once that happens the world will begin to change very very quickly for the good of all!

Frank - I haven't written to you in the past but you are my inspiration. Thank you for your open-ness. I am continually amazed at your insightfulness.  When I log into the Forum, I often just do a Search For: *blank space* with Search By Member: Frank. It brings up every topic you have written (that has a space in it). Just thought I would mention that in case others might want to do the same thing - it works great! I use it to keep track of what topics Robert Bruce has been contributing to lately also.

Take care,
Veo

Hi Ginny,
I have really appreciated your posts in all their detail. I would love to hear about how you make the transition from waking consciousness to opening your perception to the astral. Would you describe it as phasing like we have been talking about here?

I'm curious too about how you got started and any reflections on your early experiences.

I have been facinated by the subject for the last 17 years and very actively learning/practicing all that I can for the last year or so. I have had several experiences that are very reaffirming that this is my chosen path to follow in this lifetime. As such, I am eager to talk with people who are also on the same path and have been there before me.

Thanks so much,
Veo

I have recently finished reading (and rereading) an excellent book called Naked Soul - Astral Travel and Cosmic Relationships by Marlene Marie Druhan. The author is very insightful and open about the experiences she has had. She goes into great detail about exploring the possibilities of astral relationships. Beyond sex even is something she calls melding.

It would not do the book justice to attempt a summary but essentially astral sex can be a wonderful and very safe thing (with a few common cautions thrown in)

She has got a small web site. Like I said, it is the best book I have come across discussing cosmic relationships in great detail.

Veo


Unless we change directions, we are likely to end up where we're going.
Chinese Proverb

Frank,
Your description sparked a memory of what Robert Monroe talked about in Ultimate Journey. He described his later experiences of Astral projection as more like just 'phasing in' and 'phasing out' his awareness. My recollection is that he said he never experienced the traditional exit sensations any longer.

This also reminds me of a lot of reading I have done about some Indian spiritual masters. It has been described that they are so in-tune with the spiritual/astral dimensions. It is simply a choice of whether they choose to place their attention in the physical or other spiritual dimensions.

My sense is that the astral dimensions are around us and available to us at all times once we learn to expand our awareness. You are doing some awesome work. I look forward to hearing more about it.

Veo

Hey Qui-Gon,

I shook Steve Greer's hand last night and I was thinking about you at the time wishing that you were there too. It's funny because I had never heard of the disclosure project or given much thought to UFO's until I saw one of your posts a while back. Since then I have been hearing about Steven and his work in many different places. When I saw he was coming to my city I knew there must be something in the synchronicity of it all.

Perhaps that is one aspect of the work that I am doing with OBE's. I feel like I am opening up to more subtle things. Practicing my awareness. And when I get some kind of signal from the universe I am questioning that there may be something really behind it. Perhaps it is called developing my intuition.

A small example - the other night my wife and I went to look at a house for sale. We are looking but not committed to buying because it would be a big stretch financially. Anyway, when I got out of the car, right by my car door was a dead bird - it didn't look injured in any way - just dead. Now that seems like a sign to me - not to buy the house. But is it really a sign? I don't know. It turns out that the house could be the one, the price is not too bad and my wife really wants to buy it. So, do I just ignore it?

By the way I was very impressed by how intelligent and incredibly well connected Steven Greer is. The magnitude of the project that he has taken on is staggering. So, thanks for speaking about it and spreading the word. It will be very exciting to see and possibly participate as it all unfolds.

Veo

Unless we change directions, we are likely to end up where we're going.
Chinese Proverb

Hi,
Your question is very similar to one I posted a while back. "Balance between tension and relaxation" is the subject title. It's on page 12 of this same forum in case you want to see what people said back then. (Oh, you may need to set 'Show topics from the last year' to see pages that far back)

I have not yet resolved it but it seems that just practice and becoming more and more familiar with the different states helps a lot.

Good Luck,
Veo

Hello,
I was delighted to find that by filling out a questionnaire on The Monroe Institute website they sent me one of their tapes for free. They don't tell you ahead of time so it was like a nice surprise at the end. (This was several months ago -I hope they are still doing it)

Anyway, the tape is called Catnapper - 45 minutes of pure relaxation. I find it extremely relaxing and it puts me into a sleep state within a few minutes. It's a great intro to Hemi-sinc for anyone interested.

Here is the link:
http://www.hemi-sync.com/
Click on Website comments (after you've looked around a bit)

I bought Transcendence shortly after and am off to listen to it - thanks for reminding me.

~ Veo

Yes, Welcome to the site - it is fantastic. I am always amazed how much insight and experience the people here have to share. I have been introduced to whole new concepts and ideas that I had never considered. It has been truly expanding.

I have found that reading posts on this sight is so alluring that my tendency is to spend more time doing that than practicing NEW and projection. I am restoring my balance as I believe that it's the energy work more than anything that will ultimately help me most in my ability to project.

Once again - this is in way of saying thank you to everyone out there contributing to what is becoming a wealth of practical information on Astral Projection.

Veo

Hey Qui-Gong,

It sure seemed like the real-time zone to me at the time. It's really hard to say though at my experience level. Can one be in the real-time zone and not be sure how they got to the place they are? Or, did the very act of going through a reality fluctuation (the mystery window) mean that I wound up in an astral realm?

