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Hello again everyone! I just want to thank you all for the helpful advice. I wish I would have seen it 2 years ago :/. Sadly enough that list has significantly increased in size, if not doubled. But that doesn't matter, the will is still here and strong! I'm going to try to stay alot more active on the forums before I join the airforce, most of my friends that I did the ' Projection harming ' substances with are in jail, rehab, or dead. I've stopped smoking marijuana completely, from being a daily user. I quit smoking cigarettes aswell although I still smoke nicotine ejuices from a re-buildable mod. I still drink, moderately heavily as i'm in a bit of a dark place in life. But after reading your advice I know this forum will help greatly. It's Hello again. I just want to thank you all for the helpful advice. I wish I would have seen it 2 years ago :/. Sadly enough that list has significantly increased in size, if not doubled. But that doesn't matter, the will is still here and strong! I'm going to try to stay alot motlre active on the forums before I join the airforce, most of my friends that I did the ' Projection harming ' substances with are in jail, rehab, or dead. I've stopped smoking marijuana completely, from being a daily user. I quit cigarettes aswell although I still smoke nicotine ejuices from a re_buildable to see new faces, and I hope to learn more and more each day i'm on. I'm here to stay this time. 

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Hello! John Cletus here ( A.K.A Mikel105 ) . Well to start off.. I've been interested in Astral Projection since I was about 12. I'm 16 now. I've attempted it many times, Never really getting anything except Sleep Paralysis and Lucid Dreams. I suppose I've never really been dedicated enough to do something I care so much about. When I was younger I was really interested in it but I never got the chance to fully attempt every night ( Due to never having enough time ). Until 16, I recently had one projection ( Or so I assume ). I woke up in the morning and quickly held still, thinking in my mind " If I hold still I can get sleep paralysis and project! " . As I vibrated and went through the stages of sleep paralysis, I finally tried moving my arm, I can't really explain it but I saw some sort of arm come out of my arm that I could move. Besides all this, I just need some advice and have some questions. Now since about 14, I could never project, so I got really interested in drugs. As I grew older I got extremely interested in drug use. Now, Astral pulse, First I guess I'll try and name every drug I've done from 14 - 16. My questions are pretty simple after I name them, So here we go:

Drug use 14-16.
1.   Marijuana ( Heavily/Daily )
2.   Cigarettes ( Nearly Daily/ Heavily )
3.   K-2/Synthetic cannabis ( Roughly 17 - 18 times, smoked )
4.   Dramamine/ Dimenhydramine ( 3 times )
5.   Alcohol ( Almost daily now, Abused many times through 14 - 16 )
6.   Cocaine ( Used once )
7.   Morphine ( Roughly 3 times )
8.   Ambien ( Used once in heavy amounts )
9.   Hydrocodone ( Used about 5 times )
10. Codeine ( Used once in heavy amounts and also dipped cigarettes in )
11. DXM/Cough Syrup ( Used many times 14 - 16 )
12. DMT ( Smoked a few times )
13. Amphetamines ( Concerta, Aderall, Vyvanse...e.t.c) ( Used heavily 14-15 )
14. LSD ( Used 15 - 16, heavily )
15. Research chemicals similar to LSD ( Used heavily 16 )
16. LSA ( Used Once )
17. Nitrous oxide ( Two Whippets )
18. Zanex ( Used 7 times )
19. Klonopins ( Used once )
20. Suboxone  ( Used about 4 times )

I'm sure there's a few more but that's all I can think of. This isn't to " Show off " the drugs I've done, or brag. This is to receive serious help that is in need. Currently I'm drinking every day and smoking cigarettes, and doing LSD every 4 - 6 days. I always tell myself, " Well hey, if I know how to project I won't need to do drugs . " But I've never dedicated time to it. So for now, the questions are:

If known, have any of the drugs I've done affected my ability to Astral Project permanently?

Temporarily?

Will I ever be able to Astral Project normally after having done all that?

