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#1
I decided to email Mr. Ledwith about this and he responded! It makes more sense now. It's not about good or bad, it's about cause and effect. Gah I'm loving quantum physics more and more each day. Here is what he had to say:

"I said in What the Bleep basically that good and bad are too low a standard by which to assess ones actions.  Some professionals for example  make a living finding ways to avoid all the rules of good and bad.

The real law in the universe, if we can speak in such lofty terms, is the law of cause and effect.  The structure of reality is such that what I put out, either to myself or others, is going to come back to me, usually multiplied.  It is inexorable. That is just the way things are, just as the law of gravity is.

I am not saying there are not things that we can put under the label 'good' or "bad" obviously.  I am saying that in the long term what matters and what is the real reason for concern is to figure out what caused the so called good or bad, and what will be their result if we only understand them as good or bad.  There is no way to escape the law of cause and effect.

This is a much better context in which to understand how we live our lives and what we may expect as a consequence, either while still alive or afterwards. That is where the inexorable law of cause and effect comes in with a vengeance.  Much more concerning for us than broken down and obsolete ideas that try to understand reward or punishment after death.

Sincerely yours,

Miceal "
#2
I forgot to mention Karma. How can Karma exist if there is no good or bad as well? A serial killer may feel good when he kills his victims. To us, we see this as an awfully bad thing. To him, he may feel good and he gets positive energy from it.  But if there is no good or bad, and only experiences, then Karma wouldn't exist would it?
#3
Quote from: Xanth on September 21, 2012, 08:51:40

It's only one or the other because, as a human, we have a tendency to label and categorize everything we encounter... beyond that good and bad are only opinions. 

Good post.  :)

Right, but you are forgetting the properties of energy. Physical or non-physical there is positive and negative. Like for example, when people talk about "negative entities" in the astral plane, they speak of them as being bad, because they don't do nice things sometimes. So, them not doing nice things (or bad) makes them vibrate at a lower frequency (negative). So again, if there is no "good" or "bad" what makes a being vibrate at a positive or negative frequency? Or rather, what is the cause of the frequency they are vibrating?
#4
Hello Friends, I have another discussion for you today.
I got around to finally seeing the documentary "what the bleep do we know", and I liked it for the most part. There was a person who said something that made me think about good/bad, right/wrong, etc.. I looked up his quote on google:

"If I do this, I'm going to get punished by God. If I do the other thing, I'm going to get rewarded. This is a really poor description that tries to carve out a path in life for us to follow. But with deplorable results. Because there is really no such thing as good or bad. We're judging things far too superficially that way. Does that mean you're in favor of sin and licentiousness an depravity? No. It simply means that you need to improve your expression and understanding of what you're dealing with here.

There are things that I do, and I know they'll evolve me. There are other things that will not evolve me. But it's not good or bad. There's no God waiting to punish you because you did one or the other."
-Dr. Miceal Ledwith


So, if he is saying there is no good or bad, then what are positive vibrations (energy) and negative vibrations (energy)? I for one associate positive energy with "good" and negative energy with "bad". For example, if someone is being extremely rude to someone else, they are usually emitting negative energy towards that person. I perceive that action as a bad thing. But what makes it bad? Well, it all has to do with how you feel. I know that when I am emitting positive energy I feel good, if i'm emitting negative energy, I feel bad. I don't understand how there couldn't be good or bad when there is positive and negative. Aren't they really the same thing or no?

Anyone like to share their thoughts?
#5
Well, as I said this was before I really started researching and delving into my spiritual path, so at the time I didn't really think anything of it except of how strange it was. Now that I've studied metaphysics, the ego, etc..I realize how powerful our energy really is. I don't know how we are able to manipulate energies and frequencies with our emotions and thoughts, but I know that it happens because of personal experiences. I am much more down to earth and calm now. I was a completely different person before I had a spiritual epiphany two years ago. I mean, I was really asleep. I obsessed over what people thought of me and also judged them, material things, and always letting my ego influence my emotions. Now, I am totally compassionate and hippie-like lol. It's amazing how spirituality can completely change someone. For me, it really has made a positive difference.  :-D
#6
Quote from: Lionheart on September 18, 2012, 03:06:26
Sounds like a case of perfect timing. It's good to see that it calmed you down! I don't believe in coincidences, so this temporary black out most likely effected everyone in your apartment in different ways, for different purposes!  :-)

