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#1
Did it expand/felt like it came closer? Or did the whole sight go gradually from black > purple? I sometimes see purple light when I meditate, and it's usually the only color I see.
#2
Quote from: Xanth on April 17, 2010, 14:51:41
Only if you don't realize what's going on.
Familiarize yourself with what to expect and it's great.
What he said. Paralysis isn't scary if you know what's going on, I don't feel afraid/see/hear/feel people/beings anymore (since I've gotten used to SPs), just be aware of what's going on and then instantly keep your mind clear.
Face the fear and act cool and you will stop seeing stuff, the brain most likely makes up creepy stuff based on your subconciousness since it thinks something "evil" is what is keeping you paralyzed.
#3
Don't you think there would a huge sensational story in the media if there was found unknown metal pieces in a man?

And please, don't pull the government trying to cover it up and silence the media-card :-P
#4
That's weird, is the pain induced by anything?

I've felt extreme pain while OBEing btw, check out this post, it hurt as hell. Last time I also failed to project and ended up having weird physical pain going up and down my spine (cracking sound each time and lasting for about 2 seconds in each place, the cracking sound felt so clear it was overwhelming the electricity-sound). If it's the energy/electricity you feel, it might be strong physically so you really feel it?
#5
If we are seeing real demons: How do you then explain that some people able to train them self up to skip or almost completely eliminate the feeling of seeing, hearing or feeling touched, spinning, demons or uncomfortable presences and so on during sleep paralysis?

Someone had a theory that some part of your brain doesn't and can't understand why your body is paralyzed - so it compensates by creating the feeling of something/someone bad doing something to paralyze you (which is based on what you fear most, classic example dark hooded man without visible head or sensations of someone grabbing and holding you). For those who have seen hypnagogic stuff without sleep paralysis, it's a lot of the same style as the hypnagogic stuff SPs are accompanied by, just that SP-hypnagogic hallucinations can be scary.

Quote from: Kiukuwell, if a person is paralyzed, they shouldn't be able to open their eyes, so that makes sense.
Well, I CAN open my eyes during SP, and it's usually more pleasant to keep them closed (I sometimes open them, but I keep them closed if I am going to project).

Quote from: KiukuThere is too much consistency in hallucinations between people to compare them with dreams.
Why does it have to be like a dream to be a product of your brain? the subconscious creates a lot of different things and feelings in all shapes and forms ending in different lunges – dreams, is like so many other forms just another way for your subconscious to project it's creations in my opinion. Hypnagogia and hypnopompia is one of them.

Quote from: kurtykurt42I have read many accounts of individuals that have been abducted or visited by ETs. Many of which describe their bodies becoming paralyzed and they are unable to move. The ET's will then take there body to their ship. Many of the people will describe that the pass right through walls / ceilings and even through the ship. I believe it's their energy body which they are transporting and not the physical body. It's the energy body that contains memories and emotions (which these guys are interested in).
Funky, I think sleep paralysis is the reason people START to see "alien abductions". I've seen a lot of scary stuff, but now I'm friends with the sleep paralysis, and I never see or feel jack excrement of terror or any uncomfortable presence anymore. So I strongly believe it's a result of the subconscious. I used to see what I might have been afraid of/seems weird, and people thinking a lot about or feel aliens as scary or weird will see aliens. Just based on my personal experience since I don't fear SPs anymore.

Quote from: kurtykurt42He was a karate black belt and was very frustrated by the fact that he was completely helpless.
So in other words it was probably one of his biggest fears not being able to move, and he probably saw the same stuff every time since fear feeds of fear. The sword was a way to make him feel safer, just like I think many religious people seek strongness being accompanied by God, faith, etc. to overcome fear. It kills fear cause it makes you feel stronger.
#6
Awesome. I just imagine my hands floating/lifting up while laying still, which started to happen naturally like it's instinctual. Seeing yourself from above is really, really fascinating if you haven't done it. The feeling can't be explained, but when I'm OBEing and finding myself seeing myself it feels really peaceful. And "the real world" feels more real then real life.
#7
Well, think of it. A dream about someone blowing up a plane/boat/train/bus/whatever or something going bad amongst a crowd is not that uncommon to dream of I think. And if 6 billion-ish people dream every night, it's not surprising that some of them will dream a dream very close to such an occurence. You could possibly just have dreamt such a dream that exact night. Anyway, let's say you were indeed not dreaming that by coincidence. Why should you be alerted of that specific thing happening, and not something more close to "your environments"?

