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Not sure how to feel about anything Castenada wrote or people endorsing Castenada. He ended up forming an ugly cult that destroyed famillies, and having a brainwashed harem of females, some of them killing themselves after he died.
Don't like that part about having to retreat from the world and it's activities, you end up like a weirdo locked himself in a room all day talking to voices in your head, not good.
At the end of the day, don't take any of this too seriously.

Rangstormer the reason you have had little to no success in 10 months is that, the truth is that 99% of the people here have not had a concise OBE or Lucid Dream.
ANY BODY CAN SAY THEY know HOW TO ASTRAL PROJECT BUT HAVE ANY OF YOU REALLY Actually DONE SO "only you can answer that
Thank You
Loki666       

I think someone is really,really jelly

You actually seem to do a lot of those things suggested. Try:

B. Go to sleep (very tired) with lights on, during day time. Sharp lights, so the light will wake you. This induces SP, which wakes the mind but not the body. When SP, think ur self "forward, forward, forward".

guess I'm not the only one.

It would have taken you an hour if not for the hocus-pocus audiobook that kept distracting you.
Lying still with the right mindset will eventually get you there.
3 hours for some mild buzzing just ain't worth it.

*removed link to Sylvan Muldoon book*

look what I found

edited link out, contained copyrighted information ~Xanth

there is a big one but you prolly already know it...there are a few smaller ones but those are secret.  

you mean this occult site?.

Lately I am trying to learn a new song for my acoustic guitar.Sometimes I get the song really well other times I just suck at it.
It wasn't a lucid dream but I was half-awake.I had the guitar and just started playing the song.I could clearly hear every note, the hand-eye coordination was perfect and the fretboard would slightly glow were I should have had my fingers, the motion was fluid and constant.Everything was perfect and I just felt the song.Usually it's like a battle between me and the instrument but in the dream everything seemed clear and easy.
When I woke up and started playing again nothing changed I just couldn't retain the peace and quietness of my dream.
The musician in me, can I let him express in real life?

Your body/mind got used the vibration/pulsing/surge of energy you experienced the first time so it doesn't panic anymore when you try to project.
My first exit experiences were shocking,frightening, intense.Now all I get is a mild buzzing and that's when I know I have to get out until full paralysis sets in and I'm literally stuck.

I still remember the day when I became literally conciouss of me.I was 4 and from that point on I somehow started thinking,having memories.It was like a fog lifted from me and I existed, I thinked, worried and had memories.The moment is so precise that I am still amazed by it every time.
I can't remember anything from when I was even younger except what I consider a traumatic event.It was cold outside and I had to go to what I know is the doctor.I don't know how but I was just 2 years and I was walking down a hallway.I remember being frightened and even felt that smell you get in hospitals, that gives you nausea, headaches.The doctor then made me a vaccine and what I remember is the fear,pain, cold and being absolute helpless, the needle piercing my skin.After that my memories are just fogged and at some point at the age of 4 everything is continuous and clear.
This memory was confirmed when I visited the doctor at the age of five.The building and the setting was the same in every detail.I still get that chill down my spine when someone takes blood from me.

That sounds like an awesome experience!

If you get good enough at it could you try and get on the internet in the past and create an account here called SoulTravelTest and make a thread titled omgijustsoultravelled. At the moment I'm posting this those strings dont appear on these forums(or google). If you could do that it would properly blow my mind.

If you can't find the topic it means that it will never appear, no matter how many times he will try, we won't see this happening, maybe in a paralel univers.

And to the topic, it's not like I don't belive what he felt.But when I read his experience the thought that this happens when someone tries to time travel and get into his youger body suddendly appeared.What if he experienced what he believed it will happen.He didn't conciosuly created this experience but his opinions and beliefs.And he will say that it felt to real to not be true, but what if it was his expectation that when he will get into his younger body everything will seem real, physical?The fact that he wasn't allowed into his younger body, maybe it's because he expected to not be allowed to posses another human body, because the one of the first things that you learn when starting to AP is that you can't be possesed by anyone.
I'm sure you will have great succes with time travel and will have similar experiences, but I don't see any topic written by your past self.

rem and ryuk ))

The Astral Projection one kind creeps me out though...