Oh no it only happened in my apartment! I spoke to the lady that lives above me the next morning and she said her power didn't go out, then I asked the people across from me and they also said their power was fine too. Each apartment has its own breaker box though, but I felt like something was up. Kind of freaked me out to be honest lol
#7
Hi all! So I thought I would share something that personally happened to me a few months ago. I was in my apartment, severely upset and depressed over a heartbreak. This was before I started to really delve into my spiritual awakening, and I was letting my ego get in the way big time. I was crying, yelling, blaming God and my spirit guides; I was even literally kicking laying in my bed. I was so negative that whilst in the middle of my tantrum, the power in my apartment went out for about 30 seconds. I don't know if my own energy caused manipulation to the electricity in my apartment, or if it was a way that someone was telling me to basically "calm down". Either way, I immediately went silent and stopped crying.

p.s. it was not storming.
#8
Everyone always asks "Why do such horrible things happen if the law of attraction is true?".
Here is how I see it. Free will and the Law of Attraction coexist on earth. The law of attraction is more like a guide, it cannot stop free will. To make it into a metaphor, think of the LoA as a magnet that is pulling what you are manifesting towards you, but free will is a brick that slides in between the magnet and what it's trying to pull. So you see, sometimes debris can get in the way due to free will and natural causes. Some refer to this as "by default".
#9
Quote from: Lionheart on September 14, 2012, 19:22:47
You don't have to change his mind. This is where your problem is. Just stay with you have your opinion and he has his. Someday you or he may see differently, but for now let it go. Work on yourself and you will see that in intself will rub off on him!  :-)
Unless of course that this is the way you two communicate, bond and have father and son time together. If it is, then argue on my friend!  :-)

As I said before in the parenthesis, I'm not trying to change his mind at all. We just like to have debates on various topics like sophists used to do :)
#10
Thanks for all of your replies so far :) Again, Right now I'm in a phase of confusion, because I do want to understand my own beliefs. I want them to make logical sense. I feel that even though I've been on my spiritual path for 2 years now, I've only just scraped the surface to enlightenment and understanding.

We had another debate (ours are always peaceful don't worry :P) and even though I will never be able to change his mind (which I'm not trying to do), I feel like I made good points to where he was unable to stump me.
#11
Quote from: Lionheart on September 14, 2012, 05:11:14
Unfortunately there is no evidence to prove outwardly what Consciousness is. You just have to believe what you are personally being shown. I believe Consciousness is everything and everywhere. We are Conscious Energy ourselves!   :-)

Well I know what my Father would say to this, which is, if there is no evidence then why believe in it?
See, this is why I'm always left feeling stumped and defeated by my him, perhaps even intimidated.
#12
Quote from: Lionheart on September 14, 2012, 04:51:03
You are both allowed your own opinions on this, even if they differ from one another. Just believe what is in your heart and what you have already shown yourself to be true. You will likely never change his view, unitil he gets proof himself!  :-)

I don't know what to believe, that's why I'm asking. I would just like theories and/or evidence from other people on this forum who believe consciousness is more than just chemical processes in the brain. I don't want to "believe" in something that I have no evidence or support on. I know that since consciousness isn't materialistic, is cannot be tested with science. My Father thinks that if there is no proof of existence, then it is crazy to believe in it. Which is why he thinks the concept of "faith" is ridiculous.
#13
Welcome to Quantum Physics! / Debating Consciousness
September 14, 2012, 04:31:54
Hello all,
Sometimes my Father and I have debates pertaining to spirituality. He is an atheist, and I consider myself a new-ager.
We recently came across the subject of consciousness.

His point of view: Consciousness is nothing more than chemicals in the brain that work together to create thoughts, emotions, and reactions. Then when we die, those chemicals cease to move, therefore you no longer exist (meaning there is no after-life).

So he basically believes that we are just highly evolved animals, and our intelligence and awareness are nothing more than chemical reactions.

I told him that I believe there is more to it than that. However, I didn't really have a response to counteract his point of view though, because I am still in the early stages of my spiritual path to enlightenment, including the studying of quantum physics. His statement got me thinking, almost to the point of believing it because I felt the skepticism of my ego kicking in. I need deeper understanding, that's why I'm making this thread.

Based on your knowledge, what are your opinions or even opposition on his statement?

