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I am pretty much using NEW along with the Workbook on this website...I try to follow it...but I seem to be a bit ahead of it...and am in the process of learning about stimulating chakras...i went through the program though, spent weeks on the secondary energy centers...and am now at the point where i dont feel lots of energy waves when i do my energy work just my feet and hands tickle and some hot and cold sensations...I sometimes use a brainwave cd to sleep with at night that help me get lucid when dreaming...I had 3 lucid moments in dreams last night but nothing really to share....so everything is going good here just somedays are more successful than others. Thanks for asking.....

Reminds me of something that happened a couple months back, I had just started NEW and had only began stimulating my awareness. I was annoyed with my wifes tossing and turning so I soon headed downstairs to log my dreams on my computer, laid down on the couch and thought i would try awareness exercises, soon got discouraged and turned on my right side. Right before falling asleep I noticed a fluttering like a moth under my skin right by my left shoulder, to the left of my spine. Took note of this but did not think much of it, soon later dreamt of work and had a Lucid Dream which somehow I turned into a OBE and found myself in my living room, walking through my house turning around and watching myself from safe distance laying on the couch, I have had the feelings since but they were at work, unmistakable, but never purposely been able to recreate this sensation. So I have other sensations that started this week, Im not sure where it will lead me, but I am there to follow.

Sounds like energy in the facial area causing the pain, what Robert Bruce described as the cobweb effect, can be a tickle or pins and needles.

when i tried to do the energy work the way that i explained above I was not in a trance either..........

Thought I would post something that I tried yesterday seemed to work pretty good for me, I know that the NEW system is not based off visulization but the great thing about astral work there is no one way to do things, some things work for some and not others so...I was doing my NEW work setting up in bed, and as I was stimulating my feet I started to think a bit about the Golden Dawn body of light technique, as I did this I thought of my double doing the same thing that I was, so as I visualized him, I put myself where he was across the room and finished my NEW work from his perspective, this did 2 things for me, I worked on raising energy and I also worked on my visualization skills, the result was I had stronger visulization of the double as I finished my NEW work up for the day, I dont really see any drawbacks to this? If anyone has an opinion on this, please reply. If you think its a good idea, I found it easier to concentrate on the body of light this way and my mind did not wander because I was working on my NEW also.

Hello

Occult is a fancy way of saying secret or hidden. It can almost be anything, but occult practices are something that you do that there is not a scientific answer for. So yes astral work would fall in that category but than again so would the study of ufos and magick. Is it negative, arent things negative when you make them that way in your head, astral kinda teaches that our thought processes is what makes anything looked at in a negative light. I am a Mason, I guess some of our things that we look at could be seen in a secretive manner or occult studies. Never go by what organized religion believes that are negative or occultic or you would not be able to do anything that you enjoy because there is always gonna be someone out there that dissapproves of something that you might do, just because they do not understand how to live freely and explore our human boundaries.

Hello yes currently I am on Day One of the workbook, I recieved AD in the mail last week and have read half of it, I have worked with AP for some time, got sidetracked for awhile and now back at it everyday working. Receiving good results just by implementing the NEW system into what I had previously learned (before reading what I have of AD). So I thought for the heck of it I would just try to use the workbook just to have a schedule or timeline for implementing the NEW system in with my projection technique. Currently I attempt to project every evening an hour after dinner and than when I lie down for the night, I also use some BWGEN presets in the afternoon and have found those quite useful, but biggest results are the days I work with NEW than at night I almost automatically go into my vibrations state, I can even keep them going if I open my physical eyes and look around the room (very concious of my surroundings). So I gave you way to much information, I will check back in a week and tell you what I think of the workbook.

Aron