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I know what its like to dream up what i want to happen ....

I know your topic is different, but I'd love to hear more about this.

I think you already took a good first step, asking who it was. Maybe you can open your eyes next? Ask what does it want from you? Could be normal that this occurred while you were in bed, before you started your adventures. If fear arises for me, it's usually just in that beginning.

I used to think you had to do something for the awakening, but more and more from reading seems like it happens all on its own. i have some envy in me

Welcome!! I guess it depends what you want to go there for. I am looking for something very important to me.. I would be willing to die trying   

Try when you're sleepy or when you've just woken up from sleep 

I have had one experience where there are thunder-like sounds surrounding me, coming from above.. I can't see anything. At this point I had read it's the moment vibrations enter the body. Nothing entered me but I felt my forehead get warm and then when that was over, what was surrounding me flew away. I saw bright blue circles with dark blue circles.. on my eyelids, undulating. I did a search online the next morning and kind of by accident I saw a diagram that the third eye chakra which is by the forehead, is coloured indigo...

Stuck in your house.. For a while, I was stuck in just my room lol. I haven't even walked out through the whole house. I would try to leave and there are chairs blocking the door.

Sometimes in an OBE all that exists is my room... No doors, no junk either. Just my bed, and there is a window. I put my hands on it and keep pushing with the intention my hands will go through. Doors are a little mysterious, but windows you already know what's on the other side : )

krobin, did it sound like this? At 1:51 (pre OBE rushing noises) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zeoLMO37i0

If you look up Thomas Campbell, he mentions being able to affect the physical environment while in a light body, as well as thoughts of those living there. And with training you can also form a physical body. No technology used,  just the power of the mind -but he doesn't give away any specific technique in his books.

Probably because I have never seen anything like a ghost or something unusual in the physical, a lot of people say they've seen ghosts, or other weird stuff, and i'm always "what about me, I want to see a ghost" lol.

I need to get back to phasing, i'm getting too involved with the physical. 

I know the feeling  I see that video of the UFO in Israel and I think "I want to meet them!" Have you seen it.. It actually could be true because there are multiple videos of the same thing and time in different parts of Israel.

Haha, great. I'm jealous too! Is he psychic by any chance? All the ones I know who are like that can also dream as they have their eyes open, going about their daily lives..

I tried the one track with 3 built in two to three times now, one per day.. Earth, third eye, and heart. I go in and out of dream states.. I can't hold the state   Fortunately I don't fall asleep. I'll try the Pineal Dimensional Attunement separately tomorrow!

I wonder when we move into the 4th
I heard there are children these days who can access that
Seems it's best to move into one of these areas. Maybe my hometown's not on the "grid"

You want this to be true? lol why

c0sm0nautt, it's Frank Kepple's


Monroe and his team discovered some interesting things on their travels, that one person's body was not able to handle the different states or levels or frequencies.. these 'locations' and had to go through a lot of training. They mentioned problems with metabolism.
I think there was a thread on this forum some time ago about energy work strengthening one so that they could leave the body. Some people didn't agree, but maybe certain people do need it.

Yes I know, but Simo might not know how to do it in the beginning.

In my case they are maybe fears manifesting. In the beginnings I would get scared just prior to leaving my body and once I was out I was very happy and ready to fool around. Sometimes I heard a voice next to me in that short moment, trying to scare me. It's very faint though.
Also when I meditate, I sometimes hear someone jump out and go "Aah!" as if to scare someone. Here the voice was always outside my bedroom, a little ways away.

I would be interested in doing this. It's great to hear all the different ways of getting into trance.

I've read about fasting but my living situation is not permitting me to do so freely at the moment...

Interesting  I find even going up to 400 is too high for me. It's like a mosquito in my ear.. I can't relax. I like the mellowness of 100, it makes me drowsy quickly

Should add that I've tried Monroe's tapes before and some are high, but you can't hear them unless you turn the volume up. It still does its job even when you can't hear anything. I heard they do tests on the carrier frequency, seems it has an effect on results

I've had these same thoughts lol.  So far for me, the time of day in real life is the same in the OBE. But once I leave my house, the time changes.. usually day-time.