Is there any way I can dedicate myself to projection and not drugs, Through a program or something? ( I now have all the time I need to practice, and even though I've researched projection for years I've never really found a Starting Point. Somewhere to begin and actually dedicate myself and some time to projection. )

Are any of these drugs beneficial or helpful towards projection?

Besides binaural beats and what not, Any advice towards projection/ tips will be greatly appreciated.

Again, I'm not trying to get you to help my life or do anything that is too detouring from your time, I just really need some advice and need to get up off my butt and actually dedicate some time towards something I've always really wanted to achieve, but never dedicated time to. It's always " Oh I've got years, I'm sure if I barely try one day it will happen to me! " . Whelp, That's about it. Any help would be greatly appreciated, As I'm really in a bad position in my life. Thanks again everyone!

- John ' Pinback ' Cletus

( Apologies if this is in the wrong board )

@It's_All_Bad  You'd be surprised.The sad part is, no teacher has really helped with my grammar. Hell, I'm failing English xD. But the main way I learned good grammar, was back when I was 12, on Astral Viewers. Everyone had such nice grammar, and my young self was at the rate of " hi i ned to lern ". But I taught myself. At first I capitalized every letter, Like This. Then I just learned. I see a few familiar faces from Astral Viewers actually, glad to see you guys . On the Hallucinogens, it was after an extreme depression I believe, I started heavily smoking weed. Then Spiraled into the hallucinatory drugs among others. But I completely agree, And I've had my fair share of exploration for good now.  My girlfriend is all the happiness I need. But thanks for the advice! Cheers!   

@Soarin12 Haha, well it's all about your mindset really. If you're in a very peaceful and observant mood, they won't really disturb you as much. I usually get a surge of happiness when I see or experience them actually, because it makes me feel like iv'e progressed, and usually I make humor out of the situation or ignore them completely. Just keep your focus on your goal of achievement and they won't really get to you as much. Another reason they don't get to me though, is probably due to life experience. For example, Iv'e hallucinated seeing the girl from the grudge crawling at me, A man with a pig mask staring at me from the woods, little children, snakes and skeletons alike. I never really had any bad trips, because I just laughed it off, knowing it was fake and just staying calm. Hell I've had a close friend who was really tripping point a gun at me, then himself. The main goal is, remain calm and just let it pass, even find relaxation out of it. Good luck!

@Lionheart Thanks a ton man! Those " Sign posts " Are really intriguing, very well written guide! I've been exploring the site a bit, and once I have time I'll fully dedicate myself to expanding that road. Rather interesting experience by the way.

Well thanks for your advice guys! I had one more question though, if that's okay xD. The falling sensation, any more on this? For example, it'll happen sometimes after the hypnagogic step, or like recently, I'll be in a lucid dream and all of a sudden get really confused. Like I was in a bar, just lounging with friends, and all of a sudden I noticed not that I was dreaming, but that I was in a bar. And it became lucid in the fact of the matter that I thought it was real. So then I started questioning it and thought, " Maybe I'll test if this is real by falling backwards, if I hit my head, it's real. " So I just let myself fall backwards then right away got a very big falling sensation and woke up. Thanks again for your help!