I'll admit I am in a phase of confusion. Because of how I was raised, I do question a lot of things and want scientific explanations as well. On the other hand, I have had experiences (such as seeing orbs and being able to feel spiritual energy) that cannot be explained with science, so I know there is more than just this three dimensional "reality"...  but my Father thinks it's just all in my mind, and that the brain can convince itself to believe whatever it wants to.
#14
There are different types of memories. There are mechanical memories which are learned such as tying our shoes, cooking, and mathematical equations. There are sensory memories, things we see/hear/smell/touch/taste. There are also short-term and long-term memories, which have to do with time. There are practical memories, such remembering to buy milk if you're out or an office meeting the next day.
Then there are emotional memories such as events, relationships, and reasoning.
You say people are telling you to "let go" the past, which sounds to me like this has to do with emotional memories. Though no one can ever truly let go/forget their past, I think what they are really trying to say is don't dwell on past events, because they cannot be changed.

Take for example a couple who gets divorced. They will never forget the relationship; the good and bad times that came with it. However, they should let go and move on with their life, because what's done is done. Hopefully they would have learned something from the experience and it will effect future reasoning/actions in a positive way.

In my opinion, one should never really focus too harshly on the past or future. The present should be the main focal point.
#15
Quote from: KarmicBeats on September 12, 2012, 05:31:43
IMHO it is a good idea to balance all the chakras and when trying to open the 3rd eye. 

I agree. I also think meditation is probably the most effective way of opening the third eye. If you balance all of your chakras during meditation and then move on to solely focusing on the third eye, you will be amazed what happens. Just concentrate on the pineal gland or third eye chakra during meditation with your eyes closed. Sometimes I feel a pressure in my head if I focus on the third eye for a long time during meditation. I take it as a sign of activation. Best of luck!
#16
Welcome to Magic! / Re: Possible Haunting
September 13, 2012, 06:38:24
Haunted? Hardly. For any person to be "haunted" would mean some entity is targeting a specific person, and that is very very rare. If your vibrational frequencies are positive most of the time, it is highly doubtful you will attract negative energy due to the law of attraction.
#17
Yes, it is a psi ball. When you use imagination you send out energy into the universe. This in turn can manipulate the physical. Psi balls are great tools for psychic training. You could do this again if you do energy work concentrating on the third eye.

#18
Quote from: Volgerle on August 03, 2011, 10:30:41
what tells you that they are 'stuck' ghosts? they needn't be necessarily, e.g. as regards reincarnation they could be spirits waiting to be born and 'roaming around', which is often said to be done by to-be-borns in the womb.  :wink:
however, I don't say they are spirits at all, because I don't know, well, maybe they are sth like elemental entities or similar?

You're right, it could be people waiting to be born. I guess it has always been the conception/myth that ghosts are lost souls..but it makes more sense that they are just waiting to be reincarnated.
#19
*delete please* old post
#20
Quote from: Save Your Servant on September 16, 2010, 00:21:56
Please, I hope somebody can help me.

My wife is an astral projector. She is constantly AP'd into other planes, both of Focus 2 and Focus 3 levels. Since she has been doing this she has become extremely sick, and doctors don't have any idea what is wrong with her. They have done every test imaginable to diagnose her but nothing.

I will be honest, I have always objected to her AP'ing. I am Christian, and I believe that other dimensions and realities are seperated from our own for good reason. However, I never used to interfere with her affairs until the other night when I got very disturbed by how she was acting.

I was speaking to her normally then she started hearing things that I was saying that I wasn't really saying. She began conversing with me, even though I wasn't talking. She couldn't seem to hear me telling her it isn't me speaking. Then she blacked out.

Her voice became a whisper, and deep. But it wasn't speaking to me. It was saying her name several times, breathing heavy then stopping. Then she would regain consciousness and think i said something bad to her when I did not. Then it would happen again.

My first thought, was Schitsophrenia. But that was until she went into another trance and told me "your lover will never be well again, she belongs to me" i became more concerned. I figured it was a spirit from another plane, so I spoke to it and asked it who it was and it said "Legion". I recognised that immediatelly as the spirit that Jesus Exorcised from Michael in the Bible. After it told me that I was terrified, and have been looking for help ever since. Nobody will help her, and she refuses to go to a psychiatrist. No church will do anything like Exorcisms because its not proven she isn't insane yet.

I only know about AP from what my wife tells me. So I knwo little. But you people are the experts. Can her AP'ing have allowed this demon through? Could this be the reason she is sick?? Can someone please help me?


Okay. It sounds to me like there is a lot of confusion going on here.

First and most importantly of all : A negative entity/spirit/demon/whatever you want to call it cannot "possess" or "torment" or do anything to a person. Why you ask? Because we are attached by a silver chord that cannot be severed. An entity cannot harm, an entity cannot steal. And what I'm talking about are entities with lower vibrations. Even visiting the lower planes is no big deal because the entities there will only try to scare you, and that's only if they want to..Usually they know if you are prone to scare tactics, and the only reason people get scared is because they see unfamiliar faces,objects,colors,etc.. kind of like in horror movies that try to scare you with weird visuals.

