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Szaxx I have been thinking about what you said. I believe you are correct, I have allowed another belief system to alter my own. I am influenced by the beliefs of others and my reality frame has shifted. I have accepted that I must find a more positive point of view, hence why I rejected the thoughts of my friend. And have even requested help out of my own beliefs, and I have received a sign. I am grateful for your assistance. Your words are wise and I will use the this lesson.

Thank you

I've been wondering how to write this down without looking to gullible. Nevertheless the
evidence is convincing, and I am still trying to swallow the information given to me this last
month.

A friend of mine, whom recently became a Christian confided in me that she was going through
some terrible moments. She admitted she was scared to death of what was coming after her and her
son. She said that she was meant to pay up for her practices of Wicca. She ran terrified out of
her witch group and resorted to a church that baptized her and offered her protection. She is
much calmer now and in good faith I see her happy and healthy.

She spoke to me of Hell's rising, that these days more and more evil is entering our world. She
had been practicing spell-craft and sorcery for some years with other people yet when I met her
she never gave a hint of being witch-like.

Now for some context, I used to be Catholic, and I fervently followed it, I would consciously
separate good from bad in whatever situation I saw, and for a time it was good to recognize it.
With catholicism I was given the assurance that I was protected by God and that I had to
acknowledge good from evil. Catholics always gave an image to evil, Demons and the Devil, and an
image to Good, Angels and God. The evil images only existed for me as long as I believed in this
religion.

Once I reached my teenage years I drifted away from the church, feeling it was negatively
impacting my life, for that I was always in pain and alone. After leaving religion behind, all
manner of demons and devils ceased to exist for I no longer acknowledged their existence as
individuals. I recognized that both good and evil exist, but they were no longer single entities
out to catch me. I was grateful for leaving the church because I managed to adapt easier to
society and make a few friends.

Fast forward to last month, this friend of mine spoke to me. She said I am posessed by a demon,
and a big one at that. She spoke of how she knew of it, she saw it, she felt it, and until
today, she admitted that she and her group of Wicca practicioners had been scanning to find me
(or rather the demon that lies within). She and her ex practicioners are all now following their
church where they feel protected from following an ancient art that has consequences...

When she spoke of my demon, I couldn't believe it, yet I had a hint that she might be onto
something. I was not believing her and I could easily answer her theories with my own based on
Astral Projection and the wider reality that we have been recognizing by means of experience and
the books/authors most of us have read on this forum (Monroe, Campbell, Frank Kepple etc). I
told her I no longer subscribed to those belief systems, that evil was not a force within me and
I know of my own good heart and will. Yet for some strange reason my apartment became twice as
cold as usual and I began shaking.

I spoke to her of how the shadow that was near me when I managed to astral project could have
been a manifestation of my own fears, or even better, a test from my own guide. But she is
convinced that something supernatural lurks around me. She also says that I know of IT. (I keep
saying no, but I feel she might be right... I cant really tell, maybe this demon has been here with me from early on).
She says I must see it for myself. Although after speaking with her, I only fear she has increased my fear of the unknown
to the point where if I do search for it, I will find it. I have fallen into her story and I
could create this scenario for myself. I feel I cannot prove or disprove it since I already have
a hint of believing her.

Now something else happened. Last week I brought a girl home, whom I have a crush on. We were
talking for a few minutes before we had to leave for a soccer match that some friends had. She
said she felt something in my apartment, that someone else was here. I took the opportunity to
speak of ghosts and astral projection, but I never intended to scare her. I told her of the
shadow that was next to me. All of a sudden she shifted and started crying, she was in panic,
although with her eyes wide open she could not see me, she was seeing someone else, she kept
saying "You aren't him!, your are not him!" I tried calming her down, she sat down still crying
and in terror of me. Fortunately the phone rang, it was a friend saying he was outside and that
we should get on our way to the match. This interruption brought her back and I took her to my
car. She calmed down, but now it was me who was uneasy.

