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#1
Welcome to Metaphysics! / New ZETA Website
October 20, 2004, 19:20:33
Hello fellow Astral Pulsers,
I have come back to give a brief announcement.

As some of you know, the Mayatnik Channeling Team left the Astral Pulse, and as a result the channeling of the Zeta ceased on the AP. We have been in contact with the Zeta and other species ongoing since then, and now it is time for the Zeta to be heard once again – but this time on their own website.

The Zetas have expressed a wish for their representatives to say a few words to you here on the AP at this time about what is now ongoing:

Zeta: We wish you welcome to our new site : www.zeta-mayatnik.org. It has been ordered by the High Council of Worlds that no communication must proceed after this instance between the Zeta and the Astral Pulse, so therefore any further contact must succeed under other conditions. We have long been monitoring the Astral Pulse, and we find no reason as to why the members of the Astral Pulse and others should not be able to have their answers.  To this end, We have provided a page on the Zeta-Mayatnik site that will serve as a section for questions to be answered either by us or our channelers' own guides in response.

Some of the AP members may be aware that we channel through Nancy Lieder on Zetatalk.  Zeta-Mayatnik is different in that we are happy to talk to you in answer to your personal questions.  We have also provided a number of email addresses in our email us section – and particularly 'news@zeta-mayatnik.org' where any 'information' you may care to share can be submitted.  One current point of interest is concerning the erratic movements of the sun and moon.  Zetatalk's 'Troubled Times' reports many sightings of irregular movements, and the denial by such as NASA that anything is out of the ordinary.  So, what have you seen?  Is the moon where it should be, or does it seem to be somewhere else these days, or not there at all?  Let the Zeta-Mayatnik site know your observations and views – in this way many can then benefit.


Written on behalf of
The Team at zeta-mayatnik.org

With Pleiadian Love and Light
Fuzziwig
#2
DISCUSSION THREAD

Post your discussions here
of
any answers given by the
Reptilians

The other thread
<REPTILIAN guides tell HOW IT REALLY IS !>
should be kept for SPECIFIC questions
- so this thread is provided for broad discussion
of the answers that the Reptilians give
in their INFORMATION dialogues.




Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#3
THIS THREAD IS
for
REPTILIAN CONVERSATION TRANSCRIPTS
and
QUESTIONS FOR THE REPTILIANS TO ANSWER


This thread has been created so that members on the Astral Pulse are able to access information provided by the Reptilians, in answer to questions posted by members.

The information given on the thread is being relayed through a telepathic connection. A Pleiadian guide will administer the connection and help as needed. Since this project is a 'Joint Venture' with the Pleiadians as Mayatnik would call it, the connection will be going through the Pleiadian mothership to the Reptilians. In effect that means that all communication will be recorded and made available for other species. Species that are working on helping on Earth, and so this recording is letting them learn from this experience as well.

The reason I created this thread was of an opportunity to give the members of the Astral Pulse an insight in what the Reptilians had to say. I have heard many stories and rumours about them but never really taken much notice to them. However I thought it would be a good idea to present, what they had to say in questions that members might have. So you have the chance to do so now, and the questions will then be answered after the best of ability on a regular basis.

As in the Zeta communications thread its common sense that you should never believe in what you read, but discuss it with an open mind approach to gain more understanding and better perspective. There will be an associated thread to these discussions, but also feel free to make your own thread on any topic the Reptilians give answers to.

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#4
Hello All
I have for a long time enjoyed being at this forum where i have developed much in many ways. Until recently i have worked hard to maintain the channelings at the Reptilian thread and sometimes channeling at the Zeta thread. I took some 'sick leave' from channeling and im better now, being once again able to channel. As i stand here, i see that its time for me to move on. I move on as every person in life moves on, to other things in their lifeplan. More lessons ahead and more things to learn.
The time here has been of gaining knowledge but also a great understanding of others views. I want to thank the good people of this forum for the great time here. I hope you will find the answers that your looking for and have a great time doing it.

I have mentioned through long time that Mayatnik especially has been treated rather harshly. I know from personal experience, that he has only worked here with the best intentions for the members. Trying to teach and sometimes giving information to shed a members conditioning. This may have appeared harsh sometimes, but only done so as he believed this to be the best guidance. Members have by this, atleast been given the chance to examine this further, but not meaning that they were forced to change. Mayatnik is no longer here at this forum, but i talked to him recently and he told me :
"Just tell them I tried my best"
So his message is hereby passed on, and i shall let my guide Jopeha speak now as she has some words to say.

Jopeha:
The changes going on around you will make you wonder where the old times were, and lead you to new horizons. It will not mean the end of everything, but a beginning to new things. As it comes to pass there will be a lot to look forward to, as man can move towards a new era and not be afraid of the responsibility that lies ahead. You will find that there are far more chances to become happy and content and so fullfillment can take place. You will not be alone on this and as people gather around, there will be chances to grow with each other. Not having to worry will make a huge change in the outlook on the world around you. There is no need to be afraid or worry about the things to come, for they will happen as they were planned far before we were even born. You will not have to worry because you know. You know what there is to come and why. You know because you have been told in so many ways. Through the everyday life and through the changes that are made by the soul. The validity of all this information is for you to find either true or false. I can only point in one direction and let you explore it.

Take care all

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#5
Hello all
First of all i would like to thank those who have shown concern for my wellbeing. It warms my heart to know that people do care.

I want to comment on some things here, because i feel that it needs to be said. I have been following this thread, and what was to be a simple informative thread about me being gone on sick leave for reasons being 'deliberate attacks on the work that was done', and 'ongoing onslaught of vicious criticism' turned into something quite different. It has become yet a stage with the same attacks which made me take 'sick leave' in the first place.

I would like to say to those who are sceptic, that there is nothing wrong with being sceptic. We dont force anything upon you, but present something for you to read. You can examine the information if you wish and your not required to believe in any of it, because that was never our intention. It was intended to be information for the reader to examine and find their own truth. Not from just one source but several, where our group has provided several. Other sources have also been presented from others in the 'channeling God' thread and from outside the forum the Cassiopaens, to name some of them - and Hephaestus provided positive discussion on the Cassiopaen channelings which Mayatnik has replied to with detailed explanations to further add to knowledge and understanding and that is good interactive discussion as it should be.
Its not our job to find all the different sources besides what we provide, so if members dont like what is provided then they are free to find other sources. This was what Hephaestus found and acted by bringing in the Cassiopaens as a source of information to be examined.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10718
In that same thread it was suggested by Mayatnik that all ALL channelings (whatever their 'source') should be interpreted with common sense and intuition. He showed how this interpretation could go about from an ordinary reader's point of view, with detailed examples and explanations. To help the reader examine their own information and find the answers they needed.
Whether you believe what the Zeta say or not, they have said that not simply  'believe' but examine and use ALL channeled material for "consideration" which is why they (the Zeta) said that readers should "consider the Cassiopaen material"
So the buffet of information is laid out, and if you dont like the dishes, bring in your own as you like, or even place requests at the channelers in the various threads who can provide more. The readers can with this buffet, find if they like what they see and taste. To whether it is digestable and go about finding the right combination of dishes that is just right for them. Some of the dishes may not be that tasteful, so you may say 'yuk' and move on to the next to see if its better for you.
Preventing others from trying out the dish properly would not only be limiting to those people, but also a way to deprive them of getting that perfect combination of dishes that they needed. Telling them that this is an absolutely horrible dish, doesnt help them make up their mind about it. They meet that dish with the thought of it being horrible, thus thinking that it might not be right for them and affecting their taste of it.
One could also attack those who provided the one or more dishes that they didnt like. In much the same way as before preventing others from trying out a dish, but in this case excluding a whole range of dishes.
Finding that combination of dishes or your personal truth is no easy matter. Lets not make it harder than it already is for each other. Im not saying that people should keep quiet, but saying that discussions can be conducted without having to attack the provider of the information or labelling information as a lie. People are intelligent enough to make up their own minds and what may percieved as a lie by someone, may be truth to a different person.
In this you have to consider that a persons view of truth can only be what that person knows at that time. So it would be fair to say that all have different perceptions at any given time thus all these different views of truth. It is that very perception that can not grow if you dont try to examine and absorb other information.
I have during this sick leave been in contact with my guide as before, who has provided the support that i needed. Its a relationship where i can allways count on her being by my side. When hard lessons has to be learned or when i just need a good conversation with someone i can trust. Trust that has been build up through a long time of interaction with my guide. It has during time been discussions with my guide that has led to my own personal truth, like it has with Edi and Mayatnik. My relationship with Mayatnik in particular is a friendship where we talk and discuss about various subjects. A friendship that gains insight by the couselling that is provided by Mayatnik, and it is then up to me to discuss it with my guide and use common sense and intuition. Again to find my personal truth to the matter being discussed. For these reasons i dont see Mayatnik as a cultleader, but a friend that is willing to help me and let me examine things for myself. Working in a group has certain advantages because work can be done in a team, but that doesnt imply control. We work together, but each with our own free will to do what we want, and this has been the case as long as i have worked in the group.

To round things up with the personal truth, we hope to help others with gaining their own personal truth by giving information here on this forum, and let them examine it for themselves amongst other sources. Attacking those who provide this information doesnt help others in gaining that personal truth, nor does it help those others to call the information a lie for they can make up their own minds, and it might just be their personal truth.

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#6
F: Hello
R: Hi there
F: ready for questions
R: we are

Dark_Phoenix: do you have simulated gravity? and if so what is that  technology?
R: We do not have simulated gravity, but something that could be perceived as that. It is a technology that allows us to enter a state of free movement as we are used to on our planet. We simply use the technology to let the people onboard the ship intermingle with other crewmembers, in order for them to cooperate without strain or effort. The technology is based on the principles of letting the matter that that we all compose of, to a state where we can control it and make it react as not influenced by gravity. There are ways to make this happen, but it involves technology that you have yet not encountered.

Dark_Phoenix: is there this 'demon' war that suposedly going to happen  after the pole shift? if so why?
R: There isnt going to be a demonwar after the poleshift.

Kuhl: "It is true that it was mentioned that we have colony planets, but  this was not by us."
I don't understand this statement. I am sure there is a reason, but it  isn't clear enough to satisfy me.

R: It was not mentioned by us as it was mentioned in a question posed by a member. To be more specific it was posed by Hepaestus, who wanted to know if the density change would affect the objects that were in contact with our species.

F: lets stop here and finish upon the rest
R: okay
F: take care
R: take care

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig

#7
Hello all
I will be channeling a bit in this thread again to answer some of the members question. I can see there are quite a number of questions, so I will continue with answering some of those.

Conversation:
F: Hello
Z: Hi, its been a while since you last channeled here, but we know it will be fine.
F: [:)] alot of question, so I think we should get started
Z: okay

SeventhVirgo: Is Papa Roach aware of what is really going on? He (or whoever writes the lyrics) seems to know alot of what is wrong with our world... In his lyrics he also mentions things that seem metaphysical, and he mentions that he "dodges" darkside's arrows everyday because of what he says. I'm not really sure what I am asking... but maybe the Zeta can comment on his music and a bit of what he knows. Thanks.
Z: The person that you refer to is indeed inspired by various paranormal phenomenas and likes to explore these areas. To what his knowledge about these subjects are, we cannot comment as this is a highly personal matter. We can say that he knows about the subjects that he writes about in his songs.

SeventhVirgo: One day when I woke up... I saw my parents' bedroom door open... and no one was in the room... was this just my imagination? Or... who was it? :)
Z: You were experiencing something that has to do with your guide. You were shown a scene that contained the bedroom that you talked about and a white  figure that would show you some things that had to do with the early years of you life. It were things that involved previous experiences that affected you in a way that seemed inappropiate to the guides. It was decided to intervene in this case to set some things straight, and to see if you could cope with these experiences later in life.

SeventhVirgo: In my early childhood years... I had certain "dream-like" experiences... I can only remember of two right now... perhaps the Zeta know what I'm talking about, were these "dreams" supposed to teach me a lesson? Or what were they?
Z: They were dreams in which you were prepared for things to come later in life. They served the purpose of preparing you for the spiritual side of life and to make you more open to certain aspects of the spritual. The dreams would hold the message that there were something beyond the mere life that everybody else led, and that life would hold a chance to embrace the diversity of the beings in all shapes and sizes.

SeventhVirgo: When I was a little older... maybe 7-10 years old, I saw a "UFO". Could this have been a dream? If it wasn't, I know it wasn't the Zeta... Could you comment on this please? Thank you.
Z: What you saw was indeed a dream to stimulate certain thoughts that were needed for your progress as a whole. There are no ufo's to have appeared for you in your wake life, and so there is no need to worry about the possibility of visitations or similar. We dont see a problem with your dream as it was meant to trigger some thought in you, later in life. The dreams are meant for you to experience impressions that are normally not available and so these impressions makes an alternate view on certain things. The dreams dont normally hold any such impressions as you mention in the dream, but they were given to you to give a different view on alien beings in specific. So there is no need to put too much into this dream as it served as a supplement to the allready existing views on this subject.

SeventhVirgo: Considering my experiences from childhood... I don't think it was a coinsidence to have bumped into this forum. My friend, told me about OBE/Entities/ExtraTerrestrials/etc... As most people, I was skeptical at first, and made fun of him... but later started being interested in it. Was I meant to meet hiim? Because he has changed the way I think about life... and I guess I am now more "enlightened," than before.
Z: The meeting with him was not incidental as you have met each other before in a previous life. There are often souls who meet each other through the course of time to help and influence each other. You could call this a lifelong friendship which happens to go beyond a single life. Its typical that lives are interconnected like this, because of the many benifits that lies in this sort of making lives. So all in all there are an interest to connect through several lives in the hope of exchanging knowledge and help one another.

SeventhVirgo: Wll it make a difference if my friend decides to stop studying and "learning" as he is doing so now? Would it be better if he just forgot about that? How would it affect him? If it's not appropriate to answer specifically about him, then how does just deciding to stop being part of the education system, affect your life? I reason that there are positive effects to that and "negative." What are these?
Z: The life your friend is leading is happening because of the changes that he has made, but we cannot answer specific about him as those are privat matters that only affect him. We can talk about the educationsystem that is maintained to establish a foundation for knowledge to benifit the people that use it. Its not a system that everyone can agree on as it bears on some principals of being in a certain way, that is not in conjunction with the actual case; that men are not all alike and they have needs that extend the rules that are put upon them. The needs are sometimes unreasonable, but they reflect the individuals wishes for something bigger, even though it may seem silly. There is a need to listen to these individuals instead of punishing or shutting them out from the rest of the class. There are no suggestions to the problem that solves them, if there is not experienced openess and understanding towards the individual with the troublesome life.
We suggest that a better way of communication take place when these problems arise. Initially the problems are often based in this lack of communication and the need for control over the students. There are no need for this control, as the students should have the freedom to choose what they want without suppression. For far too long have the students been under the pressure of not being good enough, thus being forced to do better under condition of harder work and increased performance. We dont find the way of learning particularly helpful as it poses some problems in regard to how the individual learn. There is no need to pressure a student into learning something in a fixed amount of time, because there are no single student who can perform in much the same way as the next student. Each person has its individual way of learning and its by this way of learning that the knowledge of the person is created. So by putting the knowledge into a system your are in fact limiting the opportunities for an individual to learn, because of the diversity that lies in the way man learns. In separating the need for learning and the process of learning itself, you achieve a much more flexible way of learning. By separating you achieve a much more individual approach to learning that can take the individual much further than the conventional system, and therefore will there be a need at some point to change from a system that restricts, to a more open and direct approach to learning. It will be with the help of many people that it can take place and make way for a better way of learning. It will make the present system obsolete, because of the changes that will take place and when this happens there will be room for such improvements. There will at first not be much learning because of peoples previous relationship to education, but it will be become natural to want to learn in order to become knowledgable and produce a way of learning.


