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I suppose i can make a prediction lol

Now i cant put a time frame on this but... i predict that BUSH will be voted WORST PRESIDENT EVER []

Hi all

I posted a similar thread months ago but had no replies, so I am going to give it another go.

I am curious to know if any members would be willing to admit to being abducted by aliens (for want of a better word) and if they would be willing to share any knowledge that those visitors might have passed on in regards to any events coming in the near future.

I think it would be interesting to gather different information given under those circumstances and hopefully if we get enough comments we can find similarities that we could take as a prophecy from an"outside" source.

I dont want any information from guides or mediums, just people that were actually abducted.

I am sure there is plenty of these people here... just not sure if anyone is willing to admit it.

Oh by the way, i dont have any recolection of being abducted myself but my intuition tells me i have.

Hi everyone []

We have all heard of Prophecies brought on by visions, dreams and oracles of one kind or another, but i havnt come across what we might class as prophecies from external beings as such accept those that have been channeled or glimpses you get from abduction books.
i know people channel beings and gleam information that way but what i would like to do here is try and attract anyone that is willing to put forward information either from themselves or from someone very close to them that may have been abducted and has knowledge passed onto them.
I understand most abductions come across as memories of dreams and that is fine as long as you beleive that dream was brought on by an abduction. but what we want most of all is the experiences that seem the most vivid where you have been given information.

I dont want you to justify the fact that you were abducted, cause i dont want you to have to prove it to me or anyone else, we dont want any personal information about who you are, all we want here is any information that they might have passed on to you or a very close friend or family member of either events happening now or in the near future, in the hope that we may compile a source of information from any race of ET being that may be termed as prophecies.

I like to think that this type of information once compiled from a few different sources will be more accurate than any one single persons aquired information or any channeled information.

I dont want to know if you were probed, poked, or prodded lol... just what they told you or what you might have seen pertaining to coming events. If you dont want to post it here in the forum with your name then email me with your experience and i will gladly post it here for you as "Anonymous".


I dont have any recolection of any abductions my self (as in actual memories of abduction) but i know i have these experiences and i just cant remember them. i choose not to be hypnotised on any events in my past that seem like key moments in life that would be ideal to start any hypnotherapy session but i have been 50 meters from what i class a "ufo" and that is something i will never forget.
The closest thing that i can think of that might have been brought on from an experience is a vision i had about seven years ago. In this vision i was literaly somewhere else, i knew i was in my home sitting on my bed but what i was seeing was literaly somewhere else (oops! im justifying). Anyway... in this vision i was standing on a ship (space ship.. for lack of a better word), looking thru transparent walls about 10,000 feet above the ground and staring down at the ground as i was lifting up. I never actually spoke to anyone or even seen anyone for that matter cause i was so absorbed in staring at the earth as i rose higher. As i stared down i started to see fires breaking out in different parts of the land below and i felt a great sorrow for everyone that was about die that was left behind (not meaning everyone that was left but a lot) but for some reason i knew that what was about to happen was unavoidable, and just the natural cycle of the earth. i knew many of us were leaving and i knew it would be a while before i came back, and then i snapped out of it.
I cant say deffinately that this was brought on by any abduction or information from an outside source, but i beleive it was and i would be very interested if someone has had a similar experience and or gained knowledge on a similar situation thru abduction.

I look forward to anyone that might find this remotely interesting or that has something they would like to contribute.

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obviously you didnt realise it wasnt a prediction or an observation but a joke
no wonder there is so much aggression at this site... you people need to lighten up a bit

just remember... smile and the whole world smiles with you... well... maybe not the whole world... but someone might []

Hi Tayesin

Thanx for the "welcome back"

I think you may be onto something with the time lock idea, and i think it could apply on a few different levels i.e. close to events, spiritual growth...

Hopefully people in the forum may have some memories of conversation so we can compare different conversations with different beings, and then maybe pick up on things that may happen in the near future or see what the agendas are of the races.

I have read many books on abduction, and most of then just try to justify that they were abducted. Hopefully if we can move past the justification aspect of abduction we can concentrate on the actual messages behind them, and hopefully... just hopefully, we can get a glimps of events to come.

Bugga!! [B)]

Hi halfphased

Thanx for the reply

Its hard to be sure of things like that while under an influence like that lol. Could have been a day dream or it might have actually been a triggered memory.

quote:not being prepared for such an encounter, I was a little freaked out

I think the fear brought on by such experiences suppresses the memory of it, and induced methods can sometimes help to release them. But then the cleche of "he must be on drugs" comes along. But i beleive that those types of inducement methods can be beneficial if used in the right way rather than abused like so many seem to do.

