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#1
QuoteYou mentioned that the current "Possessing spirit" called to her, and she simply went. There is a problem in this, how did it call her? Did she simply go to it, willingly, with no caution, accept it into herself? Is she being responsible with her projections?

This might sound crazy, but this spirit began to "post" on her website, calling her by a different name saying "come here, I need you". It did this while I was there in the chatroom and my wife said "okay i'll be there". I don't even know how it is possible for a spirit from another plane to post on a website, or why it would even bother, but this has happened with a lot of the spirits my wife says she meets. She says they AP into people here to talk to her.  She claims to trust or even sometimes "love" these spirits. She cares for them, sometimes, I feel she does so even more than she cares for me.

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What is she doing along the other planes? Is she simply exploring, or is there something she is seeking, something she is practicing?

This is something that has bothered me for a very long time. She tells me she goes to explore, and that is the only reason. But she has countless times told me she has met spirits she "loves" and goes to them simply for this reason. She has even, during certain events, claimed that she wants to "be" with some of the hateful spirits that have hurt both myself and her. But she then changes back and claims it isn't true. It is so confusing. Especially as I am NOT an astral projector.

QuoteDo you separate yourself from your identity and try to connect with the divine (In your case, God)? Or do you retain your self, and send the prayer from your own identity? What has the response been? The feelings while you pray? 

When I ask the Elohim for guidance, I do it as myself. I have even pleaded with them when previous prayers have had no responce. In most cases, praying has NOT helped. The feelings I feel are a mixture of fear, love for my wife, and stress. Though I have tried so hard to feel less scared, I find it extremely difficult. She has been talking to this spirit I mentioned 2 posts ago since the event.

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I will attempt to help you better understand spiritual energies and how to work with them, to help your wife, but I would prefer to do it over private messages rather than on the open forums. If this is what you want, then please send me a message.
Thank you so much, I will PM you.

QuoteWell,there is Tom Campbell with his large experience in this stuff,maybe you can contact him on his-My big toe forum,for advice,just a thought.

Can you PM me a link please? Thank you.
#2
QuoteWhy does your wife refuse help? With both her becoming sick, and you becoming sick, why does she deny that something is wrong?
This is something that I do not understand. I have asked her countless times, and she always replies with simply "I'm not giving up AP for anyone. I have a life there too". I once suggested maybe it's AP that is making her sick and she accused me of just saying it because I didn't want her to do it anymore.

QuoteWhat kind of "spiritual" help did you seek?
After doctors failed to help her, I first went to a priest. Scarily, he was not extremely helpful. I asked what I should do after explaining everything to him. His advice was simply to stay away from her until she helps herself, saying that "if she loves you, she will stop going to these spirit worlds and heal herself". This made me very sad, I expected more. So I went to a white witch who believed my wife to be suffering from multiple personality disorder, not a spirtual problem at all. However, my wife refuses mental help and got hurt when I mentioned it once. She basically thought I was calling her mad. She even stopped talking to me for a few days under the belief that I insulted her, when I did not. I just wanted to help her.

QuoteWould you be willing to learn how to sense and use spiritual energy? About what you said earlier; the various planes of what is, are not separated. They are intertwined. We are not apart from them in any way.
Yes... I would do absolutely anything to help my wife. I love her more than anything, and will do whatever it takes to get these horrible entites away from her forever. But I do not know where to begin.

QuoteHow do you ask for help from whichever entities/guardians you prefer? How do you pray for help?
I have prayed for help in many different ways. I have prayed on knees, sitting down, standing up, all with hands together. I have even had a priest pray for her with me, several times, and had her name placed in the service with the other prayers. Other times I have tried praying cross legged and hands together. I have prayed to God, Michael, Germaine and countless others.

QuoteAlso, how are you getting sick?
Recently whenever my wife gets sick I get sick also, having almost exactly the same symptoms which include fainting, stomach back and head pains, throwing up and also extremely bad luck such as injuring myself the same times she does. I have been unable to move for two days due to all my joints locking and this only happens during an episode. When she is AP'ing and the sickest I got was when this "thing" said it raped her. I have been suffering extreme dizzyness and hot and cold ffluhes also.

