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I can't convince you to quit smoking weed, but I can tell you that if you do, your quality of life will increase dramatically and within a week or two you will start to notice that you can think more clearly and solve harder problems. I know that won't help though, because it's the same thing my friend told to me while I had a bowl in my hand and I thought, "Why the hell would I not want to be stoned? I think so much more clearly, I guess I'm just different." Hindsight is 20/20 and that was a very stupid time in my life.

I smoke marijuana for medical reasons now like migraines or insomnia.  I get headaches so bad that nothing else works and the prescription medication the doctor gave me has side effects like sudden blindness, seizures, and death.  It's fun but I rarely do it more than twice a week now.  When I was a teenager I did it much more frequently and was into many different drugs as well as being a heavy drinker for over a decade.

I am much more interested in how drugs can interfere with the adventures in the non physical.  To me, its a big argument against astral projection being something independent of our bodies if a drug that impairs the brain also interferes with the actual experience (not the ability to do it).  It seems that science could use that as evidence portraying astral projection as dreams for exactly this reason.

Marijuana is a hallucinogenic drug and can make you see/hear things that aren't there if you get enough THC in your system.  I've projected before and I smoke weed.  I have had interesting results but they are experiences on their own merit.  I have no idea if they are "real" or "non physical" or just plain old hallucinations.  Its easy to get high, lay down, close my eyes, and the next thing I know I'm using the darkness as my own personal canvas to see all kinds of wonderful things moving around.  It happens much faster and vividly than when I'm completely sober but it doesn't feel the same as projections.  I would imagine you can experience all kinds of things with the drug but I have no idea how "real" or useful they are.

Here is the other thing I always wondered.  How can alcohol or marijuana impact your projection memory?  I thought when I was in the non physical that memories were retained or formed independent of your brain, more or less.  I can see how it would make it hard to project or dream but if you managed to, how would it negatively impact your experience or memory thereof if the substance is affecting your physical brain?  I don't recall every encountering a lot of information about this topic.

What a shame Frank is gone.  I just finished reading that giant compendium of posts and would love to see how he continued making progress through focus 4.  Something about his posts just came off as genuine and I think there is truth in a lot of what he said.  It's also interesting to see how his own thinking evolved from the begining to the end.  How sad he never got to finish his book and teach more people how to phase.

I can enter sleep paralysis every single night if I want to.  When it happens and I break out of it, if I attempt to go back to sleep anytime soon, it happens repeatedly.  I wake up every night at like 2am to pee and when I return to sleep all I have to do is lay down on my back and attempt to phase.  What happens is I literally watch my body fall asleep while my mind stays awake.  Unfortunately, every time I have it happen I freak out and never roll out of my body.   

Thanks for the encouragement.  

With the last week or so I have managed to hit sleep paralysis a few different times by using ear plugs around 2 am or so.  I just lay down on my back and stare into blackness, then I hear a ringing in my ears that increases in intensity.  The next thing I know I can look all around but can't physically move anything.  Would this project me into the RTZ or should I try to increase or wait for vibrations?  The main problem I am dealing with at this point is fear.  I have yet to overcome my personal fears during the paralysis stage and am unsure of what to do other than keep trying.  Practice makes perfect?

Christianity and religion in general is mostly harmful.  I spent roughly 15 years in church, forced by my parents, including a few years in a Lutheran school.  I am still attempting to reverse the harm that was almost permanently ingrained into my core. 

Over the years I came to my senses through tons of research on my own and came to the conclusion that all religions are made up belief systems, by humans, to explain things they can't understand.  Simply by examining the bible itself, you will see that it is clearly fables written a few thousand years ago by sheepherders.  Simple minded men who put into this book things like specific instructions for beating slaves, the stoning of a man who was gathering firewood on a sunday, a man sacrificing his own daughter to gain favor with god, the command to kill children who curse their parents, and the murder of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of innocent people.  None of this sounds like a book written by "god".  Why would god condone the beating of slaves?  The murder of children who curse at their parents?  Are you serious? 

Just that little tidbit should settle it for you but there's tons and tons more.  You can also find literally hundreds of contradictions in the bible that make absolutely zero sense.  You can google these if you ever get bored and need any more persuasion.

Hardcore fundamentalist christians will tell you to avoid astral projection because it's "of the devil".  You should probably avoid religious people because most of them are self fulfilling prophecies and full of debbie downer information that is a complete stab in the dark at the unknown.  Astral projection can give you first hand personal verification of things that no other person on this planet can help you figure out.  There is no book or person that has all the answers and anyone claiming that should be the biggest red flag you can possibly get.

So I've been trying phasing as well as the more traditional OBE methods for the last six months or so.  I have hit the vibrational phase several times whilst attempting the traditional style but have yet to actually feel like I pop into the RTZ.  Normally I just get freaked out and/or fall asleep.

The phasing stuff I feel I am having a tad more success with.  I have listened to the focus 10 intro exercise roughly 100 times now.  I continue to use it a few times a week, when I have time, considering I have a newborn baby I am currently dealing with.  In spite of that, I managed to phase a few times but they were always late at night when my mind/body were already out of it. 

The first time it happened was directly after listening to the intro to focus 10 wave 1 cd around 3am.  After that I turned to my side and got sleepy.  Before falling asleep I saw a wolf's face start drawing in 3d color right infront of my face.  I sat there watching it for a few seconds but when I concentrated on it, it disappeared and I woke up. 

