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#1
Hey, ive been reading and learning the astral scene for about a year now, without much accual persuit other than reading and weird un-sure non-successful atempts, and odd & brief waking dreams.

Ive been reading alot more recently and about 10 minutes ago I gave it a fully attentive attempt. So, while its fresh im my mind I will try to explain it if anyone is at all interested. I havent really liked laying flat on my back, so I went out into my living room on this nice plush recliner. Then, proceded to just basically, relax, and keep my mind focused on just remaining awake and not getting antsy, just going with the flow of it. What happend next was my body became more and more relaxed, that is to say, my neck down.
I seemed to have trouble keeping my eyes shut, as if my body was completly asleep but I could at an instant open my eyes and look around if I wanted to, and it was hard to ignore the sound of a fan. and im sure if the fan was off, I would hear how loud silence can be at times [:P]. Anyhow I figured that my acustic and visual senses would follow my sense of touch eventually (which it seemed to be fully asleep and numb). After my mind was fairly clear and not much jumped into my head other than proceeding. Then I tried what Ive read about where you try to visualize yourself moving, or falling through the bed/chair, Which lead me to the main experence.

I began feeling my body sway and move about like weird swaying at an un-known tidelike feeling. But the thing is its almost as if you broke down projecting into 3 parts like sight, hearing and touch, (nevermind those lousy smell and taste senses [:P]) I would say that my body/touch was way more ready to go and it was this off balance of overly-tactile asleep body, and lack of visual and hearing (mind too awake lol) that was a weird part of this whole experence. Perhapse I have drank too much pop today because im kinda wired even now [;)].

but what happend next kinda took a turn for the worse, and im having trouble remimbering and finding explination for what happend. It is as if I started off not fully realizing what extactly it is to project, and just trying it out just because it interests me, like waiting in line for a roller coaster ride as a child. once its your turn (I dont know what your first roller coaster ride expereinces are like but I think its a good example) it can be very very frightening. and as I felt my body squirming and alot of touch-sensory stuff, I paniced. my heart pounded, and I still remained very calm and assesed and rationalized what I was feeling. and over all it wasn't very pleasent, and I asked myself "do I really want to go out?" and just like my first rollercoast ride, as I got closer to the sounds of people yelling/screaming (fun-screams! [:P]) and the loud carts barling around on the tracks, I chickend out (Just like when I was younger and aproached the ride). After it sort of peaked my heart pounded harder and I sort of came back to my waking senses, and I started to feel pretty sick, and shaken up sort of like being near an accident or some alarming thing. (probably because my body would naturaly associate what I was doing with death) not to say it will stop me, but it gives me a good idea of what will needs to be overcome if I want to try again.

This whole topic has been much longer than I Intended, and im not sure if this is even the proper thread or if anyone is interested. But I guess the thing is when it came down to it I was very divided as to if it is right to project, or if I want to...

-thanks for reading [:D]

#2
Welcome to Magic! / Raom Gaom
September 22, 2003, 01:21:33
Well, I guess this would be the apporpreite(sp?) place to post this question...

"Rrrrraaaaaaooooommmm Ggggggaaaaaaoooooommmm"

Suposedly this is a "mantra" that is suposed to help recall dreams when you emmidiatly wake up, not to be said aloud but said in your head.  Im currently taking the self awareness course on mysticweb *gasp* thats right, mysticweb, the scary scary place that has been spoken of here quite a bit. Im one of those classic people that found mysticweb first, and then found this place... I like to have many sources of info, and im NOT buying a book (sorry bruce) at least not right now.

Anyhow, what is this chant? or mantra or what ever... I thought this course was going to be a little down to earth and less magical. not to say I won't do the mantra, but I just thought that first I would consult my trusted pals at astral pulse :D

Another thing, im kinda conflicted with this whole beazelbub thing, I was following that big long post for a while, but it seemed rediculously preconcieved that he was all wrong and deamonized..

but for now, no harm in taking the course, unless this raom gaom thing is harmful...[}:)][:P]

#3
So Frank, your saying that you attend lectures in the astral? and learn from professors in astral universities? cool! heh[:P]
#4
I remimber reading another thread with the same idea, and someone posted a link to here...

http://www.abardoncompanion.com/BAM.pdf

Its pretty interesting, Its pretty much like you have to sync the right time & place. And everyone might not percieve an action or event the same, there is even a part that talks about one of the people missing the meeting one night, but projecting the following night and it synced up.
#5
Welcome to Magic! / Raom Gaom
September 26, 2003, 01:39:51
Come on, no one knows? not even a clue?
#6
Welcome to Magic! / THE LAW OF PRAGMATISM
September 22, 2003, 01:34:52
Whats Pragmatisim? hehe
#7
Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / kundalini
August 17, 2003, 15:25:47
Ah yes, the Triforce... Wisdom, Courage, and Power :P

dont get power first or you will be like Gannon, all evil and without the wisdom and courage :P


also, dont attack chickens, or pigs, as they will rise up and attack you...

(nintendo game)[:P]
#8
Indeed, John's motives dont seem to be money, if you recently seen him on the jimmy kimmel show, he spoke of sticking to his fixed ammount for private interviews, which was somthing like a hundred bucks, or a couple hundred or somthing. Also there is a waiting list, and aparently NO ammount of money can get you a differnt spot on the waiting list.

As for the people that claim its the truth, period. probly need a litle bit more skepticism [:P]

I will admit that there are ALOT of geniunly belivable moments, but how long are these shows? As anyone would know most all television shows are edited, thats another aspect of it...

I wonder if there are long moments where hes just shooting in the dark for a looong time?
#9
I think hes a fake, first off, by the structure of how it works. He has a room full of people, and obviosly somthing obscure with jump out to *someone*. For example, he will aparently get some sort of "message" from the otherside, like claim he is seeing some small black dog(or any othe obscure thing like that). Then he confusingly looks around trying to pin it to someone, and then goes on to make even more vauge claims, and builds it up, and oftin works up from there. He will make a VAUGE claim, then bend it, kinda change it to fit.

anyone know what I mean? on the other hand he does do private interviews, and how exactly that works I dont know, but the group thing seems really questionable to me...

Also at times, it seems really beliveable and it just makes me wonder how the hell hes doing it, my pairinoid ideas are that he has a earpiece, and a staff that does stuff, hehehe [:P] there have been many scandles like this in the past, and also there have been much much more technology advances such as instant background checks on people, death certificates and such, and a micro ear peice, lol, now im ashamed of this last paragrah, just an idea [:P]