Risu no Kairu: So, uh, what technology (things like, but not limited to, electricity, light bulbs, planes (these are just examples to give you a feel of what I'm looking for, not the only things I'm asking about, so if they had something like an electric can opener, you could say that)) did ancient man of Earth have similar to todays technology?
Z: The ancient man that you refer to, have had many kinds of technology which have been based on the discovery of natures own forces. They have been utilized through the use of wind power and through the use of heat coming from the center of the Earth. It has often been technology that meant the betterment of the species on a day to day basis. It has been technology that meant that the immediate results of the production of food could be delivered at a much faster pace. Production that meant the people using it could spend much more time on developing in both technology and individually. So by using these tools there was a chance to have more time for social things and gathering of yet more food for the troublesome times that could occur through winters. The technology would evolve to something that included the use of various source of fossile fuel and by this discovery, tools could be made to further the development of technology. There would be used a source of fuel to create a certain kind of tools. These would be used for breaking up the earth and find deposits of precious metals in use for jewelry and such. They would make many of these to please the people that wore them and to establish a way to appreciate the people who were given them. They functioned as way to repay people for their hard work and dedication, and they would happily accept these tokes of appreciation because of their significanse. It would later be institutionalized to pay a valued worker with these kinds of tokens. It would signify his overall performance as being out of the ordinary, thus giving an impression of being out of the ordinary. It would further give the other workers a reason to work harder in order to obtain similar tokens and show their status in society. The tools that would later be developed were based on previous technology, but later improved upon and gave life to new ideas. Ideas that revolved around the use of finer instruments to explore and use of other metals to use for the many ordinary things in life. They would later supplement the metals that were allready used for making jewelry and make them stronger. The use of these new metals brought many changes that could be measured in the use of metals and the use of tools that followed. By introducing these new tools, there would be a rich new way of producing things and manufacturing of tools in particular. It would mean that the tools would bear a significant importance to the development of new technology, and survival of the species. Later when new technology would be invented, there wouldnt be the use of tools that were once used. They were replaced with other things such as the use of crafted functional machines that operated on very few things, such as production and maintainance of old parts used in production and machines which purpose was to produce. The machines made them capable of extending their lives with technology they had available, but also capable of making products for their citizens in their community. There would no longer be a need for working hard for the basic necessities, and this made them capable of extending further upon their lives by developing in a positive way towards more human potential.

Risu no Kairu: What's the deal with those giant Maoi heads of Easter Island ?Who built them ? Why?
Z: The Maoi heads were build by an ancient civilization to establish a way to communicate with the gods who were believed to hold great power.

Risu no Kairu: Could you give us a key to decode the ... uh.... that book thing that the other guy mentioned that's written in secret text?
Z: no we can not.

Risu no Kairu: Do you guys use emoticons when you're on the computer, too?
Z: no, we dont

Risu no Kairu: Does your computer have Solitaire? Minesweeper?
Z: We do not have those, no

Risu no Kairu: Could you give us a key to deciphering Linear A?
Z: no, we can not

Sn0wball: can you tell us something about Sai Baba? Who is he really?
Z: The man Sai Baba is a religious leader that is considered to hold certain powers that should alter the way matter is interpreted. Its not a power that he posses, but a magictrick that he has learned to convince followers that he is the real thing. We cant say much more about him.

Viper_05: did tupac shakur really die.. or did he just fake his death and  he's living somewhere peacefully and so forth ?
Z: Tupac shakur is not living somewhere else as he is dead.

Hephaestus: Why should humanity trust the Zetas?
Z: We dont ask of you to trust us. We ask of you to listen to what we have to say and be open towards the way that we influence. We dont have a wish to put upon you burdens that should solve your problems. We wish for you to develop with the answers that are given to you and develop towards a greater understanding.

Hephaestus: Will terrorists detonate a nuke on american soil?
Z: No

Mrsix: I have been energy raising for about 4-5 months now... is it possible for you to tell whether I have actually made much progress, in regards to storing more energy? Can you tell what my energy body looks like? If so, i'd be interested of your opinion of it! What needs more works, etc...
Z: Your energy body has greatly improved in the sense that dull energy has been washed away, and replaced with fresh energy. It has improved in areas around your waist and in the abdomen, but not in the area around your back. You could improve by paying attention to your back for a bit and continue as you do now.

Mrsix: I have had, I beleive, around 4 Out Of Body Experiences...
Each one i've had didn't last very long... will energy raising eventually be able to increase my time spent OOBing?
Z: The energyraising will not increase your time out of your body, but maintain a level of energy making you capable of moving beyond a certain point in the astral.

Mrsix: Last question, During the poleshift, would it be beneficial for people to raise energy? Will the overrall amount of energy people have be increased??
Z: It will be benificial to raise energy after the poleshift. As with other spiritual development, this too will continue after the poleshift and benifit ppl. People will have a different view on spiritual development after the poleshift, so there might be an increased amount of people doing it.

LittleNinja: Okay. I would like to ask a few questions to the Zetas about synchronicities. I dont' know why but ever so often I would see number patterns that appear on watches, emails, books, and etc. The patterns that I see have the first number similar to the last number. Examples: 121, 939, 2727, 616, and so on ......
Now, what i'm asking is, what do they mean? From what I have gathered, I know that these number patterns are related to the Pleiadians. I have also heard that these numbers are meant to tell us that we are starting to look beyond what this physical reality is all about; the realization that there is more to life than meets the eye. Can the zetas tell me more about this synchronicity phenomena, or just tell me something that would help me understand it better?

Z: The syncronicity phenomena is something that has been going on for a very long time. Its something that has a meaning in the sense that people pay attention to it like yourself, but doesnt know what it means. There are no secret agendas behind the phenomena, but to make people wonder and think of possibilities. The phenomena started out as an occurance in the media, where it would appear as a gentle reminder of the phenomena. Later to be represented in making an appearance as a number on the door, or a small note that signified a change in billing a customer. The phenomena is not man made, but related to the Earth project that takes place and it influences people in a subtle way to become more aware of the things around them. They dont see that the world is more than work and eating, and so the phenomena was intiated by the help of the guides, who put these reminders in the every day lives that people live.

F: take care till next time
Z: goodbye and have fun till we meet again
F: [;)]

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#8
Hello everyone
Another set of questions to be answered by the Reptilians.

Conversation:
F: Hi
R: Hello
F: ready ?
R: yes

Hephaestus: What 'nonephysical' powers can a person gain whilst on this  plane of existance?
R: A person can gain abilities that match with his/her current potential. That means that the abilities that are gained on this level of existence, are only given as appropiate to the persons development. The thought that gaining as many kinds of powers should promote ones life is not really productive as these powers comes with certain responsibility and a way to use them in practical ways. Practical ways that may seem silly, but are really guidelines to which improvement can be achieved by gaining wisdom from the lessons that follows. The reason that the guidelines are put out, are for the guides to follow the individual through the development in a pace that can be followed. Too often the individual wants to rush things to gain the abilities in a fast pace and this is sometimes possible, but often it is a road that leads to frustration and makes the individual sad because of the lack of results, and a feeling of not being good enough.
We dont say that you shouldnt follow your dreams to become better, but it would be a good idea to explore those dreams with ease and find out where they take you. This may take you to a road of many joys and laughs, but also the less good things in life. In the end there is nothing that can make you go beyond your boundries and make you go against your own will, because the guides have a clear idea of what the individual is capable of. The things there is to gaining abilities is that they are followed up upon by the guides, and so any progress done by the individual makes an increased support by the guides. Increasing the support means that the individual is increasingly adapted to the new abilities gained and a more rapid progress can take place. Its not without consequences that this takes place as the individual must adapt to the new abilites as well as use them with caution, but certain things are them forbidden. Things that interfer with another persons free will, and leaves no choice for the individual to break out of this bondage. In other words, free will is preserved under any circumstance, and is left intact even under strainius conditions.
So a will to do such acts would cause the guides to intervene and make sure it doesnt happen. Not only can they intervene when such an act appear, but also common intervention when something gets out of hand for the individual. When a guide sees these things, there are held meetings with other guides to discuss what the best way of action is. So there is no way to inflict other persons pain without reprecautions. Such is it with the use of abilities that are given by the guides for the individual to learn from them an not cause pain. They were intended for the person to learn and not for them to be used to gain powers that could enslave others. Its not about a powertrip, but a way to adapt to a betterment in the person. So in a way there are many who wish to gain these powers , but they are left without because of the motives that drive them to gaining these powers. When a person is in the need of these abilities there are also meeting about this, to see if the person is fitted for it, and can take the responsibilities that follow. So when thinking about getting abilities, one must come to term with their use and why its important to gain these. Abilities are not to be taken lightly, as they hold potential to bring new and exciting experiences for the person to learn.
In many ways they are the precursor to the potential of the new man that will unfold as the new age of man will come. When this happens, all the bits and pieces will come together and create a whole man that can sustain the new potential that has been awoken in him/her. It will be a glorius time for mankind with the love and light, that will be available to the ones that are willing to embrace it. Man will be a better man with new insights, and new fresh approaches to life and those around him/her. Initially this means that man will develop further from the new potential and gain even more sight in the world around as well as gaining sight in ppl specifically. More will come as man develops, but first through hard tries and effort. So there will be a new age for man, which will involve new abilites as well as an understanding of their use. Later when it has been taught that the reason for the abilities lie in its use, new things will emerge, and the things that seemed important will whither away to be replaced by new purpose and hope for the future. There will only be one way that will lead to this path, and its by this discovery that man will seek out this path and follow it by the will and hope for a better life. Only then will man be free from the many bonds put upon him/her and lead to a freer life.


Hephaestus: How many species exist in the known universe on the physical  plane? counting humans as one species how many different species exist?  (not counting hybrids)
R: We dont know the exact number of species, as there are so many. We do know that the species all have in common that they all descend from the genotypes which determines the shape and sizes. There are species who have more accurate information on the amount of species, but they are not available for communication at this moment. Whether you would find the number of species that exist, then be certain that ones are created all the time and so the number would change all the time.

Hephaestus: Were the Gods of ancient Greece real beings? and if so what  happened to them and what happened in particular to Hephaestus?
R: The Gods of ancient Greece were real in the sense, that they existed in the minds of the people that lived at that time. They werent manifested as in flesh and blood, but they did play a role in the governing of the country that were affected by this way of thinking. They would affect in the ways of how people would lead their every day lives and spread their influence by establishing themselves into the believes of every person in the population. The greek Gods would hold a special position in the way that certain rituals were performed, and how the ruler of Greece would be  associated with these. So there was period of time where they would influence Greece, but later to be replaced by something else. The Gods would each hold a special position for the different kind of people as by their different professions. This was a way to promote inner strenght and motivation to overcome even the strongest obstacles that were percieved in the everyday lives. So by having these believes, hope would be promoted in believing that something bigger than themselves would stand behind them, and support in the worst of times. This was infact one of the reasons that the Gods were percieved to be physical and in much better shape than their human believers. It would hold an ideal and an opportunity to become like the Gods by becoming better. So you would have young men competing each other, to become something that held godlike properties. This was indeed a way to promote those inner qualities and to promote that inner strenght that was so important for this people, but it also chose to ignore the subtler things in life. This was one of the reasons that it didnt hold the promise of the kind of life that certain individuals wanted. It wasnt frustration that filled these individuals, but a feeling of senselessness, from which they found other interests than religion. It wouldnt make sense to go with thoughts that didnt hold the answers to the questions that the individual wanted.
So there was a reform at some point which made it possible to extend upon the believes and include a larger understanding of the Gods. This would serve as a compromise to all the people which felt alienated or unfullfilled with the believes in the greek Gods. The compromise served its purpose, but still left some individuals to think of their position in all of this, and they found themselves somehow different from the rest. They didnt feel any need to subject themselves to these believes, because there was no basis for doing so. Not only felt they alienated, but also left out because of the many social gathering that surrounded the believes in the greek Goods. It wouldnt be fair to say that they lived under suppression, but more of an exclusion from certain things that were taking place in the communities. It would make them vulnerable to economical difficulties, because they had no or little social network to draw resources from and so they were especially exposed in times of hardship. There wouldnt be any help to count upon from the government, as they wouldnt give handouts to poor people. It would be difficult sometimes for these people, but they would find ways upon surviving through the difficult times, and find ways to intermingle with the people showing understanding of their situation. There would be given help by these understanding people, who found their inner strenght to be an external influencing of the people they saw as needing help. They saw opportunities to create friendships that extended far beyond believes and they found this to be liberating from the ideas that were thought of in society.
So by acting out of the ordinary set by society there was created room for more interaction with ppl who were once left out, but indeed became friends. By opening up to people that once had been their fellow citizens,but left out because of their believes, they achieved a greater understanding of people who were different and thereby gained more tolerance. The friendships they gained from this was not only of a personal basis, but also in bussiness situations as not all these newthinkers were poor. In gaining these bussiness relations, there was created a need to expand upon these relations, and so the bonds would become even stronger. Needless to say there was alot of interaction between the newthinkers and the open minded, and so there were new relations created with the newthinkers and those less open, because of the change of perception that was created upon the success of the openminded in their bussiness. It would contribute to a society that had friendships beyond the bounds of believes, which was unheard of before and not really thought of. By establishing frienships, tolerance was opened up for and contact with seemingly strangers more welcome than before. It could not influence the whole population as there were groups of people who relied much on their faith and how other people should have that same faith. These groups of people were isolated from others who had different ideas on how to believe and live life. So they were in a sense left out of the big debates that took place on these new ideas, because they wouldnt participate in a discussion that could alter the way they were thinking. It was simply not approved of as it could alter on the existing believes, and would disrupt the existing rule of Greece. So there was no way a participation could take place, but instead the groups would discuss amongst themselves. It wasnt productive to separate like this, but it did draw up some different sides which influenced society in each its way.