I've experienced something similar. When I was about 13 years old, we were going to a vaction in another country. The day before we traveled, I had a dream where I saw a fire alarm going off. When I woke up, later that day I asked my mother "when are we going to buy a burglary alarm?" because I got reminded of it from my dream. Guess what happened when we came home. :) Yes, someone had broke in and ruined a lot of value things in our house, nothing stolen, but a lot of damage for high amounts. The police never figured out who did it.
It might have been random, for some reason it just seems too valid not to be. But, I still think there's a very slight chance it could have been random, the subconciousness does indeed have a lot of excessive random things being "sorted", we dream tons of dreams every night over a long time. Sometimes something just has to match between something happening randomly in the dream world and in real life.

Not a sceptic, just trying to find logical explanations.
#8
I don't see a point binding myself or others to a religion. Even if there is a God, why would I need to praise and be thankful? Meh, if there was a God, why would he want us to praise him and recruit other people to belive and praise him - if he isn't doing anything actively to spread the word himself? If there is a "God" I think he wants us to live life as awesome as you can make it and not dedicate your life to making others believe in him. Sorry for OT or if it's against your beliefs, just had to get it out.

I'm starting to think there's something going on and there might be "something" powerful beyond our awareness, but honestly, I'm never gonna push a religion or any other beliefs on my kids - that's up to them to figure, conclude and experience. I will probably teach them about lucid dreaming, especially if they are interested, and I will likely tell them about my OBEs at a certain point. If they are interested I'll of course tell them more and discuss opinions and experiences and such. I'm just going to be very careful to what I "program" into their subconsciousness at a young age which parents tend to do, unconsciously aware of theirselves doing it. Both religion and whatever.

I want my kids to make their own interpretions of things viewed from multiple angles and try to find a rational reason behind things if they can.
#9
Just a little note here which might work, don't know if it works for anyone else (I'm a natural projecter and never read on techniques (until now)), but what oftens decide if I AP or not after an SP is not only laying physically still - but also clearing my mind completely. One time I specifically remember, I had an SP and was thinking to myself "don't think anything now" - and because I was starting thinking a sentence in my mind, it felt like the transition started to slip or get interrupted, so I stopped thinking like it was instinct before I was done with the sentence (hadn't thinked the whole sentence yet) - and I then projected. And that's what I always do now. Anyone ever noticed the same btw? Sorry if this is completely basic stuff :p
#10
High.

First of all, sorry for not bothering reading all of the replies in the thread.

Honestly, I don't think that it was your astral body/whatever trying to pull you to the end of bed at all, but a part of your sleep paralysis (projecting usually happens right after the whole SP scenario is over) . The brain doesn't understand why you are paralyzed, which results in subconcious (or concious) fear -> brain is trying to compensate by ADDING feelings of someone "evil" doing something bad to you, hence why you felt being dragged or sat on. It's common to feel being dragged/turned/whatever during SP, involving tactical (? - not sure of the right english word)/touching/pulling/being sat on and such.

For me to be able to project from a SP, I need to completely clear my mind and keep it clear during the SP. Even thinking a simple thought can ruin it for me, so if you are thinking a lot I'm quite sure you're not going to project just like that (esp. if you haven't projected a lot).

Because the hallucinations and such during SP are so intense and feel real, I used to get this uneasy feeling even by just thinking about it. In the beginning, I would always fear something happening which then resulted in exactly what I feared, even though I knew it was not dangerous, it just made an impression on me mentally and I feared seeing such bonked up things. Heck, I've noticed sometimes when I've woken up not even having a sleep paralysis that my body unintended by me is getting a "shock" in case I wake up with a SP.
Now I'm able to skip this feeling and all forms of hallucinations and go straight to projecting from SP. Before you even try to project from SPs, I think you have to overcome your SP-issues. Just wait a while and get prepared for it mentally, then face your fear. Feel completely relaxed about it and rest assured that it's completely normal and you understand what happens.

Btw, I usually keep my eyes closed when I know I have a SP. Did you open your eyes? In case, where were your PoV from? How can you see your body if it feels like you are being pulled out? Also, in my experience and after what I've read, if your body is afraid of leaving it will do everything it can to snap back - so I honestly don't believe it's trying to drag itself out, rather that the SP is causing it. Happened to me many times before.