- John ' Pinback ' Cletus
   

Well before I go In-Depth on this, Just a little bit about me. I'm 16, I've been into astral projection since I was 12, I've had many run ins with Sleep paralysis and lucid dreaming, i've also had many attempts at Astral Projection. I think some have been successful. I've done many Psychedelics when going down a bad road, including Dmt, Lsd, Lsa, Dimenhydramine...e.t.c), So usually when in Sleep Paralysis, disturbing hallucinations don't really bother me. Well, back on topic, So last night I had been researching Astral projection like usual, reading experiences and what not, when I began to get really tired. It's about 1:25 am and I'n thinking " Oh, you can't really project when you're really tired. Nights not the best. ", So I put my laptop away, and lay down to sleep. Now what I'd been doing lately is holding my girlfriends notes to my heart when I sleep. But what usually happens is I almost fall alseep but keep thinking about her ...e.t.c). Well, as i'm drifting to sleep I'm watching my hypnagogic images behind my eyelids, When all of a sudden a blob of color turns into a rather nasty face. So I start to think to myself on this verge of Half wakefulness, how funny the face was and that I'd must be getting hypnagogic Hallucinations. I also remembered that if I'd watch them then eventually Sleep paralysis would kick in with the vibrations and that Hypnagogia was the first step. Instead, I decided just to watch them and then drifted off to sleep for about a minute before slightly regaining awareness by remembering the note. So then all of a sudden, I got this extremely odd feeling of falling into myself. So I just went along with it hoping for separation, Except the falling kept going, then stopped, then went a little, and stopped all together. So as it was done, I thought I would try to move my arms, Well, I moved them but in a different feeling, as my normal arms remained still. I assumed they were my astral arms, But I don't remember what happened next as I was then in an amazingly long lucid dream ( I think, Or was it projection? This I need help on.. ) . Now I remember it entirely, I controlled what I did, I sort of felt some things. But the weirdest part was, in this dream I suddenly thought of something ( I forget ) And immediately woke up. So I'm lying in bed thinking " What a nice lucid dream, it's 6 am time for school. ". Because usually after long lucid dreams it's close to being time to wake up. Well, it hit me when I looked at my alarm and it was 2:31 am. I got really confused and checked my phone and thought " There's no way that was only an hour.. " . Still confused I layed back down to go back to sleep when all of a sudden some sort of " Jolt " hit me. It's hard to describe, It was like a loud second long buzzing sound ( Like a buzzer ) And I saw all grey for that second in my  hypnagogic field. That confused me again, but I shrugged it off and passed back out.

So with that good ole' sump of information, Here's my questions to anyone, And if anyone themselves has questions to ask me, don't be afraid. 

1. What was this Falling sensation? Anyone else had similar experiences? Is it a part of vibrations?

2. Was that a Lucid Dream, Or Projection?

3. How did it seem like it had been hours, and the entire dream go on for so long ( I remember all of it in detail ), but it only have been an hour?

4. What was up with that sound and flash in my hypnagogic? Anyone else experience things like this?

5. Any advice or tips on this?

That's all for now, Thanks again to anyone who can help me out.

- John ' Pinback ' Cletus

Ah. Well perhaps it's time I stop smoking for a bit. How's it been by the way, Bedeekin? Last I saw of you was at Astral Viewers.

Hey, I was wondering, Sometimes when I get really high off of a bunch of gb's, I feel a floating sensation and if I lie down it feels like i'm falling into myself and gets more and more intense until I usually get up and shake it off. Is this in any way related to OBE's or Astral Projection? And can it help you achieve an OBE?

any one? lol 

im mike,14

sorry if i posted in the wrong section,im a bit new,not to  project, to this forum lol!ok,so what you do is hold still,like your going asleep but keep your consoiuse awake. focus on your breaths,count them,or focus on a sound you here in your room,or the ring in the back of your head. you will then enter sleep paralysis after a while etc 20-30 minutes.while in sleep paralyisis you just relax focus on keeping the same patern of breath,or ignore it and just sleep breath. after a while etc 15-20 minutes,you will feel vibrations,ignore them and just relax and keep focusing,after the vibrations end etc 20-15 minutes,youll hit the quiet zone. then you just have to seperate using a roll out or reach your astral hands and grab somthing to pull you out. its basicly holding still and letting your body fall asleep. like when your in sleep paralyisis,you will be able to see,ignore this as in all sleep paralysis occasions,you can see through your eyelids,im sure most of you have had it where you wake up and cant move , thats all you need to do,practicing it for about a week to a month depends,it took me a week,but the first three days i just fell asleep.and if you ever woke up in sleep paralysis just start off where i said what you do in sleep paralyisis. good luck to all! -mike ps.tell me your progress or if it was good!