Hephaestus: No offense is intended here but to get to the point, you give  us answers that you make out you are sure of (such as the inca stones) yet  when confronted about the differences between your answers and that of the  zetas you say they must have more information than you do. I'd suggest if  you are not sure of the answer, then say so rather than giving us an answer  that in the end is wrong, because at the end of the day either you guys are  wrong or the zetas are wrong there are no if and buts about it. Why should  humanity trust you and your answers if you feed us false information?
R: Your implying that the answers that are given by both species are some what faulty or wrong if they differ. This is not the case as the information that is given to us, is both accurate and precise. The information is something that is brought to us by various sources, which we hold in high regard for its accuracy. Because of this there are no reason to question the validity of the information, as it is as precise as can be expected. When information is used, its used to answer questions for example and these answers are compiled of various sources of information that makes a bigger picture of what you would call truth. The truth is not something tangible, as it is created from sources and manufactured by individuals who do so by their will to create something as correct as possible. There will of course be an interest in creating correct information, but bear in mind that this correct information is created and so can not be completely the same as information created by others.
This was what happened in the question that you refered to, and it is something that happens from time to time, but it doesnt leave out the fact that both answers are true, because there are no single truth and there are no single answer to cover a question completely with such a single truth. Futhermore are there interpretations of a question and the information that is provided for such an interpretation, and thereby leaving many openings for a difference in answers. Its no surprise that from all these variations upon answering that there is a truth behind, but also the will to change the many views that are set on making life more difficult than need be. So by reading our answers, your adding to your knowledge on a particular subject, but also getting a different view on things which may not hold the truth for you. The important thing is to remember that the information given here is not to supply you with the ultimate truth, but give you an idea of the subject. To provide a view on a subject that can give more awareness and insight, only given from a source of accuracy and precision.


Hephaestus: Will terrorists detonate a nuke on american soil?
R: There wont be any terrorist detonating a nuke on american soil. For a long time there has been activity that could indicate such, but its not really a threat. Have in mind that by making such rumors futher terror is generated to support their cause. By letting their volunteers with minimum security clearance know about plans on such attacks, a rumor is easily created. Should they be captured then they could tell the whole story of some fictionious plan. It would of course involve some planning from the ppl in charge, but it is easily carried out, and so the information is delivered to a noncivilian within the ranks of the group, who will pass on the information in case of capture or persuasion of different kind.

F: good of you to answer these questions
R: your welcome
F: take care
R: take care

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#9
Hello everyone
I will in this post provide a channeling by my guide Jopeha, who found it important to speak on the methods used in getting rid of 'negs'.

The need for a method to get rid of 'negs' or to help them out have long been sought after through the ages of man, but it has often been with terrifying results. It has been with fear and anger, that campaigns have been led to rid them out and create a better life for those affected by such. There has been no regard for the spirit itself, but looked upon as something evil or non-personal. The truth is that these 'negs' or negative spirits hold personality and give up much of their time to reconsile with their own feelings. They are not the fearsome beasts or demons because they attack and induce fear in others. They are poor souls that have not found a way out of their misery and therefore react upon this misery. There is no excuse for these actions, but bear in mind that the spirit is acting upon the suffering that its experiencing, and any way to get out of this suffering would be acceptable for the spirit. The spirit sometimes attack with a wish to establish a contact to the living for a way out, but its often that the living is not capable of helping out and are scared of these attacks. Needless to say there is a miscommunication that lead to fear on both sides, and induces anger in the spirit that is led from the frustration of not being helped and rejected in often cruel ways.
We dont have a way to help these spirits directly as they are on a level of confusion that they must work out on their own, but still they are affected by the help of the guides who work in a subtler way and can not intervene in a brute way. This is why there are people who have brought it upon themselves to help these spirits and find ways in doing so. When such a help occur between a living person and a spirit, there is created a bond of trust between them. It is here that spirit can find reconciliation and move towards new steps in its development. There are no promises of a fair and painless process, as this is a living person that has passed on, but stuck on a plane that bears confusion and misleading thoughts. Now there is no way that a spirit can find reconciliation in being chased away or tried upon its life. Only by opening up towards other possibilities than chasing away or trying to kill, can the spirit find this reconciliation.
We dont ask for people to do this helping, but we do encourage people to think of what they are doing when they do help. We find it a good idea to look upon the methods that is being used and find if they indeed help. Help that extends the living person and this persons needs. There is no reconciliation met if the victim of these attacks is told that the spirit wont be coming back because it has been chased away, as this might just feed ideas indicating a rearrival of this spirit. This is often the case when people have been haunted or attacked for many years, trying every method there is to scare it away or try to drive it out. They dont see that the spirit is only angered and that it dont see a reason why it should leave this place, because it has occupied that space and no person should tell it where to go. There is no reason at all why this spirit shouldnt be able to be helped, as it can be done by approaching it in a nonhostile way. So there is a need to reevaluate the methods being used, if one truly wish to help those who are living and those who are no longer with the living.


Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#10
LittleNinja:
When 2012 comes, i dont think the weak will die off. I think they will live. When Mayatnik said that the service to self will die and the service to others will live, he wasn't refering to the weak or the strong. Mayatnik was refering to those who are willing to help others (i.e. Helping the disabled *hint*hint) and those who only help themselves.

When you say that these things are stated by Mayatnik you also suggest that its because of selfish reasons that its stated. The reason he states this is not of selfish reasons. If you had read in the Reptilian threads in the Communication section, you would see that this subject have been covered by use of channeling by others too and in fact confirming what he states. I have channeled the information, and i am in no way in the need of the help that your implying and the same goes for Mayatnik. I deliver information through channeling with the help of my Pleiadian guide, who makes it possible by providing the telepathic connection as well as confirming the correctness of the relayed information. Also the sources here being the Reptilians confirm to whether its correct, and if they want the channeled information posted. You can read of the channeled information that confirms what Mayatnik says about Service to self and Service to others here:
Channeled information on Service to self and Service to other
If you were to look outside this forum, you would see that Nancy Lieder from zetatalk mentions similar things about Service to self and Service to others.

LittleNinja:
But let us forget about this whole poleshift and/or 2012 thing for now. Who knows if it is real or not. We should just live our everyday lives without worrying about the future and what happens. Live in the present, and learn to change ourselves by living through it and experiencing it. And in that we are evolving, IMO.

As i understand it, this thread was to discuss things regarding 2012. To discuss the poleshift here which by some could be assosiated with 2012 as a precursor, i dont see a problem with either. I dont see how its helpful to just state that we should forget it, as this may be relevant for some people to talk about. The thread should be open to contributions that has something to do with the topic of the thread, and not just closed down because people think it isnt interesting for them or the like. 1Zenryoku makes an excellent point:
so did anyone come here to discuss 2012.

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#11
Hello everyone
Another set of questions to be answered by the Reptilians.

Format:
R: Reptilians speaking
F: Myself (Fuzziwig) speaking
Questions and Qoutes

Conversation:
F: Hello
R: Hi
F: Feel like answering some questions ?
R: You bet
Kuhl: I'm not sure if this has already been mentioend but within the first two posts of channeling there was a discrepency. They said they don't occupy or have never occupied a planet, in the next posts they said they did, had colonies and everything.
R: The posts that you saw contained some details that described our colonization in space, but not on planets. It is true that it was mentioned that we have colony planets, but this was not by us. We dont have any colonies on other planets nor have we had such. There has simply not been a need for such, as we have conducted the experiments we needed from our colonies in space and on our own homeplanet.
Risu no Kairu: I believe you said the Ica Stones were fake. The Zeta say they're genuine.
R: The Zeta were talking from a different source of information hence the difference in answers. The information that we have recieved are from observations and they hold the answers given to you. We havent crossed checked the information with the Zetas given here, and so there might be differences in answers as this is an example of.
Risu no Kairu: The Zeta gave me a different answer on bigfoot. They said bigfoot is a creature that exists but associate with people. Why are your answers different? Why don't the bigfeet (foots?) like us? How advanced are they? What do they call themselves?
R: Like we said in the previous answer, our answers can differ based on different sources of information. Our impression is that the bigfoot/yeti does not exist and therefore the answer that you pose should be asked to the Zeta who has more extensive amount of information on this subject.
Risu no Kairu: Where did the tales of mermaids come from?
R: The tales of the mermaids came from old folklore that described women being able to go deep into the ocean without needing to breathe. This was especially usefull as the fishers that would go out to sea, would sometime be caught in terrible storms and the mermaids would come to their aid and rescue them.
Risu no Kairu: How big do the biggest octopus get in the sea? Squid? What's the largest growing animal in the  sea?
R: The biggest octupus that we know of is as big as 21 meters long and two and half meters high.
Risu no Kairu: Does anything "intelligent" (has technology, even something as simple as beating something with a rock) exist under the sea?
(i relay the thought of "under the sea" as being the ground under the water in the sea)
R: There do exist intelligent life under the sea. For a long time have the species involved in the Earth project occupied socalled outpost which serves as listening posts. The listening posts being used for following the action that happens on planet Earth, to insure the best possible course of action in helping out. The listening would involve the major medias and various communication channels to get a picture of the situation at hand. There wouldnt be any tapped calls or the like on people since this is not the way we operate. It wouldnt serve a purpose, as it doesnt get involved in the plan for planet Earth.
Aries: I have heard the Chinese is in contact with a Alien group that is helping them. Is this true?
R: Its not true. The chinese has like the US government been contacted by alien species in the hope of a relationship, but there hasnt been substantial amount of agreement towards the benifit of the entire people. In other words the men in power in China has grown hungry for power and our influence would increase that. This could not be accepted as a part of the agreement and so the relationship couldnt be established.
Aries: I also heard that China is reaching its max Population and will soon need to expand, I have heard that they may start a War for more territory. Do you know anything about this?
R: China will not start a war based on the growing population. China will maintain its population at a certain level to avoid tension with other countries. This is needed for China to develop at a steady pace in order to go beyond being a country that houses many poor people. The war that allegedly were to be faught was a war on the external sources that wished to influence China in a way, that was against the chinese rule. These external sources being the western countries, with a wish to implement new ideas into the rule of China so a polarization could take place in the world that meant less tension. These new ideas were not welcome by the chinese rule, as they were percieved as a threat, but not reacted upon since too much was at stake in such an agression. The chinese rule reacted in other ways which made it difficult for outsiders to interact in any way. Channels with the outside were shutdown, and never to be activated again in an attempt to decrease the outside influence. China would isolate itself in order to maintain the current government, which held a powerful position in China. By changing these state of affairs, it would move the power into many positions and thereby "weakening" China. This was the excuse for not bending to the outside influences, and also a reason to make the current rule stronger in its positions. So in a way it was both a welcomed influence and a condemned one, because by condeming there was a chance to make the present rule even stronger.
Risu no Kairu: I hear CHina is supporting terrorists... Could you expound on this? Why are they doing it? Who are they supporting?
R: The chinese government is supporting armed groups around the world with intentions of spreading violence. This is because the chinese government wish to have influence beyound its borders, and still remain seemingly passive. The chinese are not involved though in the terrorist groups that you hear of in the news. The groups that are sponsored by the chinese government hold low profile and act only if necessary. This is to insure that the groups remain hidden, and to insure that other countries dont interact with them. The groups are not organized like other groups are, in that they dont know each other in the group. They are seamingly working alone, but are organized by others who play a key role in the acts of the group. The groups are often situated around in major cities, where they can play a key role in affecting the local population, to like or dislike certain issues regarding the nations own viewpoints. This is in fact a way to influence the general population towards supporting views that in some way will support the actions that China wants carried out.
Risu no Kairu: Who did you try to talk to when you approached the US government? Was it the president? Congress? Secret super authorities we (the public) don't know about? Did yo uapproach any other governments?
R: We did not talk to them personally, but a representive for the alien species working on the Earth project was involved in this. It took place with a group of people that represented the US government, and who worked under cover so to speak. This group would carry out the wishes of the country and report back to their superiors to whether a deal was made.
Risu no Kairu: Who would win in a fight: Borg (Star Trek) or the Replicators (Stargate SG-1)? (Serious question. (Seriously.))
R: Niether would win. They would both find better things to do eventually, because of the continuing destruction.
Aries: Do you know of any Alien species here on Earth that is not helping for Human benefit?
R: No, we do not.
Aries: I read that there are Structures on the Moon, and that our Astronuats were told by a Alien species not to go to one area of the moon. Is this true?
R: The structures that you speak of does not exist. There would be no point in placing structures on the moon, as the place holds no advantage to placing anything there. The moon holds large quantities of heavy metals, but are of no use to any alien species.
Aries: Is it true that almost all of our space explorations have been watched by a group of Aliens? I heard that there was no way for the Apollo13 to get back to Earth when it was damaged. Was there any Alien intervention that helped them survive?
R: It is true that all space exploration has been monitored by alien species. Those species also currently working on the Earth project. This space exploration has been of interest because it involves the human development in terms of technology as well as awareness of extraterrestials. The apollo 13 was a case where things went wrong but in the end turned right. There was no alien intervention in this.
Risu no Kairu: the shift into 4D will cause the pole shift? Or will it just be coincidence they occur together?
R: The transition into the 4rd density will happen independently from the poleshift. Futhermore will it happen after the poleshift has occured. The poleshift has nothing to do with the 4rd density shift, but takes place because major changes need to take place before the transition change can take place. There is no denying that the present society is driving the world towards worse conditions in the sense that nature is being mistreated and cannot follow the pace of restoring the balance that is needed for it to grow.
F: we can take some more later
R: okay
F: take care
R: take care

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#12
Hello all
My guide will comment on some of the things in previous post.
Quotes in blue and my guide Jopeha in maroon.

Spectral Dragon you say:
Back to edi's subject for a sec.
Typical new age thinking is spirit=love, goodness, and fluffy bunnies (sorry my humor is wierd too.) Therefore, according to this view, "evil spirits" don't exist. I am seeing a lot of this in this thread, that all spirits external in the astral plane are all good. What I have noticed is that many new agers come from orthodox christian backgrounds. The idea that god is a being that makes all things for a good purpose, and that trying to astral project or do serious meditation will cause you to be yoked with evil demons. A friend of mine for example has avoided astral projection for a long time because he was afraid that it was demonic or he would get involved with demons. They still think that way when going into new age thinking. In order to deal with the nagging doubt that they might be getting involved with demons, they just say that demons and negative psychic forces do not exist. This is not the case. Evil exists because of life's will to exist, and becuase we chose to exist we are not perfect.

The idea that the words as expressed by the guides should have basis in newage thinking is simply not true. The guides have expressed themselves to inform the members of alternate approaches to dealing with 'negs' or negative spirits. The reason we do this, is because of a range of ideas that seems to be focused on slaying and vanquishing the negative spirits, who only wish to be helped out of their misfortune. We dont see a reason to fight these spirits, as they only seek help and are met by this attitude that inflicts them with more anger and suffering. In no way can it be benificial to start a campaign on principals based on destruction and harm on negative spirits, as they too deserve to be treated with the same kind of understanding as the positive spirits. The negative spirits may not have the same benificial approach in seeking contact to gain help, but that shouldnt exclude them from being able to recieve it. Many spirits find themselves in a very difficult position, where they cannot find the outside understanding of their suffering, and they are left to solve their misfurtune on themselves. Not only can this be difficult, but also take a very long time before they are properly healed to reach the next stage in their existance. We dont encourage people to turn the other cheak to the attacks that they are being victims of, as that would only make the attacks go on, till the spirit had reached resolution. We find it a good idea to communicate with the spirit to reach an understanding of the problem that the spirit might have. Only in this instance would it be possible to solve the spirits problem and stop the attacks in the same process. It would be pointless to reach an understanding of the problem without the communication to the spirit, and this is why we encourage people to talk to the spirit and listen to what is said by the spirit. It may not be possible for the person to communicate with the spirit, and this is why it would be a good idea to seek help from others with these abilities so a resolution in the spirit can be made.

I know that the guides are willing to give further insights into these things and so the members are welcome to ask about them, if not through their own guide if such a contact exists.

