Hey.
I think this might be an arduous experience to describe but maybe OBE's usually are, if that is what I experienced. I have only read Part 1 of Astral Dynamics and haven't read any other books on the subject so bare with me if I'm using the wrong terminology.
I only slept about 6 hours last night so I felt the need to take a nap and that's usually when I nod off and "wake up" in waking paralysis or with OBE symptoms, though recently it has been mostly the latter (Thank God). Ok, how do I explain this. I have so many mixed memories or shadown memories (sort of as described in some part of Part 1 in AD). I remember snapping out of the sleeping state or whatever it was, still lingering in a slight trance (?) and having the sensation of some energy running up my right leg (had almost the exact same experience the other day) and I was thinking to myself maybe it was my projected double reuniting with my physical counterpart. And then I remember being in a horny trance state, which happens to me a lot and I don't like it because it is draining and doesn't feel good. And I don't remember much of it but I know I had some orgasms while in that state (didn't feel like physical orgarms do). Between all this I think I was sleeping because I remember some dreams I had too. And then I also remember waking up in a snap-like way, like when gasping for air sort of, and opening my eyes, like "what the hell is going on, did I almost project?" (hard to explain - I hope Robert brings it up in his book) - I remember thinking that my projected double probably exited at that point. Then I might have gone back to sleep or whatnot again and then I "awake" in trance (?) again with OBE symptoms, this time more distinct. I felt the sinking sensation and the vibrations came on and I tried NOT to think about pink elephants, or rather, my physical body. And for a second I thought I blew it but it continued... and I felt a surge going up my throat and some sucking sensation in my ears and some parts loosening from my body drifting upwards.. And I thought about different points out of my body to distract myself from thinking about my body of what was happening. Then I thought "where do I want to go?" And I couldn't come up with a clear destination, my mind kept wandering.. I thought "The Astral" - but then "yeah, but where in the Astral" - "I don't know, I don't remember ever being there!"... and my mind thought of the dream I had just had and I though "No! Not there" and then before I knew it I think I was out of my body. I mean, it didn't feel as real as people describe it and it never has for me so I'm still sort of in doubt as to it's legitimacy. Or rather, I wish it was as real as waking consciousness, I've always been in a blur state when these sort of things happen. So anyway, I was floating about over my body somehow but not exactly feeling my energy body (projected double's body) clearly. I didn't have astral sight and wanted to see (especially my physical body on the bed so I would know it was real) so I tried opening my eyes and it felt like trying to open one's physical eyes when it's not possible (don't know if you've ever experienced that) so I gave up. I had a sense of where I was (where in my room) and where my body was. Then I thought "better get back to my body so I will remember this" but then I was in another part of my room, near the wall and my door and I thought I'd try to feel how it felt going through the closed door/wall.. but I didn't feel the door or wall.. it was very vague then I was back in my body. The whole time I was outside my body I was thinking about how weird it felt, because I felt kind of like electricity was going through me or rather like I was made up of an electrifying energy/force and it wasn't nice. And my energetic body/astral body wasn't clear as was nothing else -- I felt like I had some "stuff" around my body, like it wasn't outlined like a "normal" body and that I had electrical cordes or wires or whatever to call them attached to or hanging from my body and all the time the accopanying electrical buzzing or astral noise in my ears. I felt sort of disapointed that everything was so blurry/hazy/unclear/unreal.. I wanted it to feel concrete, yet I was grateful for the experience, don't know if that makes any sense. Also I felt like it was draining or unhealthy to be out of my body, so it made me want to return. Maybe this was because I was too close to my physical/etheric mind/body? I didn't have a pulling feeling at all though. After reentering my physical body I was left with that buzzing electrifying feeling all over and in my body. It felt like that for a long time afterwards and I was quite disoriented and had to walk around my house until I felt like I was really here. Then I came on here to write about it and I realize now this might be a very long post.. oops. Oh well, reading it is voluntary.
Now to my questions: What is real in terms of OBE's? Was my experience an OBE? If it was, was it an OBE in real-time without real-time sight? Why didn't it feel real if it indeed was real? Is it a "bad" sign that I felt so disoriented afterwards (does that mean I was being drained energetically, perhaps by being too near my physcial body)?