Do you remember if they showed or told you anything?

Hi all

I want to share a vision i had once that "i beleive" was alien related.

I was sitting in a room talkin to one of my mates once when all of a sudden in the middle of the conversation i was somewhere else. I knew i was still in my room with my mate, but what i was seeing was so vivid and real, i felt like i was in 2 places at the same time.

Ok enough of trying to justify it... i'll get to what i saw.

I was standing on a ship (alien craft) looking down at the country side surrounding a town not far from where i live now. I knew i was standing on something solid but the walls were transparent. As i look down at the ground i could see fires starting to break out everywhere.
Now for the strange bit... i knew i was leaving earth and i knew that the earth was about to experience some really bad things. Not only was the "dark-ones" going to kill many, but i also knew that the earth was going to go thru its own cleansing, such as earthquakes and tidal waves.

The feeling that came over me was pure sadness. I knew many would die but i also knew that what was about to happen was meant to be.

Then i was ripped back to the conversation with my mate. It was to real and to vivid to have been a daydream, so i beleive it was a vision.

A dream i had about 2 years after that vision was of me walking out into the backyard, when i looked up i seen a triangle shaped craft, it was black, and as it passed over the top it release a ball of compressed flame. This ball seemed to float down slowly and hit the trees beside the house then disperse like Napalm. It all seemed like it was in slow motion, and im not sure why it focused on the trees and not the house.
I have had a couple of dreams involving these crafts and the huge orange balls that they release and i am interested to see if anyone else has has a similar experience.

Hi beavis

Thanks for the reply. I read your description of what you seen on the other thread, very interesting, i have heard of dumbell or bone shape ones before but i never heard them described with the black ring in the middle. Thanks for sharing []

now we just need some more to reply

Interesting stuff chill

But from what i can gather, and i think kazbadan was implying the same thing, is that NONE if this information is new. All it does is re-cap and sumerise what other authors have put forward in the past. If the Pleiadians are here to help us then why just repeat stuff we already know? yes they are trying to give us a message, but it is the same message that scientist, channelers, prophets, greenies, spiritualists and many others try putting across. If this information is from a higher source be it pleiadian, zeta or even just spirits, then why dont they tell us something we dont know.

Ok so if the pleiadians are the ones that created us through their master abilities with genetics then are they the ones from nibiru?

Was it a joint venture at the time of our creation, being that it wasnt just the pleiadians but a combined effort brought on thru the galactic high cancel ?

If it was a combined affort... was the "dark-ones" or "reptilians" apart of this galactic council at the time?

I beleive that the "reptilians" were originaly a part of the creation of man in a joint venture, and i beleive the rift between the races happened due to the fact that Enlil took over from his father Anu being the first born, when politicaly it was Enki's right to assume the position due to the marriage of Anu and the "Dragon queen".
This would leave way for not only pleiadians or anunaki to lay claim to us as our "creators" but also the reptilians. If any war is happening or even will happen between these External races then it will be over the claim of us humans.

As chill pointed out... if this is a free will zone, then that would tell me that we chose to receive information from the pleiadians (or who ever) willingly. so if we willingly chose to accept this information then why is it they have to pass it on in a sub-conscious manner, fooling us into the validity of the information thru the fact that the recipient is thinking he is having a "spiritual" experience. I willingly accept any information that the pleiadians or any other external race wish to present to me as long as i am in a conscious frame of mind and consciously give permision for them to give me information that may effect the humans as a race. The fact that it is on the subconscious level that most of this is being done leaves a lot to be desired as to the sincerity to the whole thing. to me it seems more like it is manipulating us on a sub-conscious level with a hidden agenda and lack of respect of our free will. Im sure the galactic council would be against manipulation of the direction of the human race on all levels and dimensions sinse they are a multi-dimensional organisation and that includes our spiritual realms.

This post is in no way meant to insult or offend anyone in any way. Im just stating my opinion and beleifs and the reader should "him or her self" read this and any other post in this web site and come to your own conclusions as to what u think or feel about it. If i am wrong then so be it, cause im not pleaidian... i am only human.