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#13
Hey everyone
rodentmouse, congratulations on your new discovery. I have answered others questions here in the Spiritual development section before by the use of channeling. Channeling i tend to perform in the Communications section with Edi, who i work with on answering members questions that they might have. We channel two alien species in a joint venture to promote understanding on questions from members as well as on various subjects as they may surface. These two alien species being the Zeta and the Reptilian, who both work on helping mankind in various ways, where giving information to this forum is one of them. The Zeta have expressed a wish to comment on your post, and so I will channel the Zeta here by the help of my guide, who provides the telepathic connection to the Zeta. What the Zeta say is marked in maroon.

Zeta:
The higher self, as you expressed it is an idea of the collective set of incarnations as being a whole, a unity. When talking to the higher self, you are in fact talking to your guide. The guide dont mind being called the higher self or other things called, as long as the message is put across. The message is often the individuals questions but also the right guidance towards the individuals growth. There is a fine line between recieving the messages from ones guide and thinking them up for yourself, and this is why the guides have several precautions towards this. The individual is often influenced by their surrounding, which creates a template to stir the answers in a certain direction that fits with the individuals own ideas created at the time. There is no way that the guides would find this form of communcations accurate, and that is why the individual must first learn to recieve the answers without the conditions that follows in the individuals mind. Being open and expect any answer regardless of the nature of that answer. It might not allways be the comfortable answer that fits the individuals believes, but its by this openness that the true answers can be found. Regardless of the bias that can lie in the answer, it is possible to recieve the accurate answers to help the individual on his/her path.


If you feel you have further questions about this subject or others, then your very welcome to pose them in the Zeta communications thread.

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig


-Edited to add the word 'before' in intro
#14
My guide and I are very pleased that the advice we gave has helped your girlfriend taom1234. As you mentioned, the receptiveness and being open can help in making a turnaround for the better. Infact the help that was provided could never have worked without the individual being receptive and open towards being helped in this illness. Taom1234 i wish you and your girlfriend the best, and like bluelite said its allways a pleasure to help others on their spritual journey.

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#15
Hello everyone
Its good to see so many constructive inputs. My guide and I would like to comment on some of the previous posts.
Qoutes in blue, and
my guide Jopeha in maroon

SpectralDragon you say:
This is a channelling I am putting out with my Guide and guardian, a pheonix called Kereen.
"fear leads to fear, this is the problem with this place at this particular moment, nothing more, nothing less. It is entirely possible to be possessed by a neg or demon, but the chances of this happening are "slim to none," and at most only about 20 or so people should be possessed in the world. Other psychic problems caused by people practicing magic and other arts are a different story altogether.
As far as lesser negs go they are too weak for the strong human soul to conquer. You should not fear these entities. They are made simply to survive."

What you speak of Kereen, is an understanding of demons as being creatures that cause pain in the form of possession or by haunting ppl. These demons are not the beings that exists in the world, but spirits who wish to gain passage to their home. This home being the place you would call heaven or simply the higher levels of vibration, on which spirits can thrive and be happy. A spirit seldom attacks a person for the mere fun of it. There is a reason behind the attacks, and these are signs of wanting to be helped. A cry out for help that people ignore, because they see themselves frightened and misunderstanding. No blame is put on these people for acting that way, but it is worth noting that the reason for coming to the stage of understanding, is by experiencing the will of the spirit. Understand that it basically wants help, allthough in a sometimes akward way. The spirits at this level dont think that they are doing wrong, but they want to interact in ways with others to sort out their problem. Not to say that their ways are 'rightious' or particularly constructive, but as they dont see a way out of their mess, they tend to do what they can and not allways with the best outcome. A spirit wants out of its trouble, out of its problem and by gaining the help from others it might just happen. The help provided is done in various ways, but by attacking the spirit you only make matters worse. If not for you, then for the spirit whos gained even more problems to deal with and acts as a result on this, in the same unhelpfull way as described before.

Kereen:
"readers must keep in mind that any subtle thing you hear from a guide, especially the differences in statement, makes a difference.
I have stated something very close to what edi's guide has said. But the fact is that though some changes are necessary to avoid future people becoming confused, this has not happened on the scale that is suggested. There is no need to say things that demean a place of learning that has done much people good. Everyone should consider the people who have come here for help as people who are still learning and who are scared and try to find out if they are simply just scared or it they genuinely need help.
As stated before, actual demons are rare, but cases of humans attacking humans are increasing. I see through the eyes of this one that many like to label such things as what you call "thought forms," when a good amount of them simply cannot be."

Kareen, i see that you have expressed a will to speak about demeaning a learning place. I would agree with you that it isnt a good idea to tear down a place that holds great knowledge which can benifit individuals. However should the great knowledge be in a state that could be misleading, then it would be a good idea to add corrections towards the aim of correcting this great knowledge to not being misleading. As this correction takes place, bringing people to understand the realness of the misunderstanding, so that they may learn from these mistakes and move towards a better way.

Dark Knight you say:
Why all the focus on negativity? I think that depends on your definition of negative. Why no displays of positive? I guess that depends on your definition of positive too.
The focus you refer to is because the positive is often overlooked, as the feeling of negative can feel overwhelming and uncomfortable. The feeling makes the individual uncomfortable, and therefore the focus lies on removing this uncomfortable feeling. When this happens there is created a focus on the feeling, and this is the main reason it may seem overfocused. The positive is not to be overlooked. When i say this, i mean that the positive is important in the lives of beings as well as spirits passed on. When the positive has taken place in an individual, it can be hard to express it, because it feels so good and why mention something when its not a problem. Im not saying there is a need to express the positive, but merely pointing out the reasons for this lack of focus on the positive.

Why acknowledge it, why not "be positive" at any cost? Because there are no substitutions for emotions. Same way you can't replace any emotion with alcohol or drugs or food or shopping, you can't avoid fear by "be positive" at any cost attitude. It's a block...looks, walks, quacks, is a duck.
I totally agree with you that we shouldnt be positive at all costs. I think that we can develop in ways though to become more positive. Sometimes through good times and sometimes through bad times.

Oh but then comes the problem...like I said, you can't reach out to help others without acknowledging fear is there...or that we can be overwhelmed by something. And a good chunk of you don't wanna hear it. Suffering or any insinuation of being overpowered should stay in a closet some place and any acknowledgement of fear's existence is seen by you as a negative attitude. And those of you out there responsible for this mentality neither recognize nor take ownership for the blockage in energy you create. Energy flows where the focus goes, and when a block forms, focus is gonna go directly to that blockage...and on the a**hole to blame for trying to keep it in place. And that focus won't leave until the blockage is removed, in fact if anything, it will intensify. And when you try to shift the blame off of yourselves by telling the angry person how negative and lacking in personal responsibility they are...
I dont think that its a good thing to keep any pain or suffering in the closet. Offcourse each thing in its time. Meaning that its an excellent idea to open up towards others and solve problems together. Others that are open towards what is said and where comfort can be found. Its by help and sharing of experience that helps the individual through these tough problems, memories of pain and suffering.

Do you really believe you have the right to block others to keep yourselves safe from moving through and confronting fear? Who really has the negative attitude here? The ones on this forum who keep claiming to have positive attitudes put all their focus and energy into ignoring the compassion and understanding that those suffering from attacks tried to give each other, but you put a lot of energy into trying to deny that a person can be overwhelmed to the point of breaking, bleeding, or dying...lord knows keeping your own hides safe took priority above all. Hey but there's no negativity or fear on your part when you do that now, is there?
What i see is people trying to help each other, by sharing ideas, advice and experiences. I dont see any experiences being blocked by others (give me a qoute where you think it happens, if you can point it out, so we can learn from this too). Experiences are put here and people are free to comment on those, as it should be. I have given you response on some of the things you have previously written as i do now, to give you some input that you might find usefull. I do this in the interest of helping, trying to understand and yes learn something too.

As i write this post i see that taom1234 has posted on this thread. My guide and I are very pleased that the advice we gave in the previous post has helped your girlfriend taom1234. As you mentioned, the receptiveness and being open can help in making a turnaround for the better. Infact the help that was provided could never have worked without the individual being receptive and open towards being helped in this illness. By exposing this thoughtform to information, it could no longer serve the purpose of being a hinder for the person. Taom1234 i wish your girlfriend the best, and i hope that the advice by my guide and I combined with you and your girlfriends experience, can give recovery to others with similar illnesses too.

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig


-Edited to correct a spelling error and refer to the advice
#16
Hello everyone
I, as Edi have contact with my guide, who helps me in my development and in helping others. My guide Jopeha and I communicate through telepathy and that has led to work with channeling information. I havent had use of psychic selfdefence or similar myself, allthough i have worked quite a bit with rescuing spirits in many ways. Recently my guide has shown an interest in channeling information regarding psychic selfdefence, and so a piece of channeling done by me and my guide, will follow when i have commented with my guide on the previous posts.
Qoutes are marked in blue
My guide Jopeha is marked in maroon

Nay, you say:
(in reference to Dark Knights post)
"I know what I want to say, of course....I can't.. but I have one question, does Maya know that you posted a conversation that he thought was between just you two? If he did..wonderful, if not..how totally rude and disrespectful of you."
Mayatnik is currently moving to another house, and as such he can not speak on allegations made towards him in this time of moving. I know for a fact that Mayatnik didnt know of the conversation being posted untill they were posted, as i spoke to him on this matter. He has agreed to be qouted here from a conversation i had with him on msn on Dark Knights posting of the conversation.
Mayatnik says:
"I had no idea whatsoever.  James S had contacted me just after that conversation had taken place and he told me he'd been PM'd by Dark Knight, who'd sent him a copy of that conversation that night.   James S told me he'd sent a rather brief PM to Dark Knight in response saying that I was completely trustworthy and he told me that there were clear indications of paranoia in her reaction
I was merely commenting on her 'balanced' input to the forum in that particular post, and then she brought up issues in the conversation which led into me giving her   counselling - so it was sad that she suddenly blocked me, but that was her choice and I can only help if people want to talk, and her fear controlled her in that.
As for the publishing of that conversation, I have nothing to hide but it is not done to publish private conversations without permission.... and I think Nay expressed that well about DK's action there."

I have the relevant transcript of that conversation between Mayatnik and James S (that Mayatnik has just mentioned) but the actual conversation is of course private, a fact that Dark Knight does not seem to uphold.

Dark Knight you say:
"I've had just about enough of this. THis is a conversation Mayatnik had with me at the end of December 2003"
You post a personal conversation afterwards that has to do with some of your personal issues.  I dont see the relevance in what you present here on a thread as topiced : "What's wrong with Psychic Self Defence?". I understand that you want to write about this, but maybe another thread would be more suited for what you present.

"If what Mayatnik says here is true, then guides will do anything, break any boundary to teach you a lesson. I cannot and will not believe that, it goes against everything I ever was taught about guides...before all this crap happened to me."
What Mayatnik is trying to tell is that the guides have a plan for each individual, and from that plan acts are carried out by the guides. The guides follow that plan to ensure the well being of the individual, as well as the best possible development. When it happens that an individual is in a need for help, its provided as much as possible but still in accordance to the plan. If the plan is not followed by the guides, then the lessons in life are not initiated properly to the individual, which would cause the individual to miss out on lessons. This would mean that the lessons in life are not properly met, and as such the life the individual would live would be incomplete.

"I'm seeing too much crap of people pulling into themselves instead of reaching out to others."
The pulling you see is an expression of ppl being afraid of whats around them. They find that the immediate surroundings are too much for them to cope with, and so they hide within themselves.

"People on this site only want to give so much than get upset and whiney when it isn't enough, as if people should be gracious you gave so little while you're bleeding to death (as if it were your hides on the line)."
As my guide said, ppl that cant cope with their surroundings hide within themselves and offcourse some will try to extend their arm to reach whatever help they can get. I take it that you refer yourself as "bleeding to death", and if that is the case, im so sorry to hear that. You have your free will to use, and choose whether you want to give to others. I know that ppl may seem ungratefull for the help they recieve, but its by looking at the change in them that you see the benifits of that help given. That, in a way can be the appreciation for you, that is shown in the acts of the person. Ppl may not be strong enough or maybe too proud to be gratefull for the help they recieved. What matters is the change that we can make by helping each other out in many ways, and learn from each other.

"The only one that knows your best interest is you, you are the expert on your own experience. Any positive entity guide will say that. I'm suspicious of the ones that don't (especially the ones that choose to be deliberately vague...vagueness can lead to circular arguments and you can justify just about any action without consequence)."
The guides are often those who know the individual best, as they have access to the knowledge both conciouss and subconcious in the individual. When the individual experience something, a connection is created that combines the existing memories and the new ones, so as to create the illusion of a coherent life. When this happens, those same memories are stored in a database of a sort. This database is the one you know as the Akhasic records and stores all memories of living beings. The Akhasic record is used by the guides to establish a course of action in the individuals development to help the best way possible.

"I am doing great! Something interesting happened the other night and it has improved my situation dramatically (along with Spectral Dragon's Help)."
"All in all, I feel great and positive about the future for the first time in a long time."
Im glad to hear that your doing better, and i wish you the very best in the future.

Blackstream, I noticed that you made a post, but later edited it.
Here is what you wrote:
"I'm curious, why did you put this post here DK? This post is about whether or not Psychic Self Defence is more harmful than good. Are you trying to say that because he got his info from a guide that it should be discounted? Because otherwise this is a bit offtopic and should be in its own post"
You changed that post to :
"EDIT: Never mind"
The post you made stated your opinion, which is the right of all the members at the Astral Pulse. When you later edited the post to something like "never mind", you changed your opinion (which is as valid as anyone elses) to something unhelpfull. So what i would like to hear from you is, why you altered it ? Were you persuaded to alter your post by others ? What ever your reasons are, then i think that no voice should be held back or forced upon by others will. Its a free will world, and it should let us express ourselves without the restrictions of others. So i welcome your contribution as well as others to a constructive and open minded dialog.

taom1234 says:
"how can one remove a subconscious spell cast upon them in their time of innocence when at that particular time in their lives they had no real means of knowledge for dealing with the outcome"
The guides can usually not intervene without the consent of the person asking for the advice (this is mentioned too in Mayatniks conversation at page 1 ). Since this advice is for your girlfriend,  its adviced that she follows this thread and reads the advice. She is the one being healed from this spell, and so she must have a wish to be healed herself.
The spell that you speak of is something that can easily removed, because its a mere thoughtform that reacts upon new impressions. The impressions will remove the thoughtform and make sure that it doesnt return. The thoughtform consist of thoughts that hinder the individual in various things, but common for them are that they can be removed by exposing them to certain kind of information. Information that makes sure that the thoughtform is not needed anymore.
In the light of this, it would be benificial for her to gain such information. The information that could help her in this, would be channeled information as recieved by the help of the guides to make sure its accuracy and correctness.
This channeled information could come from many websites that claim they have such channneled information, however accuracy is of the essence when channeling and this is not allways the case with these websites.
I would recommend the channeling threads in the Communications section that Edi and myself are channeling at. We channel information through our Pleiadian guides who provide a telepathic connection to two alien species called the Zeta and the Reptilians. These being two species who work in joint venture in helping individuals on their own path to find the answers for themselves. They do this by providing answers to questions on any subject that the members might find interesting.