Secondly, the entities/demons/whatever that are of lower vibrations only stay within the lower vibration planes. They cannot access planes with higher vibrations. That being said, earth is a higher vibrational plane. So negative entities cannot come and "haunt" us if you will. This is the system that has been set by the divine.

Now, onto the confusion with your wife. She is hearing things in her head you say. My thoughts on this are that if she has been projecting for a while, she could be experiencing some cosmic "static". Like when you are tuning a radio and you hear the static in between stations. Her astral body is probably hearing things in the astral plane because she did not fully tune back into her physical self.  This comes from not grounding and centering.

for more information on that go to this link : http://www.articlesbase.com/self-improvement-articles/tips-for-healers-grounding-amp-centering-2046997.html

It is VERY important to ground and center when you are working with energy in any form. I learned this the hard way unfortunately.

The only other possibility I can think of is something that is physically happening inside of her brain. A chemical imbalance can cause audio hallucinations. I'm not saying she has a mental disorder, just that sometimes a surge of chemicals/hormones can play tricks on the mind. If this instance happens again, I would take her to a healthcare professional just in case.

If it does turn out like someone in this thread mentioned before that she is playing with you, I would inform her that it is not nice of her to do that to you and that it's causing you to really worry about her.



Quote from: Save Your Servant on April 20, 2011, 19:09:40
This might sound crazy, but this spirit began to "post" on her website, calling her by a different name saying "come here, I need you". It did this while I was there in the chatroom and my wife said "okay i'll be there". I don't even know how it is possible for a spirit from another plane to post on a website, or why it would even bother, but this has happened with a lot of the spirits my wife says she meets. She says they AP into people here to talk to her.  She claims to trust or even sometimes "love" these spirits. She cares for them, sometimes, I feel she does so even more than she cares for me.

Not possible. You will not be able to contact / be contacted personally by entities from the astral planes in such a way. Spirit guides/God/higher self can give you "signs" (such a cliche, but thats how they do it). For example, if you are under financial stress and you call upon your guides for direction on how to get more money, they will only give you signs indirectly. Not a personal message in your inbox saying "hey this is your spirit guide". No, it doesn't work that way. You can only converse with them telepathically and in astral form. They can also hear you if you talk to them out loud (e.g. prayer). And that only applies to, once again, entities/spirits with very high vibrations. Entities can project to earth just as we can project outside of it; but when you project, earth as you see it now does not look the same when you are in astral form. So they cannot come to earth, find a computer, and start typing. They can only see the energies of objects, and manipulate them even. They cannot use objects the way we do because they do not have a physical body. In the case of the website, It sounds like again she is up to something intentionally or that you could have misinterpreted a conversation between her and another person. By the way, out of curiosity, what is her website?

Hope this helped.

-LotusPaper

#21
Welcome to Dreams! / Re: 1st lucid dream???
February 06, 2011, 13:21:27
Yep I'd say you were as well because you recognized you were.
One time when I was dreaming I asked the people in my dream if I was dreaming and they told me no! So then I kept on going in my dream. Lol I can't believe I got tricked like that by my own dream characters!
Anyway, if this happens to you again see if you can take it further and take control of the dream.
#22
I'm in the process of learning to LD. I have started a dream journal and can remember some of my dreams. However my dreams are sooooo boring lately. I seriously dream about normal everyday life things. Like going to work, talking to people I know, nothing that it's out of the ordinary. So how do you suppose I will realize I'm dreaming if the dream scenery is a mimic of my everyday scenery?

The weird thing is that I'm an artist and very creative, so why are my dreams so dull at the moment? It hasn't always been this way, just the last few weeks.
#23
Thank you both for the information. I also figured out the other factor to me feeling this way. I took a little vacation from work and was not very active during those days so laying in bed a lot plus deep relaxing astral practice led to my body feeling overwhelmed with too much inactivity.anyway I did the grounding techniques and am feeling better.
#24
Thank you I will try it. The only technique I've been doing is laying on my back, taking deep breaths and relaxing every muscle until my body goes numb, usually I will then start to feel vibrations but then somehow stay in. I think it's because my higher self knows I need to practice before the full take off. But after I give up and just want to sleep, I will feel this sensation.

I also got a tip that if you exercise daily it will ground you more as you are working more with your physical body.

Thanks for your reply.  :wink:
#25
Anybody else know what i'm talking about? Or am I the only one...