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Lol, earlier today I had the thought...  Well, if people see what they hold most strongly in their belief systems in the light after death, do those that created the "Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster" see a flying spaghetti monster welcoming them to their new Belief Territory?

Then I read this!  ^.^  In all seriousness though, have you read about the "teachings" before?  It could be a subconscious rememberance (though I'm still finding it a little freaky I had that thought earlier, when I haven't thought about it in a few years )

Hi everyone!

I've been trying to get into Astral Projection for a while now, but haven't made a huge amount of progress.  I was wondering if I could get some tips and / or reassurance on it.

I've had two experiences so far.  The first, after placing the intent to AP for about a week once I started learning about it, as I was falling asleep I heard someone outside talking, but I couldn't make out what they were saying.  I concentrated on it and it started to clarify - they were a male voice chanting a type of mantra "Thank you God, Thank you, Oh thank you God" - I was very curious as I didn't recognise the voice but kind of knew it wasn't "really" there, but wasn't the kind of Mantra "I" would use.  Then the next thing I know I am aware of my astral body kind of front flipping out of my body (I feel like I lost consciousness for a bit and the subconscious took over), and I was fully aware in my astral body.  I thought, WOW!  This is real!  I decided to go "Up" and went flying right up into darkness and didn't know where the heck I was, then my fears took over and I paniced about getting back.  This launched me straight into a lucid dream (though I didn't know it was a dream at first, I thought I was stuck outside indefinately!) where I worked out the fear.

The next day I felt great that I had overcome the fear but it slowly crept back.  The next experience I was falling asleep and a seeming "other" was leading me through a meditation (though I don't really meditate, so it was new to me!  And not something I had read in any of the AP techniques) telling me to imagine myself wrapped in blackness, warm life giving blackness, beautiful calming birthing blackness, on and on like that...  Again, I woke up in an OBE state and this time managed to travel 2 places though I believe they were in my own subconscious rather than any concenscious areas of consciousness.

Soo...  I feel I'm now ready to *consciously* do this rather than by accident, but I'm at a block.  The thing is, since I started reading about AP I feel like I've lost the ability at times to fall asleep unconsciously.  But whenever this happens, it's always the same thing.  As I drop off to near unconsciousness I suddenly get what I can only label a "brain fry" as that's exactly what it feels like.  I get a huge flash of white (and then my inner vision looks like white static), and large "TWANG" noise and my awareness crystalises hugely.  But *every time* it freaks me out and I wake myself up.  So, what I'm asking is if this is something normal?  If so, what could I expect after this stage?  Or am I really just frying my brain? 

Thanks guys, if I need to clarify it more just let me know

Hey, I'm new here but I thought it was time I started posting.

My realisations about "reality" are constantly evolving, so this is only my opinion at this point in time.  I came to the following opinion a few days ago and I've been thinking about typing it out to consolidate my understanding of it, and it seems to fit this topic, so here goes!

I think the biggest problem is using words, which very very limited, to describe concepts - my understanding of a "soul"may be very different from someone elses understanding of a "soul".  So in this sense, both everyone and everything, as well as noone and nothing has a soul depending on your perspective.  It's why I don't feel comfortable with talking about spirit, soul, God, etc etc because they are just labels and often attached to many different things depending on what understanding you have based on past experience.

Two words I do feel comfortable using are "Consciousness" and "Mind".  I think at this moment in time...  It really is that simple!  Everything has both of these...  The way I see it, in the "beginning" there was only one consciousness, with a mind encompassing everything that could be.  All possibilities existed but nothing could be subjectively experienced because it knew everything, both the good and the bad.  So therefore, it managed to fragment it's mind...  Now, though it was the same consciousness it didn't know what the "others" mind contained, and so it would have to interact and experience the knowing of the "other" - and hence started experiencing subjectively.  Each mind contained a link to the whole, andso could derive information "inwardly" as well as "outwardly".  In this way, the "Mind" fragmented over and over, to create everything we both know and do not know at this moment in time.  We are minds inside minds inside minds.  This is, I feel, how Franks focus levels work - His Focus 2 is our "personal" mind - the collection of everything we are unconsciously that is thrown over the wall to our conscious minds as we interact with the physical.  Then you get to Focus 3 which is a larger shared mind - that of humanity - or possibly this physical universe.  In this way, even we can fragment our own minds and often do - assuming the "Parent" role, the "Partner" role, the "Friend" role - until you get to the point where you can become disconnected with those parts of your mind and they become "other" to you, as you don't wish to own them, hence some mental illnesses.  I also believe these Minds are never completely seperate - only as much as you or "another" wish them to be, and so others can influence your own mind and you can tap into others...  this includes "minds" which do not have a physical existance.  I think is is where Soul Mates come in - those beings which you have spent past existance with which that part of "your" mind is shared, and so you are drawn to each other.  I think everything has a Mind, including atoms etc...  

I hope this makes some sense, but it's my current thinking on the matter and quite hard to put into words!  So if you think of the "Soul" as being what makes you the unique you that you are, then yes - everythin has a soul.  But that soul - Mind - may work very differently to your own.  It may be a series of programmed automatic responses, or it may have the self awareness to chose what it indentifies with and has the ability to change the contents of, for good or bad.  But without the bad, we wouldn't know that the good was good!  (It's very easy for be to say that objectively, but subjectively... not so much )  I know my own mind has plenty of dark corners to it, but I take onboard the need to address and change these as and when I'm ready, as by doing so the group Mind that I also "belong" to - humanity will hopefully be pushed in a lighter direction also.