I pray someone can help us. At least help my wife... she is more important to me than anything.
#3
I know I am very late with this reply. But things have gotten very bad. My wife, shortly after I asked for help from a doctors, priests and spiritualists, recovered a little. The spirit that called itself Legion seemed to have left. At least for a very long time. About 2 weeks ago however, things got extremely bad and even right now my wife is extremely sick. She has fainted over 20 times in the past week, twitching, and claiming to be someone else. I got particularly worried last night, when she was twitching a lot screaming things such as "please stop, it hurts! make it stop". She was practically begging me to AP to where she is to help her. But I didn't know how. In between her pleads she was making sounds that I immediately thought were "orgasmic". When she regained consciousness, I asked her what happened and she said she didn't know. But she said she was in agony and even after waking up today, was still sore. It was early this morning when she blacked out again and reminicent of last time, spoke to me as someone else. I asked who it was, and it said it's name was Al - haz - ad. (i do not want to type its name properly). I asked it what happened and it said it raped my wife. It also threatened me. I am very afraid, and again, I have asked my wife to leave AP behind her but she insists on going back there. When I asked her who this spirit was she claimed it asked her to go to it. And she refuses to stop going there. Her sickenss has gotten very bad and now I have started getting extremely sick too. Please someone help me. This is so far out of my understanding. What should I do?
#4
Quote from: Naykid on September 16, 2010, 07:37:47
I don't think you are going to like the answers you are going to get, at least from me.  I just want to know before going forward with my thoughts, what kind of sickness?  You did not elaborate.  I'd like to know more about that first.

Thanks.  :-)

Her sickness consists of constant fainting, all her joints locking and hurting, and stomach, head and back pains. She also has her mucles spasm, and she cannot control them. Doctors have tried everything to help her and have had no luck diagnosing her with anything.

Quote from: personalreality on September 16, 2010, 13:28:56
You have to consider the reality that you all inhabit. 

Assuming your wife is christian now or at least grew up in a society that is based on christianity (which she probably did if you're from US, Canada, Europe, etc. etc.) then she probably has a worldview built on the idea of good vs. evil.  In this reality there are most definitely good entities like angels and the like and there are evil entities like demons and such.  If you add to that a very suppressed shadow self (the unconscious parts of her mind that her ego wants to deny exists, full of our weaknesses, fears, etc.) then it's not too difficult to take that next step into demons, possessions and poltergeists.  The bottom line is that as long as you and she believe that these things are not only possible but very very real then there isn't much that can be done about it.  The only real thing she can do at this point would be to call upon a helper.  The most common helper in this kind of worldview would be Archangel Michael.  She could call upon Michael to 'vanquish' the presence within her or any other helper that she feels connected to.

I'm basically saying that this is all made up in her mind due to years of psychological conditioning (which we are all subject to in one way or another, but for some people who are especially good at repressing their feelings this can be a very intense experience) and the only way to "combat" it is either to deprogram some of her beliefs (which would most likely involve giving up religion in the common sense) or use her beliefs to resolve the problem (by calling upon the 'good guys').

She is Christian, very Christian. She once was a Sunday school teacher. She had to stop work when she got sick, and now she is on a disability benefit. I have suggested she asks God or the Archangel for help. I just hope that it helps her.

Quote from: horaciocs on September 16, 2010, 19:55:13
Does your wife take any medication? Has she got any health issues? Has she, or any member of her family ever experienced anything like this before? How is your wife behaving on her day-to-day life now? Is she "normal"? Or is there some constant change on her behavior?

If all of this is not caused by some physical issue, then please read on.


Allright, this goes a bit beyond what we usually discuss here on the forums, so I won't try to make a lot of sense, I'll just speak from my personal beliefs, despite this forum's usually more "methodic" approach.