Channeling on psychic selfdefence provided by my guide:
The spirits that exists in the world today, has long been the subject of fear and misunderstanding. The spirit in itself is not a frightfull beast, but as it manifest itself through the use of energy that is sucked from its surrounding then it can become the subject of fear. When a manifestation like this takes place then its a clear indication that there is a need for help. A need for help that can be hard to deal with, when your surrounding are affected by these manifestations.
The ancient civilizations had these problems too, but instead of scaring the spirits away they would sit down and talk to the spirit and find out the problem, as to solve it. They didnt allways understand these spirits, but they expressed a will to understand, and that was sometimes enough to help the spirit on its way. There would be a wish to help the deceased beings, now spirits on the other side, because they knew that they would be in the same position one day, and such an understanding that they expressed, was much the same as the one they wanted to be met with as they crossed over. So by putting him/herself in the spirits shoes so to speak, there could be a constructive process of helping the spirit on the other side. Not only was this a way for the old people to know the afterlife, but also for young ones to gain an understanding of the afterlife, which they didnt know when they would meet.
When a conversation could be initiated with the spirit, there would often be a group of ppl that would listen as it happened and learn from these conversations. Not all could hear the spirits, and so the word was carried from the listeners to the non-listeners. Eventually they would gain the second sight and communicate with the spirits as well and create friendships, because the spirits would be in touch with nature. The nature was very important for some of these ancient civilizations, because the ppl in them yearned after a balance with everything. To gain the understanding of harmony was to gain understanding of nature, and by this idea they would explore and find out ways upon improvement.
The spirits were a part of that balance in nature which made sure, that they could be safe from harm in nature. So by understanding and helping the spirits, they would help themselves, and recieve help from the spirits in protection as well as guidance. The better the relationship could be, the better the balance with nature would be. This was the attitude of these ppl, and it took them far in spiritual development. They would seek out the problems that occured, and solve them often with the help of the spirits, but allways with a thought of returning the favor if that should be necessary. By a mutual understanding, much wisdom was made and an advanced civilization could be build on such a foundation. It developed in a steady pace where the individual could develop in a harmonious way without fear of spirits.


This shows me yet again, that fear is limiting to oneself, and creates negativity towards the feared. Negativity that not only takes it out on the possesor, but also his/her surroundings. By being open minded and tolerant, there is a truly a chance to walk on our path without the concreteblocks on our feet. Be light as a feather and become more than ever thought possible.

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#17
Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / talking to guides
January 28, 2004, 23:02:55
Hey everyone
harlequin_star, I can understand that you are frustrated over the lack of information exchange. I know this personally from my own Pleiadian guide who also keeps information from me, but for a reason. I usually channel in the Communications section with Edi on a joint venture with two alien species, who are known as the Reptilians and the Zeta. These two species being willing to help with answering members questions in respectively the Reptilian and Zeta Communications threads. I will however in this case let the Zeta comment on your question here, as they have expressed an interest in doing so, and because it might give you some insights in why she wont give her name. I will channel this comment by the help of my guide, who will provide a telepathic connection to the Zeta.

Zeta:
The guides have a plan for each individual, and its this plan that decides what the individual needs. It is by this plan that the guides decide the way the individual should be influenced and helped. When the guides find that the individual is ready for the personal information about the guide, that is in charge of the development of the individual, they give it to him/her. This applies for any information that is passed on to the individual, and it makes sure that the individual recieves the information that is best suited for his/her development. The guides will under any circumstance find themselves following the rules that follow their job, and one of those rules describes the importance of allways following that individual plan. So even though a guide may be tempted to reveal its name, then it might not be in accordance to the plan of the individual.


If you feel you have further questions about this subject or others, then your very welcome to pose them in the Zeta communications thread.

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#18
Hello everyone
Another set of questions to be answered by the Reptilians.

Format:
R: Reptilians speaking
F: Myself (Fuzziwig) speaking
Questions and Qoutes

Conversation:
F: Hello
R: Hi
F: ready for some questions ?
R: we are
Ghostrider: I thought the Zeta worked for the Reps?
R: We dont have any Zeta working for us. The way it works is that we work together in a relationship to improve the lives of many beings. This may not allways be on the Planet Earth, since we have many other projects with the Zeta running on other planets. There is a misunderstanding based on that the alien species should have a hierarchy, which holds resemblance to the conditions on planet Earth. This is however not the case, as we work together but on different levels and that involves different tasks. The tasks are commonly suited for some species over others, because of the knowledge they bear on a specific task. That means that the Zeta might have many more tasks than us, as they are far more evolved than we are. That does not mean that they are more important or have more power than us.
It just means that the Zeta has grown to a stage, where they can perform a larger variety of tasks.

Ghostrider: Is the US government working with any Alien Species? If so do you know what there agenda is?
R: The US government is not working with any alien species at the moment. The US government was contacted several times by alien species in the hope of a cooperation with them. However this was not possible based on the motives that lied behind the US governments actions. The relationship that could have existed, would hopefully have brought some understanding to the species and their job on the Earth project, as well as brought understanding about the condition of the globe. That would mean that  a constructive work towards a more harmonious planet without war, could take place. The potential was there and still is, but its the corruptive nature of power that shows its face, when an offer like this comes along. We cant help a government that thinks like that, and so there can be no relationship between us. This offcourse also goes for the other species who work on the Earth project, as they have the same aim to help. When the US government has realized that the power they gain with a relationship with us, is not something that should be used for selfish purposes, then there might be a chance for a relationship. When the time comes and the relationship can exist, then there will be conditions met in order to recieve our help. There wont be a relationship with a population that suffers from the consequenses of such a relationship. This is why there are conditions that should be met, and why there can only be talk of it, when the guides have accepted such a relationship. This is to ensure the wellfare of the population, and also make sure that the leaders in the government dont bend any rules or have alternative motives. The US government knows these things, yet they wish to go on their current path. We respect their decision, but we think that things could have been different in a better way. The need for help is there, but not by those who are in power and that is part of the problem, as the leaders with power wishes to promote their own power instead of doing good for the ppl. Its not all politicians who are like this, but it is a trend that has influenced many governments and as a result caused an increasing rate of corruption. When such a reaction can stem from a wish to help, then its necessary to be very carefull. This is the reason, that there can be talk of help, when it has be thoroughly examined by the alien species on the Earth project as well as the guides.
Ghostrider: My next question would be, are the reptiles influencing the evolution of the indigo children here on Earth, have they in the past, will they continue to in the future and what manner of influence  do they exert (if any) over this phenomenom.
R: We dont influence the evolution of the indigo children, nor do we have anything to do with it.
Hephaestus: During your time in 3rd density what type of star was your sun? eg. red dwarf? yellow? red giant?
R: Our sun was a huge white star.
Hephaestus: How many planets were in your solar system?
R: There were 4 planets in our solar system.
Hephaestus: In earth years how long ago did your species and solar system ascend to the 4th density?
R: We ascended with the same time interval as you shall.
F: Futher on those intervals can be read on your channeling on page 5, correct ?
R: Yes, there are some details regarding those time intervals there.
Hephaestus: How many moons if any did your homeworld have?
R: we had two moons.
Hephaestus: When our solar system ascends to the 4th density will our planet Jupiter become a star?
R: It will not become a star, no.
no_leaf_clover: What are the odds of a nuclear war here before Nibiru arrives?
R: The chances of a nuclear war is not big. There is a group of individuals working on the Earth project that oversees these things. They make sure that they dont happen on a global scale, so as to destroy the whole human species. This is not allowed and will be prevented if it should happen. Whether it will happen is never for sure, and should it happen then there will be intervention. Not intervention that would be visible to show that aliens existed, but the rockets with the warheads would explode, where they shouldnt or simply malfunction. The last would often be the case, because there would be an interest from the helping species to never let the rocket explode causing harm elsewhere.
no_leaf_clover: Was the Cold War agreed upon by the US and Russian governments to occupy public interest after WW2?
R: Both parties never agreed on the Cold War. It was something that was set in motion by the countries on a common fear of the other side. They kept trying to match each others weapons arsenal and tactical superiority, and as a result of that they spended much money and effort on these things. You could argue that by enforcing your armies and increasing the opportunities to make war, that you agree to make one. This is something completely different from making a warpact or engaging in actual warfare with each other, so we dont consider the Cold War to be agreed upon.
no_leaf_clover: If it is possible for nuclear war occur, and it was clear nukes were about to be launched and casualties would be in the millions, would there be any extraterrestrial intervention or would we be left to our own problems?
R: This would depend on the amount of millions. If the amount of millions covered the worlds population, then there would be intervention (see previous answer). In other instances there would be no intervention, because the humans would learn from these atrocities.
Risu no Kairu: Are there any subjects we haven't brought up yet that you think we should inquire about?
R: We would suggest that you ask questions about the chinese involvement in an continuing armament of the groups that perform acts of violence around the world. Also we would suggest that you ask how the alien species have been initiated into helping on grander plans, and how it takes place. Then you could ask why the alien species are allowed to help. There are other subjects, but we think this will suffice for now.
F: you can fill us in, on going if you feel there are subject that needs attention ?
R: indeed we can
F: great [:)]
F: well I think we will end for now. Thank you for answering
R: your welcome
F: take care [:)]
R: and you

Till next time.

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#19
Hello everyone
I saw this interesting thread and thought i would give my input on it. I myself have a Pleiadian guide, and im quite content with the development that has followed, since I came in contact with her through telepathy. It has lead to many things, and as a result im now channeling information for answering questions that members might have in the Communications section. Its a joint venture with two alien species called the Zeta and the Reptilians, that allows myself and another channeler Edi to give input through channeling on various subjects of the members choosing. Also channeled information is provided from Mayatnik, whos currently channeling for the Pleiadians on the Reptilian Communication thread giving background information, which the Reptilians add futher information onto through my channelings. This is to give certain subjects further depth and understanding. I will let the Zeta comment on your question General Army, because they have expressed an interest in doing so and because its a very relevant question. I will do so by the help of my guide, who will provide a telepathic connection to the Zeta. Heres what they had to say.

Zeta:
Guides are higher beings who wish to assist the individual in his/her personal development. It is by the communication with the guide that an active process can take place, which enables the individual to draw from a before unknown source of information. The source capable of providing vast amounts of knowledge on the subjects that the individual might want to know about. This access mean that the individual can develop not only in the knowledge about the beings that are assisting the individual, but know about the importance of learning. A learning that goes on through life in an attempt to learn lessons from it. Lessons that can be extracted from the various situations the individual is experiencing. The individual will by the help of a guide go through these situation with a guidance that means that the individual can be prepared for hardship and failure, but even better can be helped and comforted through these hard times. It doesnt mean that life will be easy, but it means that the individual will be better equiped for these situations and learn from them easier, so to gain knowledge about these kinds of situations. The guide will in overall provide for the guidance and comfort for the individual so he/she can develop both spiritually and intellectualy.

That was it, and should you have further questions for them, then your welcome to pose them in the Zeta Communications thread.

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#20
Tony M:
You say: Through personal experience I know that nothing is what it seems and as long you "fabricate" your story right, you can "come up" with something very credible.
As a fellow channeler to Mayatnik, i can say that we dont fabricate a story to come up with something credible. It would simply be a waste of time for me to fabricate such stories, as well as alot of headache to keep having track of all the information that is posted in the Communications Thread. I and Edi are giving a chance for members to get information on practically anything they should pose questions about in respectively the Reptilian thread and the Zeta thread. Fabricating stories covering practically anything is pretty hard to do, but i guess not impossible, only for me it would be. The information delivered by us is not fabricated and ppl can with their common sense and intuition decide what they think of it, like yourself and this is perfectly allright.

The AlphaOmega:
You say: What is the big deal with 2012? I've heard demon wars and other wars, etc., but why does ANYONE really believe this is going to happen? Has there been a flood of spychics talking about this year? Some new book come out? Why does everyone think this year is significant right now?

The questions are well put ones, and so normally i would have answered this in the Communications section. I will let the Zeta comment on your questions through the use of channeling. A channeling that happens by the use of my Pleiadian guide who provide the telepathic hook-up to the Zeta.

Zeta:
The year 2012 wont be a year of any Demon war or the like. The ancient texts speak of such wars on the background of their writers believes in the evil taking over the world, because of its corrupt and decadent way of becoming. It was an observation of the worlds population that lead to the texts of such a war. The demons should supposely come and spread terror on the existing chaos that was present, and cover the world in darkness. The war would mean that all humans would succumb to these demons, and that there would be a rule of evil. There would be a struggle at first, but as these demons would come in by the many, the humans would finally die. The story is a dark one, and not at all true. While some may choose to believe in this tale, then its far from likely that such a war should take place. The humans have their free will to decide whether they want 'demons' around. Spirits that are confused and frustrated to be in these lower levels of vibration and deep down want to return to a higher place. A place they can call home. It is not wonder that ppl have feared them, but it is a growing understanding of what they are, that allows for us to help them. It is not by fear that we help these spirits, but by love and understanding.
The 2012 wil bring about changes to the world as we know it. The society that exists at the present time will not live to see another day after the poleshift. That means that there will be room for another society after this, and so there will be build such a society but on other ideas. It will be a society that allows for ppl to live in harmony, and think about their spiritual development with out care about wealth or survival. It will be in the interest for ppl to live in such a society and so we provide for such a development to take place. This is our place to do so as according to the plan for the Earth project. We dont find it necessary to discuss this further, as there will be rich opportunity to discuss these matters in our Zeta Communications thread where questions can be posed.

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#21
Hello everyone
Interesting posts since i last posted. A post by Mayatnik about looking for information outside the conventional bookshelf. I might have to expand my own [;)]. Before I proceed with the answering of questions i have some words to share. These words are comments below for a member, but also for other members to read, since i speak on their behalf and also direct some comments to them.

Comments to Xander:
(Reference : first post by Xander on page 5 )

You say: What is wrong with you sheople that you need some reptilian messiah?
If your refering to me as being a Reptilian messiah, then your mistaken. A messiah i interpret as being a leader of some hope or cause (here being the Reptilian). Im not a Reptilian leader or leader of their cause. If you read the first post in the thread, you would know what my purpose was with this thread. Also I havent one place in this thread seen anything indicating such a need for a Reptilian messiah.

Further you write :
"save us! save us!" you cry out as god lumbers by,
"Save yer selves! I'm outta here!" he says as he flips his children the bird.


First of all this is not a place for making claims towards other members (read the header in the first post of this thread). That aside, if your going to make claims that members have actually posted that they wanted to be saved or indicating it, i expect you to atleast argument for that case if you want to be taken seriously. Nowhere have i seen anything remotely indicating what you claim.
On the 2 upper cases i speak for other members as well, and should you feel that you disagree, your welcome to correct me if this is the case.

Next You say : I don't beleive the space lizards have anything worth listening too.
I respect your opinion, but i dont see why you spend time on this thread then. Futher you post questions from which i take it, you want answers to. Why post questions if the answers are not worth listening to ? I channel the answers to questions that members have, but if a member tells that the questions they post are not even worth for them to listen to, then i dont see a reason why i should answer that members questions. Some of your questions will be answered though in this post, regardless of the nature of them. It will be done because other members may have an interest in those questions being answered, and the same will go for futher posts with questions you might have.