My very first night OBE was just before sunset and I left my body after it got dark. I couldn't see, and I also couldn't switch the lights on XD. So if I do this at night nowadays I leave a light on just in case. But hey you might be curious what it's like... I've had experiences where I start off blind and I just wait till my eyesight kicks in. I've also tried visualizing an environment while blind and what I thought up appeared around me.

Thomas Campbell who's worked with Monroe suggested 3.87 hz in a radio talk show I listened to last year. Carrier frequency for males 100, 104. He says higher frequency seems to be more favoured by female, 5000 (seems really high to me.. but it's what I wrote in my notes)

I've read that dream characters don't seem they are really there. You can't have a decent conversation with them. Will be something I try next OBE

Under_the_Midnight_Sun, my friend has had a similar experience. His was a figure made of light. Describes it as not really having its own personality..

I met a guy online some time ago. In his case, it seemed that it formed into a light being.. He told me it tells him it will change its appearance to whatever he feels comfortable with. It also gives him information he wants (and he talks about the shift on the earth a lot..). My impression is this is like the Akashic Record (rather than an actual separate, sentient being..), and what I also read from other people. It gives a feeling of something encompassing something way larger than an individual person. He says it's god-like, with no personality. Sometimes it is a person and it can also be visualized as a TV screen or a pool of water. Whichever way you can use this the best for you.

Interesting responses.. I could also throw out another thing often mentioned -that there are no 'places' really, it is just focuses of consciousness. And they are existing simultaneously. You may be in the physical but there can come about a "F3" overlay like when someone is visited by the deceased. I've had the experience of this but instead with a F2 overlay (when waking up from a dream before it ended).
Thomas Campbell from MyBigToe says what matters is intention, and the new agers would add in vibration or energy. I haven't noticed anything yet for me, just by changing simple intention but I do make other wishes to do with OBE and they come true. (However making wishes in getting something from the material world is another story *sad*)

Thus far I'm not sure where I'm going in OBE. The astral is also known as the emotional plane and for most of my experiences I find it's all about feeling. That everything as appearance is new and different but the feeling is familiar, i know what this 'image' means or represents.
Once when I finally figured out how to leave my bedroom I walked in my backyard and I just knew it was my aunt's farm. I used to live there when I was little and I have a lot of good memories about it. The spaciousness and also it had the same specific smell. Even the type of sunlight, time of day made me nostalgic. Actually, it didn't make me nostalgic, it was more like I was reliving those memories /feelings.

For those who have been there...
I did some reading and it says it doesn't always look exactly  like the physical world. There can be that furniture in your home is arranged differently or you are in a completely different home altogether. These were labeled as reality fluctuations. Is that true? I was thinking, how can you do a test when the images don't match? (For example, you see the mailman put a yellow package into your mailbox.. If you wake up and run to the mailbox, you should find that yellow package there too. But if the images don't match...)

Also: if your emotions manifest (they exist as forms outside of you), then that must mean you are in the astral?

Well, I did just what I said in the original post on Friday morning during a projection and it worked great.
It was, what seemed like an RTZ projection into my bedroom... I walked out into the hallway towards the bathroom and a long story short, I began to wake up so I focused intently upon a piece of paper or leather or whatever it was that I was holding.  I looked at it, felt it, studied it... and it kept me from waking up for a good minute or two.  

So it definitely works for me.

Yea it's funny.. I used to do that in the beginning when I was successful at inducing OBE. I used to do it the first thing I got out, because I often didn't have good eyesight and I read focusing on objects is also a way to strengthen your astral senses.

Perhaps this is a very personal challenge for me. Maybe to do with beliefs, who knows. I also have the problem that I can't sense when I am starting to fade. It feels like only a split second..


(I saw your post on the RTZ and in your journal, I will try those out  Thanks a lot for all the info you post)

Hey there, wait a sec..   The RTZ or physical world is much bigger than what we take it for. There is that whole etheric section we can't see with our eyes. Apparently you can do that via astral body. I hope you try to stay with what you get for a while, and really wander around more. Perhaps you'll find some odd portal or funny family of little entities/aliens..   My friend told me he met a light being.