My other experience was that I went up to the couch from the bedroom around 2am and started to fall asleep.  I concentrated on walking through a park or something and then all of a sudden a real cool gun started forming infront of my face with an old clock behind it.  Then next thing I know I literally popped out into some type of dirty & dark sewer.  I freaked out and immediately the scenary went hazy and then dreamlike.  Then I woke up.

I will continue to attempt both methods of projecting as I personally believe that any experience is good experience.  Any progress will aid me in future attempts and help in the overall bigger picture with me getting comfortable and learning the environments.

Ok, so yesterday I had some more progress.  All I've been doing so far is listening to the Gaveway Wave I cd track 2.  Outside of that, I don't do any other attempts or practices for projection.  I don't even attempt it, yet, without listening to the cd however, I think I have it memorized enough now where I can probably bring myself to focus 10 without using it.  Best guess is I've probably listened to the cd now 25 times.

So I was at the point of focus 10 and I was having the flashing lights again.  I did my best to ignore them and I began feeling like I was floating.  What this did was cause some tension in my neck, chest, and what felt like increased heart beat with faster breathing.  I also began seeing a very bright white light getting brighter before I ended the exercise.  

I'm guessing I need to continue focusing on remaining calm and relaxed during the end stages in order to get an exit?  Perhaps act less interested and just observe.  I'd also guess I'm getting pretty close.  My question is, at that point during the exercise, what am I supposed to be focused on or thinking about?  When I reached that stage, I was imagining myself laying on my couch petting my cat.  I also was trying to put out some vibe that I was ready to meet a guide.  Any other tips for this stage?  Should I be making some attempts now without the CD?

I was just recently married this summer.

For a long time I was opposed to marriage, settling down, having kids, and viewed the opposite sex as a dumb waste of time.  At some point recently all of this changed.  I think its when I saw my sister's kids and how cute they were.

I met a girl five years younger than me.  She's hot, has a good job, has a house and her own car.  She's independent, smart, and everything I would want in a partner.  Basically the female version of myself.  She compliments me nicely.  Soon after meeting she got pregnant and we got married.  We've been together now about ten months and I have a son on the way this January.

Marriage has several benefits that are monetary in nature.  Tax breaks, cheaper auto insurance, cheaper medical insurance, combined assets, easier to live as two than one once bills are paid, combined retirements, etc...

Marriage also has a lot of benefits that go beyond money.  Things like having someone to take care of you when you're sick.  The comfort of having a friend right next to you 24/7.  Someone to talk about problems with.  Someone to help you through rough patches like when a family member dies.  Someone to laugh with.  Someone to share responsibilities with like paying bills, cleaning, raising a child, etc...and when I say paying bills I don't mean the monetary side of it.   I mean the waste of time it is trying to manage and pay a dozen random bills per month all on different days.  It's nice having her do a lot of that, so that I can waste my time doing something more frivolous like playing tetris.

Overall, I think people should have the option to do whatever they want with their lives, weather that be marriage or single or whatever.  As long as it doesn't hurt anybody, I see no problems with it.

[Provided you have no pain associated with it]

The strobing lights are normal.  Provided you have no pain associated with it.  So don't worry about it.  It's not bad, it's supposed to be a sign of development (of the brow center).  So like Xanth said, ignore it.

No real pain but a slight discomfort and the feeling like my eyes are flickering with the strobe light.  I think it's mostly because I attempt to lock my eyes in an upward position.  I'll have to spend more time really practicing just keeping them relaxed and out of focus.  I can see how this takes a considerable time investment.

Subject says most of it.  I've been using Monroe's Gateway Wave I cd track 2 and been getting to the point several times where I start disassociating with my body.  The blackness turns 3D and I'll have problems from keeping my eyes jumping all over attempting to see whatever it is thats forming. 

The other problem I've been having and this one's a whopper is that I feel I'm getting close but all of a sudden I'll see strobe lights.  What I mean by that is very bright flashing white light, almost like a camera flash in my eyes repeatedly which totally messes the entire process up.  I'm not sure if this is some type of disorder or pretty common for everyone. 

Any ideas, help, or tips to get me through this?

I suppose its hard to determine if you're out of body anyhow.  I'll just keep making my attempts off of my back and if it wakes me up then I'll try from a different position.  Thanks.

I have a question concerning this topic while we're on it.  When attempting phasing, or any other OBE method for that matter, does the physical body fall asleep at some point after we exit our body?  I have read tons of books and looked online and haven't seen this issue addressed anywhere.  The reason this is a concern for me is that I will start snoring if I fall asleep on my back and it will wake me up.  I want to know if I should be practicing these techniques in another position or not.  Thanks.

Hello. 

So I read a book on astral projection by William Bulhman and found it very interesting and informative.  I tried a few of his different techniques for the last month but haven't had much success.  I got to the vibrational stage once then fell asleep.  I also found myself in a lucid dream, came to realize it, and started taking control of it only to wake up. 

So outside of taking months or years to experiment and try out every possible type of method available, is there anything that tends to work better for starters than others?  The only technique that almost worked is the one where you memorize an object(s) for twenty minutes per day, usually before bed, then focus on them while nodding off to sleep.  This had me wake up in the vibrational state once but I couldn't get out of my body. 

I've also read stuff on the phasing technique and that sounds interesting as well.  I also practice with meditation and am curious if this would somehow be helpful in ways I haven't experimented with yet?  Should I just stick with my technique that almost worked and keep at it for as long as it takes?  Any advice for me?  Thanks.