Lastly you write in a question: Why the lie that humans don't need meat when science has proven tinme and time again that high protein diets are what helped humans evolved?
I have never channeled anything about eating meat yet and this was also mentioned in a comment for No_Leaf_Clover page 3. I will not be held responsible for things i have not channeled here, but members are welcome to post questions about these things. So I would appreciate if these kinds of assumptions are not made in future questions. This 'lie' mentioned in the question cannot have anything to do with something i have channeled, simply because i havent channeled about the subject yet.

That being said, i will move on to channel the Reptilians in giving answers to members questions.

Format:
R: Reptilians speaking
F: Myself (Fuzziwig) speaking
Questions and Qoutes

Conversation:
F: Hello
R: Hi there
F: so are you ready for another set of questions
R: we are
F: [:)] good
CaptainRainbowLove: I would also be interested to know why they want to communicate with us. It is to teach us something?
F: This is mentioned in the previous 1st Reptilian channeling at page 1 , correct ?
R: yes correct
Xander: What's in it for YOU?
F: This is mentioned in the Reptilian channeling at page 5, right ?
R: yes
Arthelion: Do you like dancing?
R: no not really, but we do listen to music once in a while and enjoy it very much.
Xander: Why the lie that humans don't need meat when science has proven tinme and time again that high protein diets are what helped humans evolved?
F: Do humans need meat to survive ?
R: No, humans can live of strictly vegetarian diet and live normally.
F: did high protein help humans to evolve ?
R: The high protein has helped ppl in surviving but not in evolving.
Xander: What are you doing about your factions who are said to be commiting crimes against humanity?
F: This is mentioned in 2nd Reptilian channeling at page 1, correct ?
R: correct
Xander: Do you lay your eggs in sand, water, mud or your own feces as certain reptiles do.
R: we dont procreate through eggs and therefore its not needed with those methods you mention.
Xander: What is your attitude towards humans who refuse to bow their necks before your jackboots?
R: We dont require for humans to bow their necks before our jackboots.
Xander: How do you feel about ceratin economic philosophies such as capitalism, communism, nazism, fascism, etc?
R: We think that these ways of thinking has been a necesarry process for ppl to learn various aspects of themselves. Human history will forever remember these ways of thinking and what they bring about.
Arthelion: How to get on with people who seem really bad in their nature? I mean they're greedy, selfish, have all the bad characteristics, try to do anything to complicate your life etc... I'm talking about one of our teachers at school. I try (and mostly succeed) to get on with most people well but those who don't even want to talk about themselves because they think they're just perfect... I know that evil is best defeated by love, but in some cases it's really impossible. I hope you know what I mean.
R: We know of the situation that you speak of. Its not easy in coping with ppl that are so stuck on their ideas on what they expect from other ppl. Often these expectations are far from reasonable to demand from others, and as a result they bring frustrations in those whos being demanded these things. A realistic way to cope with the problem is to let the teacher in this case, know of these unrealitic expectations that are held towards oneself or the class, if its a general problem. If the teacher is not receptive towards these well formulated suggestions that are expressed in a positive way, then you might want to get your parents to back your case up and let them act on this.
Arthelion: What would you suggest a student to study?
R: We would suggest that the student chooses his studies based on interest and intuition. A choice that is based on the personal needs of the student, and not what other think may be for the best of the student. Others may have some good ideas for the student to consider, and so the student can evaluate whether this is something he/she wants. The student shouldnt be forced into something that he/she basically is a against. The suggestions that we would make, would depend on the school the student were attending.
F: we last time had a bit about ascension in density. Some questions about that.
R: lets see
Risu no Kairu: People who choose to help others... will they go somewhere else physical? 3D?
R: Ppl who choose to be Service to other or you could call them 'People who choose to help others' will go to the next level in density. This being the 4th density level for mankind. As this ascension passes the 'People who choose to help others' will be affected by this and ascend with the Planet Earth. As for the rest who didnt choose this path, they will simply die and incarnate again in 3rd density level, but in another place than Planet Earth.
Aries: Does the United States Government support the Rogue group of Reps here on Earth. If so do you have any idea as to what they are planning on doing with the General populations of the US?
R: The rogue groups or factions as we call them, do not have a relationship with the US goverment.
Arthelion: You've talked about high-density beings, but what do 2D and 1D beings look like? Are they something like animals or bacteria?
R: The 2 first dimension have long been inhabitat by beings that havent evolved to intelligent life. You could call these beings animals, but they are just part of the natural balance, that must exist for other beings to live where they do as well. The beings at these 2 density levels are usually unaware of other beings at higher levels, but in the case where they have to live in a shared enviroment with higher level beings, changes are made so that they can see each other.
F: This change, being a change of perception in the beings ?
R: Yes its a change of perception.
Van-Stolin: Did the Mayan's accurately predict when the Earth would be in the photon belt?
R: They did indeed. Their calendar was based on cyclic thinking and this brought them to this discovery. They had for many years tried to figure out how ppl were affected by the photonband, and they found it to be happening on certain periods of time. Periods of time that matched the calender they had made and so they found a pattern in these affection of the photonband. It was with the help of numerous observation that they came to this conclusion involving study of mans nature and the change within him. By studying the affection they learned that the involvement extended beyond more than the behaviour of man. A subtle change that altered the very nature of man, and made him more capable of developing himself.
Hephaestus: Who built the Pyramids at Giza?
R: The Zeta built the Pyramids of Giza.
Hephaestus: Why do the shafts in the pyramids point to Orions belt? and the star Sirius?
R: The shafts do this because the ancient egyptians found it necessary to carve them in order for the pharao to return to the stars. The pyramids were allready there as the egyptians took them in possesion and started carving in them. They saw that the alignment of the pyramids matched the constellation of Orion, and saw this as a sign for something being divine. By making a shaft that pointed towards this divine, there was a chance for the pharao to reach this divine.
Hephaestus: Why are the pyramids at Giza layed out on the ground in the exact same formation of orions belt?
R: we do not know, but you can ask the Zeta as they built them.
Arthelion: Is the book Thiaoouba prophesy true? If it is, then it's one of the best books to read. It talks about an incarnation of 9th density being on Earth as Christ, the continent of Mu, Atlantis and much more of Earth's history. Otherwise it could be a nice science fiction, which I hope it's not
R: No, its not true
Arthelion: What knowledge will be important after the pole shift?
R: Knowledge about survival and how to live on your own in the wilderness. Also a knowledge about how nature works within its own balance so a respect can exist towards nature. Besides these things, then it would be a good thing to know about how to act and behave towards other ppl. There will be a need for ppl to settle down and be kind towards each other in this very difficult time.
F: well i think thats it for this time
R: okay
F: take care
R: take care

Till next time.

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig


- Edited to correct 2 spelling errors.
#22
Hello everyone

Its an interesting thread indeed. I thought i would like to make some comments.

1Zenryoku, you mention that Mayatnik is creepy smart. What do you associate with being creepy smart ? Mayatnik is as we know a Channeler relaying information from the Pleiadians. Information that may seem overwhelming to some, and maybe even seem creepy in it being unknown. What it does is to leave room for discussion and further questions to gain an understanding in these unknown things. The links that he has provided allows for exploration in these unknown things, and allows for members to evaluate and even get other views on the same subject they are exploring in this very forum from other members, but also through the channeling threads in the Communications section.

I myself am a channeler, having been trained, and I am currently channeling in my own thread in the Communications section of this Prophecy and Divination forum (Edi has a similar channeling thread). In my channeling thread i relay information through my Pleiadian guide from the Reptilians who may to some seem creepy, because they are surrounded by mystery and the unknown. What they do is to give us a chance to learn about them, discuss the information they provide and pose further questions to them, to gain an understanding in unknown things regarding them and in general. Such is it also with the channeling thread with the Zetas as relayed through Edi and his Pleiadian guide. The Zeta give the same chance for trying out ideas and evaluating the information with common sense instead of demanding blind faith.

To conclude this, I being a channeler talk to the Reptilians every day and I dont find that creepy, nor do Mayatnik or Edi. Its by learning, that the unknown becomes known, the creepy becomes natural. Learning can be difficult, but it makes sense that for all of us to learn in the best way, we must comment on things we know of. To help the fellow member in his/her development, and not put up roadblocks in your fellow members path. The roadblocks they will set up for themselves, and so they dont need others on top of that to set them. A saying I use goes like this : Dont limit yourself, there are plenty out there who will do that for you. So keep an open mind and learn from life.

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#23
Hello all
I will in this post have the Reptilians comment on the channeling in the previous post done through Mayatnik by the Pleiadians via his guide Karek. I will do this as before through my guide, who provide the telepathic connection through the Pleiadian mothership to the Reptilians. In this channeling its also explained further on the circumstances that these channelings take part under and why.

'CYCLES' - Channeled from the Reptilians by Fuzziwig
14th of JANUARY 2004

For a long time there has been differences in the way that mankind interpreted various aspects of nature. Nature is a driving force that shapes many kinds of life which can take place on a planet, and its on this planet that there is created opportunities for experiences to learn. There will be on this planet various opportunities in the shape of intelligent life but also beings who sole purpose is to create a balance on the planet, and to help those intelligent in learning. It is in the process of learning, that we find that there are in fact opportunities to create a life that is to be created into this balance and lives in balance with the others, being the planet and the other helping beings. In this balance we find that a symbioses could occur between the parties and from this, gain more than man could have dreamed of. Therefore its vital that mankind takes a step towards learning more about nature and so can live with it in balance, to gain even more understanding of mans own nature. There will be different ways of achieving this and its no easy path, but we see a fundamental understanding of the natures needs to be important, because its by this understanding that a mutual relationship can exist.

A grounding of ideas states that linear thinking will solve many problems regarding modern science. There are however many examples of this not being true. You could take the modern science with the understanding of interactions with nature and see how nature is treated. Nature is at the moment fighting back to restore its balance and does this by setting the planet in motion. Its this motion that is the only way for nature to let mankind know that its being mistreated, all though there are casualties. The casualties are not the intend of this motion, but by being mistreated over such a long time the planet Earth or Gaia let ppl know its being mistreated through natural disasters. It may seem like a violent place to live at, but have in mind that as long as there is a need for mankind to exploit nature, then it will continue to be this way.

The technology that man uses today is focused on the continuing growth of man, but growth in a different way in which increasing accumulation of wealth is the most important. The technology is fixed on using as many natural resources as possible to gain this growth, but as a result man destroys himself. Futhermore is the wealth that is accumulated used to improve on this technology, and so it could be the fall of man if new ideas are not introduced into development of technology, because technology is not bad in itself. It becomes destructive when technology is focused on only gaining something for oneself and not look at the bigger picture in which many could benifit by respecting each party that is included in this process. Technology is used by many other species and an understanding of how to respect the different elements in the process of technology follows with this in the advancements of technology. This is the way in which a healthy way of advancement of technology can take place, and bring mankind forward into a new era of non-destruction.

Mankind have evolved through time differently, in which different lessons had to be learn. Those are the times we call the ages of man. They are ages in which different lessons has been given to mankind for them to learn certain things. Since the start of this great cycle there has been fundamental lessons in which mankind could evolve in further understanding of the world. By learning these lesson, mankind has turned from a what you would call a 'caveman', to a more civilized person in which moral has an affect on a persons behaviour. This is some of the significant change that are made upon humans nature and from where mankind can become more advanced. This is however a temporary development, in that moral is set to make some common sense guidelines and guide ppl into doing the 'right' thing. There will however be a change of development in mankind where moral is not a used, but where man can express and act himself/herself spontaniously out of love for others and oneself. This is a development that will set mankind free, and leave things more open to which opportunities can unfold.

Cycles are a common theme in the world, from the smaller parts in the nature to the great universe. There are great things such as the galaxies that spin around, to the small things such as a particle in a molecule. Many things point to that the world is not linear, yet mankind seems to be persuaded that its linear. It is not linear, but things may seem more tangible when it is. There are areas within your science that can be measured because of this linear thinking and that makes its easy, but not correct. Areas in which the distance to a distant planet may seem like a very long way, but where it is in fact just around the corner so to speak. So not only is it necessary to change the thought of distances, but also the way the universe is shaped. The universe is shaped as to insure that galaxies are stable so that life can thrive in them. They are like small gardens in which many species can experience life and move about to find other species from which they can learn. This is how it works with species; they find each other on different levels and exchange knowledge about various themes. Often it is technology, from which they can make their current more effective. There are other areas in which sharing is common and those are improvement of oneself. They are ways in gaining understanding of the lessons on that current density level currently occupied in. Naturally these meetings are very exciting, because they open up for so many new opportunities in which to learn and develop futher, and it opens up for cross species relationsships which were unthought of before. There is an understanding at this level that there are no other species that can complete the task of developing this technology, which are to be made by that species. The things at hand must be done solely by that species to learn from it and develop further.

Technology is the main reason why there are so many species being able to extend on the lives they are living. Its this development of technology that makes life easier for them and makes them able to help others. Take the species that are helping planet Earth, they are all situated in spacecrafts from which they can coordinate help on the planet, thus making things much more easy. They can move around and even change density level, in that they need to for them to interact with the planets species. Free from having to think of survival gives this surplus to help others and to develop further in technology, but there are other things as well. The development of oneself becomes more important than survival and thereby opening doors to spiritual development previously unheard of. It becomes important to guide others in their journey and to help out where it is needed. It is a yearning to come home that drives at this stage. The home of any spirit in the world which is also called the Source of all things.

The Source is the Creator, the bringer of all life. Nothing really comes close to describing what the Source is, but describing what the Creator does can give an idea what it is. The Creator intended for experiences to be made and so life was made. Life sustaining a memory was made to store those experiences and for the lifeform to learn from those experiences. It was from a need to learn about life that intelligence was put into the lifeform and to initiate a higher form of survival. A kind where experiences would make a difference even in nonthreatning situations. This would make sure that situations of threatning property, could be evaluated even under safe conditions thus learning to cope better in them. This would divide them from other lifeforms that didnt have intelligence and thereby making them more capable of survival. When less time was spent on survival, other things could be attended. These things would first be to establish a firm foundation for futher survival, but later a will to surpass just mere survival. A will to develop in intelligence and perform tasks to develop this intelligence. Later intelligence would become more refined and leave former primitive traits of the lifeform to move on. Moving on to more advanced times with a will to surpass the previous way of living and becoming more than a being whos life is only governed by outside surroundings. This would leave space for a more unique being whos goal is to find out more of its being. A development would take place here, which continuesly would alter the very being of this creature and develops a new way of doing things. Things that are related to the completion of the being and so the being can move on and find ways upon which it can obtain this completion. The being would search in itself to find answers and find the answers to the nature of the being. However a direct completion wouldnt be at hand because of the surroundings. They would seek to find the aspects of the being as something usefull for ways in which control could be issued. They would control the being by enslaving it to believe that the completion lies in the existence of various physical things. Things normally not necessary in what you would call common survival, but for gaining physical pleasure on various levels of the vehicle that the being posseses. Obviously the being would eventually find out that its ways would lead to nowhere but an endless task in gaining these physical things. Being in contact with oneself would set the being in contact with the ways of completion. Exploring several ways still to find the way that would be most suited for the being, the being would find its way and follow it with all its will. Moving to layers in which the being would be able to observe the magnitude of its mission. At first being baffled by it, but then later setting up for completing as much as possible in its life. The being finds learning processes in every aspect of life and continues its way upon completion.