I tried it to and it really is scary but it has no effect until know

adrenaline rush is my favorite so far

Darth Chipmunk!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiloZd1H4ow&feature=related

how can I type in that chat?

ghost hound huh, "This world we live in, the "Apparent World" had another counterpart since long before the cyber age. From ancient times, people referred to it as the "Unseen World."

Taro, Makoto and Masayuki are three junior high school boys who live in Suiten, a small town in a remote region of Northern Kyushu. Each one experienced a trauma in their childhood they could not erase. Because of this, or of other reasons, they all learned to traverse to the Unseen World, by slipping their souls.

Ghosts dwelling in the Unseen World, did never manifest in the Apparent World. However, the Unseen World was going through an adverse change.

And now, that change is starting to extend into the Apparent World..."

Heard of it before but didn't know it focused on projections, omg Ryuk, this isn't you is it.. it has to be you- http://psgels.blogsome.com/2008/04/04/ghost-hound-review-92100/#comment-23200, amazing.. as I just went to that site to see psgel's review of it because I remember he had before. Ryuk is based off death note?

Yep it was me and of course it's based on Death Note

I just have to bump the topic again 
Everyone must watch it sometimes it just amazes me on how direct is information presented here.By episode 5 they even tell about the Monroe Institute.The sound and art is AMAZING.

I don't think it doesn't matter body position that much.There was a time when I thought that you can have OBEs only when lying on your back but as it turned out it's easier for me to exit when lying on my stomach.

they don't have to know what you belive in.If they share your belief they won't have to know further explanations.If they don't they won't understand

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Nice post. Yes. Use spell check.

Your point will be lost on many. Projection is an art. It is a practice. It is not something you do off the cuff. Time must be set aside. YES you can have an experience from sheer exhaustion or phenomenal stress. That is not the point however. Yes accidents do happen.  "Only through the fire of acts is heaven brilliant and hell aflame", its what you do that makes it work. Too many people want something for nothing. So, you had a couple experiences that opened your eyes to possibility. Great. DO something about it. I have as busy a life as anyone yet there is always time to practice, even if it yields no results at that time. The practice is what will yield results.
I'm really sorry to see so many people here downplay "meditation" as some kind of unnecessary "new age" BS. Meditation is the science of mind. It is personal, objective and necessary. If you don't give yourself that time you are missing out on the critical link. It IS the link to that which you seek. Practice it over and over and over and over and over and over until it is natural. I don't care how scientific you want to make things. You can drift in the lower realms forever, or, find out just what your "mind" is made of. It will not be done by any other means than "meditation". Please argue if you would like. By "you" I mean those who disagree. 

Enjoy it!

the main idea of my post was that you can't get drunk without alcohol and that by knowing the biological conditions you can achive OBE's much faster and without wasting precious time like I did once.I won't talk about meditation(I don't have your experiences) but I do disagre with a lot of the New Age nonsense that confuses and slows a lot of people and gets you nowhere.
OBE's have a physical explanation.Why desconsider that when it is the MAIN way to have any experience?You realize that without that unusual mix of chemicals in your brain you won't get nothing.Some get that mix in a natural way or doing meditation like you stated.Others like me don't have the natural talent and I don't have to explain myself for why I don't have time.I tried but I couldn't.All or nothig for me in my opinion.This means I should stop?.If something gives constant and great results, why go from A to B by first going in C?."Because it's the road and not the destination that matters.Because you have a blockage preventing you from projecting.Because you have to raise more energy".These are the kind of answers that I just can't accept anymore.If this scientic, lower plane method will help me and it really helps me, then I don't see any problem.All the roads lead to the same destination.

"sheer exhaustion or phenomenal stress?"From my post it is clear that you need a rested mind.
"Too many people want something for nothing" because you can't figure out a simpler path it means they don't deserve it?