When you work with your spiritual body, energies and all that fancy stuff your wife probably talked/talks to you about, you make yourself much more open to external sources of energy (read natural energies, unrelated to any living entity, and entities themselves). That is because the person who does that kind of work "shines" and works as some sort of beacon to lower entities attached to the physical. Their energy centers are more active than other people's and that opens up their bodies to external influences.

That being said, imagine you're one of those lower entities attached to the physical (trapped would be a more precise word). You need some source of energy to keep yourself running, so a way to keep active would be to suck energy from physical beings. Usually, these lower entities are also full of hate and despise for other lifeforms (this relates to, for instance, people that find it pleasing to watch movies such as Jigsaw and other cruelty-filled ones. That's how these entities' influences work and that's why they have the attitude you've seen towards your wife). They make a living out of taking the living from others. That makes them satisfied and keeps them attached to that person.

The more effective way to get rid of that is to call out for help. Not from churches, necessarily. You can ask for assistance from helping entities; positive, ethical ones. Like someone else said and you yourself referred to, calling out for Archangel Michael is of great help, for he is one of the strongest protecting entities there are. You can also call out for entities that work with the purple light/energy. That is, mainly, Saint Germain. Call out for these two, ask them for help. If you feel more confortable, ask your guardian angel to bring these entities to help your wife.




You should do that in the form of sessions. Purple is the energy of purifucation, cleansing. It takes away all negative energies. When you begin your session, ask saint germain for help and imagine your wife immersed in purple light, as if she were inside a purple bonfire. See that as a cleaning session, one that takes away all bad energies and entities. Try to be confortable with the idea of those helping entities being around to help your wife (I don't know how that fits your beliefs, but that's what's going on).

When you feel it's enough, thank the entites for the assistance and now ask for archangel michael to protect your wife by surrounding her in blue light. Blue is the energy of protection, it creates a barrier to negative energies. (purple/st germain cleans; blue/arch michael protects). Again, when you feel you've had enough, thank the entities for the help. Now the session is done.




You should be aware that the two of you are receiving that assistance, not only your wife. That helps both of you.

I hope this gives you some directions to the right path to getting your wife healed. Please keep us informed.

I think I understand what you are saying. I will suggest her to call for help using your advice. But I fear that maybe she doesn't want help, because she doesn't want to believe that anything is wrong, even though she most likely knows it is. Could this energy that is tormenting her be Legion? Or just a hateful spirit? Can just bring positive energy around get rid of it permanently? I fear she will be hurt, or worse. She will not give up AP no matter how much I tell her to.
#5
Please, I hope somebody can help me.

My wife is an astral projector. She is constantly AP'd into other planes, both of Focus 2 and Focus 3 levels. Since she has been doing this she has become extremely sick, and doctors don't have any idea what is wrong with her. They have done every test imaginable to diagnose her but nothing.

I will be honest, I have always objected to her AP'ing. I am Christian, and I believe that other dimensions and realities are seperated from our own for good reason. However, I never used to interfere with her affairs until the other night when I got very disturbed by how she was acting.

I was speaking to her normally then she started hearing things that I was saying that I wasn't really saying. She began conversing with me, even though I wasn't talking. She couldn't seem to hear me telling her it isn't me speaking. Then she blacked out.

Her voice became a whisper, and deep. But it wasn't speaking to me. It was saying her name several times, breathing heavy then stopping. Then she would regain consciousness and think i said something bad to her when I did not. Then it would happen again.

My first thought, was Schitsophrenia. But that was until she went into another trance and told me "your lover will never be well again, she belongs to me" i became more concerned. I figured it was a spirit from another plane, so I spoke to it and asked it who it was and it said "Legion". I recognised that immediatelly as the spirit that Jesus Exorcised from Michael in the Bible. After it told me that I was terrified, and have been looking for help ever since. Nobody will help her, and she refuses to go to a psychiatrist. No church will do anything like Exorcisms because its not proven she isn't insane yet.

I only know about AP from what my wife tells me. So I knwo little. But you people are the experts. Can her AP'ing have allowed this demon through? Could this be the reason she is sick?? Can someone please help me?