Since man started his task on becoming more than he was, there has been a misunderstanding in how to gain this. There has been countless attempts in gaining it by establishing a foundation for wealth. By these attempts there has been an understanding of self fulfillment, yet still felt empty after each attempt, and so man has looked many places for other ways in gaining this self fulfilment. Its been at this stage of man that he has found that spiritual development gain such self fullfilment, yet something is missing. Not knowing that there are other things to take into account when reaching self fulfillment, he moves on to other things and let go of the things he percieved to be faulty. Slowly he becomes a desparate man who needs to be in touch with himself and become more than he was. He does gain this self fulfillment by understanding that there is more to life than being a creature whos sole purpose is to find ways in which he can dodge difficulties. He will understand that avoiding problems doesnt make problems go away. They are there for the person to learn something from and so the person must face these problems. He will learn that life is not something that you should avoid, but embrace to make the most of it. There will be situations where one feels like giving up and it all feels hopeless in this effort of learning through problematic situations, but they dont seem so harsh when you face them again, thus they are no longer needed for future incarnations to go through. They are dealt with as knowledge for the persons incarnations to be used as guidance in going through these difficult situations.

Life moves on and so problems must be dealt with. Problems are of different kind but those regarding the mental process of the human can be dealt with. These are the kind that involve much thought process in how to fix it and so they take up much energy of the person doing this process. They are however not a process in which man can make a difference in altering the structure of the problem, since it will remain the same. There are only different angles to the problems and thoughts that can help to solve it. However the process of solving the problem stays the same. Letting go of those ideas that led to the conflict are essential for dealing with the problem. When dealing with something like a problem, its important that the energy is present. It is when ppl are feeling down that their energy is low and they dont see an immediate way out. When this happen ppl seem to give up and let it go out on other ppl, more or less purposely. They see a frustration in everything they do and so the surroundings are afflicted by this. It is when this happens that the surroundings must help the person to gain energy to deal with the problems at hand and to support in this difficult time. There are many ways to do this, but talking to the person is of much help and help to gain insights on different angles to the problem. Another way would be to tranfer energy to the person that had the problem and thereby giving that surplus of energy needed to deal with those problems. It is however not a permanent solution in that the energy used to deal with the problems also can be tainted with the negative feelings, and so your back to square one. We find that human contact and exchange of exeriences to be benificial in gaining understanding of problems and thereby dealing with them. We said that you shouldnt avoid problems, but that doesnt mean that you should refrain from using others exeriences to deal with your own problems at hand. Therefore the social network that is created between ppl, very important because it gives ppl a chance to help each other and be there for each other. Giving chances of friendships and understanding for the differences that lies in man.

Man will at some point have to face the differences that lies in man, because its only by understanding this that there can be tolerance beyond your own race and even species. There are alien species that are willing to help but this can be difficult if they are feared, and so help can only happen behind the curtains so to speak. This is the case with humans right now, and this is the reason why we communicate the way we do right now. Persons with the attitude of channeling with a will to help, are the persons that we can help to pass on our message at this time, and so we hope to help this way. Many a times there has been misunderstandings of the will of aliens species, and this has sometimes been with just cause because of the varieties of task done by aliens species. They have been more or less visible and its by this visibility that they might have been percieved as a threat. A threat because of the strange and unknown appearance that can really spark the human imagination to think of the foulest creatures with the worst of intent. Humans have been inspired by many things, and religion is amongst one of those. Religions that speak of foul and evil creatures are contributing to this fear of the unknown. It is by realizing that the unknown can be different than what the religions speak of, that a huge step is taken in gaining tolerance. The evil and foul creatures that are spoken of in those religions are sides of the human nature that is being condemned because of the moral that man has gained. It is obvious that you cant deny your own nature, but you can work towards an understanding of it.

Facing sides of oneself is the process of this understanding. Having an open mind and giving others the benifit of the doubt are first steps in gaining tolerance and by countless experience with positive impressions a bridge is build towards the unknown. Unknown in itself is not allways good, but there a many positive aspects of it that shouldnt be overlooked because of small parts of negative. Its by denying ones own chance for these positive aspects, that a great deal is missed out on and so we can only encourage to be curious and open minded in your exploring of the unknown. There are offcourse ways in which common sense would object to explore in which an obvious negative result would stem from. These ways have maybe been tried many times by others where a negative result has been the case and thereby no need in exploring this. Its worth noting though that prejudices based on others experiences may not be true to others, and so using the guidance of ones intuition combined with common sense is the way to explore, with the others experiences in the back of the head. So by exploring, new experiences may erupt and may contradict others results from their experiences. This is the way to learn and to understand how predujices work in lives in which they can limit the persons opportunities. Not knowing that ideas can inhibit the person, these predujices lives on through whole lives in which they create distance and intolerance, making live more difficult. This is the way man has lived for a long time and as a result wars have been waged and cruel act against humans have been conducted. Those are some of the more extreme results of those ideas, but they demonstrate how the ideas manifest in the world, when its felt that an injustice has taken place. Those injustices originating from a percieving threat to survival and an increasing lack of ability to cope with it. These can be the ways upon man will avenge himself again and again till the threat is finally no more. Not realizing that the threat may be a friend or family, he keeps fighting to maintain survival instead of trying to solve the situation in cooperation with the percieved threat. Its often that resolving to fighting is not necessary at all, but being willing to solve the situation by other means would then be necessary. Solving the situation by dialog and having in mind that the other side also wants to solve it, even if thats is not the case, because giving the other side the benifit of the doubt can lead to far more positive than the opposite. If your not open to the possibility that there is good will behind, then you have judged the other side even before a true opinion can be formed. So by having an open mind, many conflicts can be avoided and lead to understanding of the other sides needs.

We understand that there are conflicts that are very complicated on planet Earth, but these conflicts are usually originated in bad communication in not being willing to listen to the other side. In not being able to listen there is allready created a gap and this gap feeds confusion to the conflict. At this stage there is no other way than get back to the discussiontable and straigthen out the mess. When these conflicts occur, there are no way for the civilian to solve it by using force, because in this there is created injustice on the other party of the conflict. This escalating in more force being used and making the conflict even more complicated. For the civilian there is only leaving the conflict to those who started it and let them sort it out. An objective view on the situation can be very hard when your being affected by it, and so many act on their strong emotions towards what they percieve to be an aggressor. These acts often result in violence, and not being able to do anything about their situation might make these acts understandable. What they dont understand is that they are adding to the conflict and making things worse not only for themselves, but also the surrounding communities, in that their acts make room for other to do similar things, because its becomes acceptable with such acts. Not only is this a destructive chain, but its also a way to making conflicts near impossible to solve. Offcourse there are other ways for the civilians to act and so making positive change to a conflict. It would be by contributing with ideas to solving the conflict, and by showing that finding a way out of it is highly appreciated. Actions which lead the civilian to make a statement that tell others that its not acceptable to use violence and that the conflict must be solved in order for those involved to move on. Moving on to better lives and other life lessons. Offcourse there are other ways upon learning how to cope with conflicts, and by living them out with death and destruction you may learn it, but its not really necessary. It takes up time in your life that could have been spend on other lessons that might be more important to learn. It is by accepting guidance that the same lessons dont have to be relived many times causing pain. Only when its highly necessary there can be talk of reliving lessons, but this is because they are not learned properly. It may not seem fair, but there is no other way for the individual to learn these things and so they must be relived. For an individual to learn this way may not seem efficient, but learning this way covers various aspects of the experience and so its by this combined knowledge the lesson is extracted. Many experiences are often needed to cover a lesson in which may contain grander subjects such as being able to love or destruction. Now collecting experiences can take many lifetimes to cover the grander subjects, because a single life may not complete such a lesson. It is possible though in dedicating oneself to learning of each little situation that passes through life. Extracting the 'point' so to say of the result of the situation and learning what caused it. By going about ones life this way, it not only leaves room for interpretation of the situation for oneself, but also for others to gain insights in. So its this way that lessons are learned.

The galaxies are build like spirals from which their enourmous size affect the inhabitants in them. Each and every planet in them has an effect upon the lives that are lead near them. Each solarsystem creating the smaller components in the galaxy and being the breathing ground for some of the species existing. The solarsystem they occupy holds an influence that leads and drives the beings. The influence being a force that is elecromagnetic. It is the one being responsible for affecting ppl in a way that makes them act accordingly to the grander plan of the species. Futher it lets them explore the aspect of that particular influence and lets them learn the lessons attached to this influence. The Zodiac is such an example where in which the different influences are marked. They each represent an influence that is affecting man in different ages of man. They started by the beginning of the great cycle and so they moved on influencing man for each of the great ages of man. They started by influencing at an early age where man had just developed to a species which could move beyond its primitive survival. Later when man became moral, there was no longer needed for a previous influence and so a different influence became dominant. Not because of the need, but because of very closely measured goals for the species in which to develop. This measurement done by higher beings whos job is to overlook the species and their development. Beings who are situated in higher density layers from where they coordinate species to interact with others in helping and building links between them, from which they can communicate and work together. Such is it with the Earth project where several species are involved. They are located in another density layer than their own in order assist with tasks that are related to the Earth project. Futhermore are the species involved also in a position to have a say in what they are to perform of tasks. They do this in conjuction with the Galactic Federation from where major decisions are made and where the species find a forum to talk about various subject. Working together like this is both benificial for those they help, but also for themselves in that they learn a great deal from working with others as well as those tasks being done. They find that they no longer need to work on developing ways upon their improvement, but that they happen when they perform these tasks of helping. So in this way its a mutual realationship that all parties gain from. The various species all work in different ways to help the Earth project, and so to insure that its done properly the guides are having an important role in this. They see to that a species for example is not helped too much in the good will of the helping species.

This has happened before with the Pleiadians, but was corrected for future ventures and they learned a great deal from this. They now play an active role in coordinating other species to help and they also play a role in teaching these species the value of helping and how to do it. They are from their solar system overseeing those species that are in the alcyone spiral and making sure that the influence from the planets matches the help given. It is no easy task, and so they utilize the help from computers to make accurate precisions and check with the guides to whether is precise. These computers being used for many other things in that they can provide a easier approach to task (there is no need to invent the bowl twice). This insuring surplus for other tasks and to live. The Pleiadians are in many ways the teachers of the galaxy. They help in overseeing tasks done by other species and give them feedback on the result of those. This is why the channeling taking place right here is also being overseen by the Pleiadians from their mothership, in which they can extract the lessons learned by the parties involved and distribute to other species so they can learn from these lessons. Its mostly a communication task but also high responsibility in distributing the right lessons for those species targeted. Like others it matters what lessons they are given as to insure best progress and development. They are given the opportunity to learn from the lesson, and to change their ways to something even more benificial. The Pleiadians are gathering information from many sources. They are in contact with many species beyond the Earth project and so there is a higher form of exchange of lessons beyond the galaxy. Its a joint effort in bringing enlightenment to all kind. An attempt to bring species together and let them learn from each other.

The cycles which are influencing man are periods of 26000 years in which the photon band impacts at certain intervals of that cycle. Its a band that influence all life in a positive way to reach full potential. And so its influence reach down and change the way man is build. The DNA is altered in a way to wake up slumbering elements of it and let new abilities be available to man. Its a positive change, but only a change that is done rarely because a species should be able to cope with the changes. This is why when you ascend in density that the path in the alcyone spiral becomes smaller to insure more change at smaller intervals of time because it can be coped with at that stage. As the ascension reaches the peak of the spiral, a continuing affection of the photon band takes place and change happens all the time, and makes sure that the species reaches its full potential. When this happens there are no limits to the species and it can express itself fully. There is a need for the species to help others up to the same level and when this happen they move on to other experiences. It is a completion of being that takes place when there is no more to be done at that stage, and so it moves on. It moves on to a place where a higher form of development can take place. A place where the being is no longer restricted by its physical body and where an energetic relationship occurs between those present there. It is a place of great joy and bliss and where there is no pain. The task of helping continues in this form, but it is on a different level. Things are still learned, but in a different way in that the beings involved are highly developed. They seek out confusion on many levels and bring their help if needed. The help utilized is through a cooperation with beings on a lower level than themselves. They communicate with each other and exchange ideas upon which improvement of the lower level beings can done. It is a wonderfull friendship there is between the beings at this level and the beings at lower levels than themselves. They understand the position the beings of lower levels are in, and so they can by this understanding provide for the best help possible. At some point the beings at the energetic level move on to even higher levels and help them below themselves, and this is the way it develops until the Source is reached.

An understanding of the universe brings understanding of the bigger picture and therefore you must also know of the way the species on for example the Earth project bring help. The species have several ways of influencing another. They use their knowledge to predict the things that are to occur with the species they help. These predictions are based upon information from various sources, and an understanding of the inner workings of the universe. They use these prediction to influence various beings who want this help. They do this by influencing with the agreement of the guides and this is usually the case. The guides know what kind of help is best suited for the individual and so help done by these species are done with the approval stamp of the guides so to speak before they act. In many ways its the best way to provide help and those refusing this kind are often in very much trouble afterwards, because they do not fully understand the consequences of their acts. They create more havoc than good and so others must step in and undo the damage. The various species know of this agreement, and so they follow it to avoid having to work more than necessary.

There are others who completely go against the wishes of the guides, and they create so much havoc as to put the helping species on much extra work to undo this damage, and this is the case with the factions which derive from our planet. They have no understanding of why its important to help others, and base their entire will upon gaining more for themselves. This is the way of some of the beings that are too confused to move on a benifical path upon their own improvement would follow. The beings involved in this are kept from doing certain things. They can try to influence others with their ideas, but certain acts are them forbidden. They can not use their power to establish a permanent influence on a being of mankind. The guides will try to influence as well to keep giving the being a chance to choose something different. The influence from these faction may be strong when chosen, but there will allways be a second choice given by the guides. There would be no hope of helping these ppl if this wasnt so. Its by the guides wishes to give ppl that second chance in any situation of confusion; to give a chance of leaving that confusion and moving on in life


This concludes this channeling and now leaves room for members to ask questions about the subjects mentioned. I will be answering questions in following post as well as provide comments on the next channeling done by Mayatnik.

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig
#24
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Major Channeling
by the
REPTILIANS
#25
Hello all
I will in this post present some background knowledge as I did in the last post. This information will as before be channeled by Mayatnik through the Pleiadians via his guide Karek. The amount of information posted here is the reason for a separate post, and to give the members a chance to collect questions on this, to be posted after the Reptilians response which will follow.


'CYCLES' - Channeled from the Pleiadians by MAYATNIK
9th of JANUARY 2004

I, Karek, channeling for the Pleiadians through this vehicle Mayatnik, want to talk to you about 'cycles' as these have been mentioned in the post where the Reptilians enlarged upon the channelling given there by Mayatnik from us Pleiadians, his brief channelling of us there being to bring focus to the discussion about the Pole shift, about what is happening now and that which will be ongoing as we approach the end of this Grand Cycle on December 23td 2012 (not December 21st as some have given - since that is just the time of the 'Winter Solstice' as observed from your planet), the Mayan 'end date'.  Yes, the Mayan's were as accurate as that, with their calendar !  In fact, it was a Cosmic Calendar, and describes the 'cycles' that are just as accurate throughout the galaxy and beyond in the Great Universe. We shall be talking here about the galaxy you live in - and which is also our galaxy.