I seriously don't see this topic at all and I think it's the best thing for begginers to know.
First of all OBE's have a biologycal cause, you just can't lie in bed and then make a quick exit.No matter how emotionaly, mentaly prepared you are if the physical conditions in your brain aren't recreated then it equals zero.
No offence, but most of the begginers are introduced to energy work, meditation, chakras, reiki, etc(especially on this forum).You need time to practice them(and when you live with a family you can't tell them "Just go away I wanna get out of my body") and a lot of patience.If you wanna waste years just to OBE be my guest, ever wondered why yogis take years to prepare and they don't have to worry about tomorrow, a job, school and life in general.They have all the time they need but they don't claim results in 2 months.So we should expect the average, woried man to get results in a couple of months?
And we have the vibrational state, the state everyone who begins tries to reach it.When I began I never knew what to expect, what they are so when I first experienced them I was shocked and really believed they were somethin supernatural, unbelivable with no explanation.After looking better on the net I found it's about sleep paralysis.You don't belive how many people experience it but they either hide it, or it happened in their childhood and don't remember.
So it's clear that triggering sleep paralysis gives you the best chance to OBE and that it is the main way to project.Sleep paralysis occurs in REM sleep when you become concious of the buzzig, tingling feeling that surges your body(at least in my case).
Nightly OBE practices are less effective because Non-REM sleep is dominant(you still get REM but only after you really are asleep and unconciuos, meaning you failed in your practice) while morning practices have a bigger chance of success because you get more REM sleep.
For the modern man there are really big problems:he has a job or school so it's hard for him to wake up at 3 or 4 am when he has to get up at 6 or 7 and without the others wondering "why the hell you wake up every morning at 4 am?".Plus it's tirring for the rest of the day.He has Saturday and Sunday but we know OBE'S most of the times just don't happen for the average practitioner .He is left with the nightly practices when your mind is tired, unable to concentrate after a hard day of work, worries coming and going and all the time and he just goes to sleep without projecting.Sometimes, because of some random reasons his mind is more alert and get's into sleep paraylis.And know he must practice an exit technique...and he fails wondering what went wrong.
From what I said it is clear that being rested before you get to bed gives you a MASIVE chance of success and for that all you need is to get a quick nap in the afternoon.When you do this your sleep consists mainly of NREM sleep meaning that when you actually go to sleep your mind will be rested and your body, already having the primary NREM sleep it needed, will get to REM sleep(sleep paralysis condition) much faster.Your mind crystal clear, body that gets into sleep paralysis much quicker, what more could you ask?It doesn't matter when you get that nap(at 6 pm the earliest for an hour-hour and a half, there's no need for more)
At this stage every method will work.Visualizations, affirmations, etc. all will work.You might even chose to simply do nothing and let your mind wander (for someone full with OBE tehniques this would seem realy dumb).Even so, it won't work every time(people would be OBE'ing like crazy) but it really increasese your chances.In theory it sounds perfect but you know, practice makes perfect.
Hope I helped some people that are currenty lost in meditations, energy work, chakras, etc.They may be good but they weren't made for OBE's.

I'm curious to see if what happens to me aplies to you.
I won't go in details but in last night's OBE I was falling and then BAM!! I hit the ground like a brick with the back of my head.Normally I think you would be in horrible pain but, to my amasement, I felt no pain whatsoever.The back of my head just seemed like it was on anesthesics with a nice, cool feeling exapnding from the point I hit the ground.
My question is:have you felt any sort of pain while in an AP, the kind of pain you get from a bad injury, or it is just a feeling asociated with the physical body?

started reading about religion,beliefs and yoga.
AP seemed so ridiculous for me and I had the curiosity of searching about it to see "how dumb and crazy some people can be".It seemed such a stupid thing at that time but I was so bored that I just tried.I was lucky to experience a deep and shoking trance/sleep paralysis/energy movement on my 3rd try and then I knew that this stuff, even if it defied common sense, logic and my entire beliefs, was real.
Even now I'm amazed on how the circumstances were formed for me so that I would get in to this whole AP thing.

from what I experieced, it feels very colourfull, very detailed.You will be amazed on how bright and coloured everything feels

Robert Peterson's book got me into AP.Simple, interesting exactly what you need when you are an open minded skeptic like I was.