[beauty]

wow chill!

you are so right, and i think that so many spiritual people get so caught up in reading spiritual books or trying to AP out of the body and they seem to forget the basics and that is the needs of the body and the needs to sustain life (i.e. breathing, eating, staying healthy and yes of course work to sustain all those things). when you posted that next post asking "where is the spirituality in that?.. a/ everywhere, you hit the nail on the head. Being spiritual is about living, experiencing and being happy with yourself, cause if you are not happy you wont feel fulfilled. Now taking that into account then Soulfire hit the nail on the head aswell, and that was living life, fulfilling all the basic needs and also taking the time to admire all the beauty around you. Once those basic needs are met and you start to see the beauty around you then you start to feel a sense of well being, happiness and contentment, this raising your energy levels and making other spiritual endeavors such as meditation, AP, and even talking to your guides much easier and way more posative.

So benja... i understand you need your basic needs met and i understand you are stressed about money and have trouble AP'ing because you are stressed, but trying to make money from a pendulum or thru channeled information isnt the way to go about it, so like i said in my original post in response to yours..... go get a job []

jus being a friend []

lol benja!

If your that hard up for money then why aint you out looking for a job instead of sitting here reading what you class as "a nice novell for 5th graders" (with all respect that is [] )

p.s. i think i gave you the answer you were looking for []

[Tao]

Tao

thank you kindly for the points you put across in your arguement.

I dont agree with all the points you have put across but i do agree with one or two of them, but due to the fact that i was clearly addressing Mayatnik, im not sure if mayatnik has "appointed" you to address my message to "him", or that you are just a dear friend of his that has decided to take it upon himself to argue a point with me just because i felt that Mayatnik was a little bit rude for not replying to people addressing him.

Im sorry if i have offended Mayatnik in anyway, i was just trying to be a friend and point out that some people like to be addressed by the person they are speaking with, so that in future he might be aware of this fact and in turn not offend the person that is refered to someone "appointed".

Im sure that when Mayatnik started this thread to show people the "advanced methhod" of the pendulum that he had taken his poor eyesight into account and had anticipated that people would ask him questions.

I didnt make that comment to "him" as an insult or to have a debate about it with anyone (especially someone i wasnt even addressing), it was purely as a gentle reminder as a friend so that he dosnt offend anyone, and from what i have seen in this thread so far, Mayatnik wouldnt deliberately mean to offend anyone. but accasionaly we all need our gentle reminders cause we all get caught up in doing things at some point.

If Mayatnik has taken anything that i have said in a negative way then i am sure he will let me know, and we can discuss it between ourselves without a 3rd party intervention.
After all, we are all here to help better ourselves and if a little bit of constructive feedback gets taken in a negative way and someone gets on their high horse and starts getting all defensive, then its obviously the person that is offended whos growth will be stunted.
But until Mayatnik lets me know he was offended, then i will assume that he wasnt, and that he has seen it for what it was intended for, and that is guidance from a friend. []

So as for you Tao, im not sure why you got so defensive when you dont even know if your friend needed defending. Im not sure if you welcome all the new members with such a warm and friendly greeting as you have so generously "not" shown me but i do hope we can have some genuine and decent discussions with each other at some point as two friends on our path of learning.


Squeek - you are very welcome my friend []


Chill - i have absolutely no idea of what the osho zen tarot are but it sounded very interesting and almost touched on a more deeper level then conventional tarot and almost on a rune stone level, but this observation could be way off and i would be very interested in anything else you come up with on the "alien" level with them.


Tayesin - i like ur post very much.
i thought it was well said and very to the point and i also know where you are coming from with this darker race of beings. i look forward to talkin to you more indepth in the future.

hi everyone

this might be way off, but i have thought about things like this for a while following a vision i had about 7 yrs ago. oneday i was contemplating my vision (in the most bizar place ) and came up with the following concept...

to me the future you see, either in vision or dreams cant be changed at all. the future is set out just the same way the past is, meaning you are where you are now thru the choices you made with your own free will, so if you have a vision then that event will happen no matter what because of who you are and the choices you will make. you cant change who you are and only you will make the choices you make thru free will and it is the free will of everyone that maps out the future because everyone can only make the choices they make. i think it comes back to your life is already set out cause you chose this life thru free will before you entered it, and maybe the vision or precog dream is just a memory of what you saw before you chose this life. to me if the vision dont come true then it wasnt a vision but a daydream.

sorry if i lost anyone there cause i nearly lost myself in trying to explain it lol

ahh well i know what i mean []

anyway just a thought and i am in no way saying i am right []

[Truths]