I've been thinking about how to describe how the sensations of flying felt to me – it is really difficult. It feels like the most natural thing in the world to be doing and it is really exhilarating all at the same time.  I really noticed what Robert describes as the memory of gravity effect. As soon as I would stop thinking about the flying per say I began to feel myself sinking slowly to the ground. I didn't have any sensation of atmosphere (like wind in my face or anything). I have done some hang gliding and there is the same sort of lofty feeling of being up so high and looking out across everything. That is part of the exhilarating feeling.  The incredible thing is just being able to go anywhere with a thought it doesn't feel like there is any effort involved.

One observation that I wanted to comment on now that it has been a couple of days - when I experience things normally, like going to the park for example, I have a very clear memory of that experience for quite a long time after. Whereas, the memory that I have of the OBE I described is much more dream like. The clarity seems to fade much faster. I wonder if that is something that improves with experience?

Thanks for your comments!
Veo

Continued from the last post.

I was walking along the sidewalk and this small fluffy white dog started biting on my hand. There wasn't any sensation of pain; it felt like it might have felt if I were wearing a leather glove. I was thinking after I returned to my body that maybe he was trying to get my attention. But I didn't even consider following him or stopping to see what he wanted. He was just kind of annoying me. I had this sense of slight urgency like it was time for me to get back to my body. I did a little run and jump – coasted a little way but settled down again. A young boy walked by and looked up and said hello – which caught me off guard – that he could see me too. Hum? I tried to fly again but thought this is going to be difficult (with this dog holding on to my hand). Then I had a thought about my body and quickly felt myself phasing in. As soon as I did I heard my wife rolling over/repositioning herself.  There wasn't much of a sensation, just a queer sort of readjustment – a sense of suddenly having to get used to being in a completely new place.

I glanced at the clock, it was 5:38am
During the OBE I remember having distinct thoughts about wanting to be able to remember everything when I wake up (shadow memory and all that). Somehow, I was sure that I would. Apart from the very clear sensation of leaving my body at the beginning, this felt just like a lucid dream except that I knew I was out of my body and in some kind of a real zone rather than just in a dream reality. If anything, I was even more conscious.  

Question to ponder: What was that little dog trying to do? What did he represent?
Had the people that I talked to died? What if that was my grandpa? What can I do to help him transition to a place that might be better for him.

At the risk of over emphasizing the significance of this... I am feeling like this is truly a turning point in my life. In this short experience I have gone from the belief that it is possible for people to Astral Project to knowing that I can consciously Astral Project. This is huge. All the lingering doubts about whether it is something that I could ever learn to do or not are gone. I know that I can exit my body, feeling all of the sensations and not become afraid. I believe that I will be able to do this again and again. I believe that I can improve my skills while out of my body.

Because I did not do anything, per say, to bring the experience on, I am not sure I'm any closer to being able to consciously project at will. This will be the ultimate. But, now at least, I know exactly what the exit sensations feel like. What it feels like to be acting outside my body.

Just thinking of all of the possibilities that this opens up. The idea of  connecting with my spirit guide. Consulting the Akashic records to discover what path my soul has taken. Connecting with people who have died and helping them transition. Healing my physical body with knowledge/energy from the astral realm. Exploring other dimensions/levels. Helping me discover my true mission in this life. Beginning to know that I am a soul and what will happen after death. Playing. Meeting other people in the Astral. Being able to fly, to explore underwater, visit other planets, travel back in time, communicate with higher spirits.

I am glowing with new energy. I want to do this again right away.
~ Veo

I also wanted to respond to your original question about some kind of day by program you might follow. Turns out that there is a great one right here on this site. Its called the Astral Dynamics Workbook. From the main page click on Training Guides (in the links across the top) At the very bottom of the page is the title "The Astral Dynamics Workbook" (click on that)

"This is the long-awaited 90 day OBE program, created from Astral Dynamics by Brian Mercer. This applies a goal-oriented structure to the knowledge given in Astral Dynamics, in an easy-to-follow day by day program; fully referenced to the relevant pages in Astral Dynamics..."

Of course, you'll want to resolve things with your fiancé. Perhaps looking at this as the first big challenge that you face - both in learning to live with another person and in learning to Astral project. Think long about what it will be like living with someone that either you must hide your truth from or who prevents you from following your heart. Possibly Astral projection is just the first thing that you have come across. This is the perfect opportunity to forge the communication and trust that is so important in any relationship - don't back away from it. The need to be able to express your truth honestly and openly will never go away.

All the best,
Veo

So, how long, for example, do you lay there relaxing and listening to your heart beat? Do you find that that by itself is enough to bring on exit sensations?
Thanks,
Veo

There are a couple of ways to find out about N.E.W.:
On the main page of this site, select the link 'Training Guides' at the top. On that page you can read the information while online under the topic: N.E.W. Energy Ways (click on the words).

To dowload the same training manual to read offline, select the link 'Downloads' (near the top) and once there select the download link under 'N.E.W. Energy Ways'

Detailed information about N.E.W (as it relates to the practice of Astral Projection) is also provided in his book Astral Dynamics.

Good luck,
Veo