What is so important about 'cycles'? We need to tell you that is how your galaxy functions, how life itself should function but on your planet Earth you have become accustomed to 'linear' living and have almost forgotten about cycles, about how your ancestors used to live in tune with 'nature' - they used to resonate with the galactic pulse that drives the cycles.  You observe the cyclic nature of the seasons, even the cycling of your planet as it revolves giving you 'day' and 'night', along with the cycling movement of others in your solar system around your sun, yet you barely recognise these things - and you have lost the meaning of their true aspect as you delve into the complexities of mathematical equations in an attempt to understand nature and all you perceive is therefore skewed by this linear mode of living. As a result, your calculation of numerical distances and differences between you and other planets,, as you attempt to quantify them in this way, gives your scientists the notion that should there be life 'out there' in the galaxy then it should conform to your mathematical based evaluations. This linear thinking extends to your view of space travel when you look at the stars and compute the time it would take to travel there at speeds your linear based technology allows. So it would appear to you that many many years of travelling would be needed to reach even the nearest star as you see it. You restrict yourselves by this mode of thinking, and set yourself barriers such as the 'speed of light' constant you have calculated and is now written in stone along with so many other perceptions derived from this linear thinking... all because the cyclic way you were intended to live has been obscured and relegated to being seen as 'inefficient'. Such is the way 'cyclic' living is perceived by the conditioning of society and children by those in power on your planet who talk about the so-called 'Great Age of Technology' that they are promoting, but behind the scenes the motive force is profit to feed the furnace of the 'economy'. So, to feed the machine, vast areas of your planet have been decimated - either by war or needless famine or destruction of the ecology by laying waste vast areas of natural forest that we, the Higher Realms, placed there to sustain your planet; and now your planet has become very sick.
The coming Pole Shift will help greatly to restore health to your planet, as the 'artificial' is swept away, and linear living is replaced once more with cyclic to bring you in tune with the galaxy for the Greater Purpose. Some of you, as yet conditioned, may well think this event will throw you back into the age of the so-called 'cavemen'. We use the term so-called because you have been 'educated' that you're your technology has brought you far beyond those perceived caveman times, and in your scientists' arrogance they choose not to even see the evidence they have found from the past in your various branches of science. Neolithic Man was not 'primitive' at all - he lived cyclically, and as a result knew more than your scientists today about the planets in your solar system, and the qualities you have forgotten were revered and taught by the Shamens to the people. The Sumerians knew not only all the planets in your solar system, but also their orbits and even distances. But they saw beyond the 'mathematical'and so were able to perceive all these things and far more. Your scientists claim to have 'discovered' the planets that are not visible to the naked eye (or even conventional telescope) in the recent centuries, and in the past few decades even as their technology became better - yet the Sumerians knew all this already, and all your modern science was merely rediscovering what had been obscured and cast aside in the linear-drive that came upon you ! Vast libraries of records have been uncovered and translated from those ancient times that prove this conclusively, but your scientists ignore this storehouse of knowledge. We notice that, even on your Astral Pulse, you have No Leaf Clover, who can tell you much about those ancient times of the Sumerians, and we urge you to listen to what he can tell you so that you can then look for yourselves at what has become hidden to you by those who prefer you not to be the wiser for it would change your perception.

In this post, as we channel through our vehicle Mayatnik, we shall examine some previous channelings given to the people of Earth by us Pleiadians through such as Barbara Hand Clow and Amorah Quan Yin in their books (details of which can be found in the Astral Pulse Library under <Book recommendations by Mayatnik>, again from us). By referring the reader to these existing channelings our vehicle can lay a foundation for the expanded telepathic input from us that he is receiving here regarding all that they have channelled, and in particular here with regard to 'cycles' which is a key topic to understand, as he writes what we tell him unclouded by preconceived Earth-notions that are extant in your 'society'.

To keep this post relatively short (because the Reptilians and also fuzziwig's Pleiadian guide will further comment themselves through their vehicle on what we tell you here) we have decided (in conjunction with all the guides involved) to split into three posts our teachings regarding 'cycles'. This post, along with its background information, will concentrate on the galaxy and its cyclic spirals and how these affect the Earth and its people (and how we work with this at a galactic level also). The next post comes nearer to home (that is, your own solar system) and we will tell you about the planets and the backdrop of the constellations, and how these are they interplay in the Cosmic Scheme of things in a very clear way over time and which give what are called 'The Ages of Man' - periods of time in which, for each 'age', certain <lessons> are given to be learned in the course of your evolution. In yet a further post that will follow that, we shall talk to you about how your outermost planets have been having a dramatic effect on you, particularly since 1960, in being the driving-force for change... and how each planet has a subtle but very decisive effect as the years progressed towards 1998 when your sun entered the Photon Band - and from then on your DNA started to change to prepare your physical bodies for the coming transition. 2012 is the 'midnight' hour in terms of the Great Cycle (picture its sweep as that of the hand of a clock), and so from then on your planet progresses towards a New Dawn and a transition for the Earth (physically) along with its people who have made the 'choice', into the 4th Density level. The planets (in fact even the stars in your galaxy also, as you shall see) are increasingly changing, forever, how things will become as you once more become in tune with their cyclic nature and live in peace, harmony and happiness together - both among yourselves and with other species in the galaxy already here to help you in this rebirthing, and who will in time come to walk among you with true friendship you can not as yet perceive.... Because, we are your 'parents' and you are the Children of the Stars. It is fast approaching time for you to know your true 'home', and we shall be overjoyed to welcome you, as you come of age, into the Galactic Federation - and to know us all, the Family Of Light !

So, in this post, we shall show you your relationship to the stars in your galaxy, where we come from and how all this relates to your present time and has in fact been 'in process' since aeons before the dawn of Man on Earth.

---o---


Here is a picture, depicting the ALCYONE SPIRAL (Alcyone is the main star of the Pleiades constellation), that illustrates your connection to us - because, as you will see from it, your sun is in fact the eigth star of the Pleiades.

Fig 1. The Alcyone Pleiades Spiral.

From your Earth vantage point the stars of the Pleiades seem so far away, and it is not obvious that your sun is part of the Pleides cluster, but it is - and is, in fact, no greater in relative 'distance' than the space between the atoms of your own body, that which makes up 'you' physically... or, to be more accurate, the physical part of you since you are multi-dimensional, and so are the stars for that matter. Your Earth-notion of space is in terms of 'absolute' distances (this stemming from your 'linear' thinking again), whereas, it should be viewed - as all things should - in relative terms. You perceive it would take many 'light years' to travel to any of those stars, because of the mathematical constant you have invented called 'the speed of light' which, because of how your instruments are therefore calibrated, sets limits to your perception of how things really are. Your scientists now know that there is enormous 'space' as they perceive it between the atoms that make up any matter - and they find this, not surprisingly because of their self-imposed limitations, difficult to grasp. Yet, intuitively, you feel that it takes virtually no time at all for the different parts of your body to integrate with each other and to maintain their 'form' (whether organs or blood or whatever). So, it is also, with the stars - and takes us very little time (seconds, in your notion of time) to travel those great distances... because we are not restricted to the 'speed of light' as you term it in your observations of your third density 'space'. Even when our ships are in your physical space, we can cross your globe in a twinkling or so. Some of you have observed our 'flying saucers' to accelerate at fantastic speeds, but that is only the initial acceleration....and we can travel from the UK to Australia in 1 second of your time, or two seconds to reach your moon (and that doubling of time to a further second is only because we go through a 'distance' stage in what your Startrek movies term 'hyperspace'). For the most part, though, we Pleiadians do not use 'bodies' in a physical sense unless we are in the lower dimension of matter - and other species (such as the Zeta and Reptilians can also travel as we do, with or without physical 'bodies' or 'vehicles'). So, things are not as your scientists and society would have you perceive them to be - and that is only for a start, in all of this as we reveal more about the Cosmology of existence !

You will see, from Fig 1 (The Alcyone Spiral of the Pleiades) that the spiral, with the main star Alcyone at the apex, widens out with each of the other stars - Meropa, Maya, Electra, Taygena, Coele, Atlas and finally your sun (sol, the eigth star of the Pleiades) - in that order, spending less and less time (compared with the higher stars) within the Photon Band, and of course Alcyone spending virtually all the time within it. The Earth (as part of your own solar system) spendest the largest part of the time in the 'Galactic Night' and spends only a short time (about 2,000 years - which is a short time in galactic terms!) The galaxy with its constellations as you view it from Earth is depicted by the zodiac signs that represent various constellations, 12 in number, in equal divisions around the 'clockface' of time as you know it looking at the heavens. The glyphs of the zodiac 'houses' are part of Astrology (which is what the Sumerians followed, and were able to learn so much from) and of course Astrology has been discarded by science and replaced by Astronomy (which deals only in 'absolutes' and not the relative terms that are the essence of 'cyclic' awareness and true Cosmic Knowledge). We shall now impart more of that pre-ancient Knowledge to you through this vehicle Mayatnik here as you examine the role that this Pleiades spiral plays 'behind the scenes' in your lives, as you discover that the whole galaxy is 'connected' electromagnetically and in communication, each part with the other, and it is through that connection that we speak to you by Telepathy because we are in the All Consciousness, and communicate these things to you - as we have done in past evolutions, and not just on your Earth - when it is time for you to advance into the next stage, this being here the transition into 4th Density. And so, we are preparing you for this as loving parents.

We Pleiadians chose to come and share your realm and have been with you for the last 26 thousand years (one full 'cycle'). We came when the Photon Band was last at the point it is now once again as we approach yet another Age Of Aquarius at the start of the next cycle.

The following illustration, THE STORY OF TIME WHEEL, shows the different 'Ages of Man', and will be explained in greater depth in a later channelled post.

Fig 2. The Story Of Time Wheel.

13 thousand years ago, at the start of the Age Of Leo, when the Photon Band cut through this area of space from its source at the Galactic Centre the Pleiadians made a big mistake with you (and this admission was channelled to Barbara Hand Clow for her book <The Pleiadian Agenda>. You see, our caring for you was so deep that we helped you too much at that time, and that was not good for you. We therefore were seen to have 'interfered' by those realms higher than us in how we gave that help. There are strict rules about how much help can be given and in what way, and so we shall not make the same mistake again. We are telling you this to correct our mistake, so that we can move forward also, as you cannot move forward unless you admit to yours - and therefore we give you the knowledge that will assist you in understanding so that you can do this too. Because now our task is to be birthers of your planet and people into the next realm, and so we are simply telling you what you need to know - then the choice is yours to take. But know that we are here for you, and will assist where we are invited. We will not force you into 4th Density, and only those who call upon us (be it consciously or subconsciously) and who then listen will be assisted in the transition - and which is why we speak to you now of this to make it clear.

You came out of the 'Galactic Night' which you had travelled in for so long, and started to enter the Photon Band in 1998 when it first connected with your sun, and now your planet is being irradiated by its energy and the galactic consciousness that is activating your DNA to prepare your bodies along with the higher dimensions of yourself that exist in the etheric. The Photon Band itself exists as intersecting beams of electromagnetic energy that carry consciousness to the far reaches, as it cuts through your Milky Way galaxy, and has reached your planet again.Your galaxy is a 10-dimensional system that expresses itself in 9 dimensions - not just in 3D as you see it. The Sirius system is in fact in 6D and the Pleiadian system is 5D, to give you some idea. We Pleiadians can (in general) go up one dimension (to 6D) and travel down through the dimensions below us (and therefore can share your 3D).

Besides the many links you share with us, as part of the Pleiades, your solar system is also closely linked to the Sirius system. The planet Nibiru (Planet X, which will bring the Pole Shift) was once an outer planet of the star Sirius A, and is now also 'caught' by your sun which brings it in a wide parabola into your solar system as the outermost planet of your sun in that way. In fact, Nibiru is so old that it had started to enter your solar system before your Earth, as you know it, came into being. Nibiru, during several entries, caused the break-up of a large planet that was once in your solar system, called Tiamat. On break-up, that large watery planet finally became what you see as the Asteroid belt, the remnants of Tiamat in the orbit of where it once was whole. On an earlier pass, a large chunk of Tiamat was propelled into a different orbit by Nibiru - and that chunk was whwat then became your planet Earth. It had been flung a long way from the passing orbit of Nibiru, which is why Nibiru will not strike the Earth but will pass by at a distance of 14 million miles away, but will nevertheless have an effect on the Earth as it reacts to the passage (in the same way as it did in the time of Noah and the flood, and at other earlier times before your recorded history). Your Bible (which is really a rewritten account of earlier texts, Sumerian and Babylonian, which were much more detailed) describes 'Creation' in "seven days". These were not your days, but galactic days - where the Photon Band came out of the Galactic Night - and over that period was seeded with all the forms of vegetation and life, to form the ecology... and later Man arrived in his new 'home' (the 'human' species has existed on other planets, placed there to evolve in a similar way prior to coming to the Earth over a long long period of time covering many many Great Cycles (Amorah Quan Yin channels about those origins prior to Earth in her book). So, galaxy that will be prepared for us. Your Jesus (who came onto your Earth from the 9th Dimension in the Age of Pisces) said: "My Father's house has many mansions" - and in that was a hint of what He knew.  Others too have incarnated on the Earth from the Highest Realms (what you would call 'archangels'), and we of the Higher Realms, as 'angels' in your Biblical terms (not Gods) are here to help all mankind - whatever their religion, race or culture - in your journey further into the Light and remember your origins and your true 'home' out there among the stars.

And that brings us to the final section of this post, which has of necessity had to be somewhat long in order to lay a foundation for what is to come over the next few months. Even so, what we have told you here is but a mere smattering of the huge, huge story you are just beginning to perceive. We, the Pleiadians, are the keepers of the Akashic Records that have constantly been kept updated as you journey through the 'cycles' in the spiral of the Pleiades.

Alcyone, which is permanently in the Photon Band, receives information from the other stars of the Pleiades including your sun, and thus there is a connection of stellar light through all the dimensions from the 7th (where the Acyone Library is). There is also a communication connection from the Library at Sirius A (which is twinned with your sun), and Nibiru carries records back and forth which are stored in its 'local' library, as well as Gaia, your Earth, which is your local Library. connected to the others. All the stars can be related to your legends, such as Atlas. One very important star is the 3rd one, Maya, which is the Keeper Of Time - and it is from there that the Mayans came, for a while, and left their Calendar of the cycles on the Earth. Your solar system contains what we call the Records of New Intentions, and especially so on your planet.

Finally, we should mention the Reptiles, for they first came to your planet 225 million years ago in the galactic orbit - and (to quote Barbara Hand Clow's channelling) ".....now you are subtly conscious of Reptilian intelligence because they are completing such a huge galactic cycle".

And at this point it is appropriate to conclude this channelling from us, the Pleiadians, for now.  We shall talk to you again in a further post to add to this foundation. But, in the meantime, we hand you over to the Reptilians who have many things to add to this themselves and we know they are eager to begin.
----- channelled With Pleiadian Love and Light, by Mayatnik (9th January, 2004).


That concludes the Channeling by Mayatnik. As said before I will do a followup with the Reptilian response, that will extend on this information provided, and so questions to this are welcome after the response.

Light and Compassion
Fuzziwig