Hello everyone

I was refered not just to this site but to this actual thread by a very close friend (whom i wont name) to view not the topic as such but the interaction of the members. I started at the very beginning a few days ago and was spending a few hours here and there trying to get to the end, and as someone posted earlier i found it very much like "days of our lives" aswell lol. To tell the truth i did see a lot of very useful info on this thread, from the advanced use of the pendulum (even if it didnt discuss the reverse polarity of the human body which "might" explain confusion with responses) to the Pleiadian and Zeta stuff... but any of us can go research a topic to learn and study. To me i learnt the most out of watching how all of you interacted. We are all here to learn our own "Truths" and the fact that we are all here doing so means we will all have our own "Perspectives". None of us will know who is right or the real "Truth" untill we become one with the source.

Mayatnik - I can see that you are a very learned man and have come a long way in your journey along the spiritual path in gaining knowledge. I dont think you are trying to start a cult and im very sorry that some people have stooped to such a low level with some of the accusations they have tried to imply, but i do think you are very rude to assume that you can "Appoint" someone to answer questions when they were directed to you. would you like it if you asked me a question and i said that someone else is intouch with my guide and they can answer for me? just because you are well read and have come along way with your "pleiadian" guide dosnt mean u have to stop being human.

im not here to point fingers but i do think if you are asked a question then you should show some respect and answer that person talking to you and not "appoint" someone else to do it. this isnt a spiritual thing but simple manners and respecting your fellow man.

As for the rest of you, if you dont agree with what someone is saying then dont ACCEPT it... that simple. Ego is a huge thing and if not the biggest thing to over come in the spiritual path. One dosnt have to be well read or all knowing to prove they are spiritual, they just have to know they are on a spiritual path and accept the changes in them selves and not push those changes onto other people.

Squeek - out of all the members in this thread you have shown (to me - being my own opinion) the most spirituality, Not in how much you have read or learnt thru experience but being in your humbleness and willing to learn and better yourself on your path to enlightement and not being sucked in to the ego push and pull but stayed neutral in the hope that you could keep learning. well dun and i personaly think that i could learn a lot from you in my own path to bettering my self, if i havnt already.

Like i said, im not here to point fingers and this being a forum for people to give opinions in the hope that we may see something from a new angle and hence better our selves personally, but as a friend wishing to grow and learn along with you all. I dont have friends so that they can suck up to me or accept what ever i have to say, to me my best friend will tell me i stuffed up and be blunt with me and in turn helping me to be a better person and for that i thank him/her for his/her honesty and bluntness.

Anyway... moving along, personaly most of my spiritual path (but not all ) has been inspired by the "Alien" aspect and the "big event" as i read someone refer to it as. i found the part about the Zeta and pleiadian channeling very interesting even if i dont agree with it all, but just because i dont agree with it all dosnt mean that it dosnt help me to look at it from a different angle and in turn help me to find my own truths even more. i dont dissagree with the idea that there are races more advanced in certain areas trying to help us in our time of need and advancement as a human race and i dont dissagree that they work thru us helping us even on this forum, but to think that it is just the good guys working thru us and on this forum to me is naive. these "Dark-ones" as they were refered to before or "reptilians" in my owm beleif are very good at miss-informing and or even diss-informing us with giving us a certain amount of truth but not all, and i will always look within my self for what i perceive to be true with any information that is presented to me and that includes this forum. In Revalations if you replace the words "God almighty" with "Nibiru" and "The thrown of god" with "Orbit" then you will soon see Revalations in a different light (meaning if you have read up on what sitchin has tried to put across). If you research many of the ancient and even modern prophecies, you will come to your own conclusions as to how things will unfold, and to me, with my own opinion, it is the "Dark-ones" that make themselves known on a consious (i.e. the whole world is aware of them) level to the human race first and in doing so making out they are the good guys to fool us into working with then. so i am always skeptical and questioning to any new information being presented regarding help from an outside source.
Im not saying im right, all im saying is that is where i am at this point in time and what i perceive to be "my Truth". i dont want you to beleive what i beleive, but instead share perceptions so that i too can grow without the ego getting in the way.

Well i think i made this post long enough lol and i look forward to any new information brought forward from the peoples channeling the Pleiadians and Zeta. []

Hmmm im not about to complicate things like for example... "1+1= a complex sum of two numbers to give relevance to the body of 2 individual items as a group" when the answer is as simple as "2"

so in saying that... i thought the meaning of life was to "live" just as the meaning of death is to "die" lol.