Thanks for baring with a currently confused person! [
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I think this might be an arduous experience to describe but maybe OBE's usually are, if that is what I experienced. I have only read Part 1 of Astral Dynamics and haven't read any other books on the subject so bare with me if I'm using the wrong terminology.
I only slept about 6 hours last night so I felt the need to take a nap and that's usually when I nod off and "wake up" in waking paralysis or with OBE symptoms, though recently it has been mostly the latter (Thank God). Ok, how do I explain this. I have so many mixed memories or shadown memories (sort of as described in some part of Part 1 in AD). I remember snapping out of the sleeping state or whatever it was, still lingering in a slight trance (?) and having the sensation of some energy running up my right leg (had almost the exact same experience the other day) and I was thinking to myself maybe it was my projected double reuniting with my physical counterpart. And then I remember being in a horny trance state, which happens to me a lot and I don't like it because it is draining and doesn't feel good. And I don't remember much of it but I know I had some orgasms while in that state (didn't feel like physical orgarms do). Between all this I think I was sleeping because I remember some dreams I had too. And then I also remember waking up in a snap-like way, like when gasping for air sort of, and opening my eyes, like "what the hell is going on, did I almost project?" (hard to explain - I hope Robert brings it up in his book) - I remember thinking that my projected double probably exited at that point. Then I might have gone back to sleep or whatnot again and then I "awake" in trance (?) again with OBE symptoms, this time more distinct. I felt the sinking sensation and the vibrations came on and I tried NOT to think about pink elephants, or rather, my physical body. And for a second I thought I blew it but it continued... and I felt a surge going up my throat and some sucking sensation in my ears and some parts loosening from my body drifting upwards.. And I thought about different points out of my body to distract myself from thinking about my body of what was happening. Then I thought "where do I want to go?" And I couldn't come up with a clear destination, my mind kept wandering.. I thought "The Astral" - but then "yeah, but where in the Astral" - "I don't know, I don't remember ever being there!"... and my mind thought of the dream I had just had and I though "No! Not there" and then before I knew it I think I was out of my body. I mean, it didn't feel as real as people describe it and it never has for me so I'm still sort of in doubt as to it's legitimacy. Or rather, I wish it was as real as waking consciousness, I've always been in a blur state when these sort of things happen. So anyway, I was floating about over my body somehow but not exactly feeling my energy body (projected double's body) clearly. I didn't have astral sight and wanted to see (especially my physical body on the bed so I would know it was real) so I tried opening my eyes and it felt like trying to open one's physical eyes when it's not possible (don't know if you've ever experienced that) so I gave up. I had a sense of where I was (where in my room) and where my body was. Then I thought "better get back to my body so I will remember this" but then I was in another part of my room, near the wall and my door and I thought I'd try to feel how it felt going through the closed door/wall.. but I didn't feel the door or wall.. it was very vague then I was back in my body. The whole time I was outside my body I was thinking about how weird it felt, because I felt kind of like electricity was going through me or rather like I was made up of an electrifying energy/force and it wasn't nice. And my energetic body/astral body wasn't clear as was nothing else -- I felt like I had some "stuff" around my body, like it wasn't outlined like a "normal" body and that I had electrical cordes or wires or whatever to call them attached to or hanging from my body and all the time the accopanying electrical buzzing or astral noise in my ears. I felt sort of disapointed that everything was so blurry/hazy/unclear/unreal.. I wanted it to feel concrete, yet I was grateful for the experience, don't know if that makes any sense. Also I felt like it was draining or unhealthy to be out of my body, so it made me want to return. Maybe this was because I was too close to my physical/etheric mind/body? I didn't have a pulling feeling at all though. After reentering my physical body I was left with that buzzing electrifying feeling all over and in my body. It felt like that for a long time afterwards and I was quite disoriented and had to walk around my house until I felt like I was really here. Then I came on here to write about it and I realize now this might be a very long post.. oops. Oh well, reading it is voluntary.
Now to my questions: What is real in terms of OBE's? Was my experience an OBE? If it was, was it an OBE in real-time without real-time sight? Why didn't it feel real if it indeed was real? Is it a "bad" sign that I felt so disoriented afterwards (does that mean I was being drained energetically, perhaps by being too near my physcial body)?
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