I cannot avoid feeling a little Ego increase after my ex-witch friend mentioned that others know
of me and that which lurks beside. She says they have known for some time, and some of these
people I even know but they wont say who they are. I feel watched...!! She also mentioned I
could have opened a door early in life that allowed this entity to reach me. I told her of how I
played OUIJA as a kid, as well as tried a couple of things here and there.
She holds this demon responsible of my loneliness and my terrible luck with women (my luck with
women is another topic altogether, I get noticed a lot by women, but I rarely get a girlfriend...)

I cannot really know how to interpret all of this, I don't feel like blaming my bad situation
onto something external is really the solution. For all intents and purposes I have been on a
path were I realize that I myself am responsible for my loneliness, I pushed people away, I kept
myself closed and locked down from people so that I would't get hurt. I avoid having girlfriends
and talking to people because of former experiences where I learned that the solution to pain
was to avoid people. (I know I shouldn´t and that is something I am currently working on... )
I've even had strange phenomenon occur to me, two years ago was a spontaneously enlightened for
around 8 months, and all was good, I couldn't find evil anywhere and I was followed all day by a
bright white light.


In any case I just wanted to get this off of my chest as it has kept me uneasy the past few
weeks, I cannot even attempt to astral project in fear of this creature, this entity which she
gave life to by mentioning it to me. She assures me IT has kept everyone at bay, and moreso that
she was punished by it when she got close to me.

I know that her belief system is quite strong, and I have always been gullible to other people's
beliefs. Given her beliefs and the fact that the girl I brought home got terrified of me make me think.
I just want to know if anyone believes in demonic posession, if Hell trully is rising,
if I can overcome this, or if is just a bunch of rubish. I feel I lost the power to prove her
theories since I myself will create the entity. I dont know what to make of this.

Thanks

Hey Doc Sky
Glad to hear you had the chance to purchase both the Laxman and the Procyon. If you are having issues with the brightness on the Laxman with eye open sessions, just turn down the brightness. I also noticed that the lights bothered me more and it was harder to keep my eyes open (mostly depending on the climate region). In the beach it was easier and actually comfortable to keep eyes open all the time with the laxman, but in the mountains it is too dry to keep your eyes open, and it becomes hurtful.
Quick question, I just read on the MindPlace support forums that the Laxman goggles are actually compatible with the Procyon.
Can you confirm this, and if so, let us know if the results are any better!

Lionheart
Thanx a lot for sending over the laxman session, Ill check it out and let you know the results.

I managed to have a 20 minute session yesterday with the countryside preset, here is my experience for any who want to know.

At first the brightness was a little too much, but I got used to it after a couple of minutes, then I started drifting off. I began wondering if one should look straight into the goggles center on, or if looking slightly down would be an issue, or maybe I was just overthinking the process. I used the laxman flat on a bed , with a small pillow, and once I was very relaxed my eyesight kind of went downward and I no longer was looking straight up into the goggles, noticing that I can clearly see the edges of the goggles in my field of view.

A few more moments pass, I realize that somehow I no longer perceive the goggle's edges, And the colors seem to go beyond a normal field of view, I feel surrounded by the flickering lights almost reaching behind me. Meanwhile I am hearing birds from the audio track. Now is when I become a little scared...

Ive been a videogamer all my life and besides that I work making games, so I am no stranger to light effects on a screen, but a strange phenomena usually happens when Ive been too long in a game. After playing and laying down to sleep, depending on how long I had played, my mind would go berzerk and I would see a lot of flickering shapes, usually small round objects or large round objects, they would come and go as they pleased and each time they would last only an instant , but in that instant I would be very shocked because of their movement/ presence/ and the lack of control I had over them, no matter what I tried to imagine in order to overlay it above these figures, they always had precedence over my imagination, so as a kid I was always terrified when this occurred, mostly because its erratic and you have no control, through out the years this happened less and less, it happens probably once a year now, and I still have no idea if this phenomenom has a name.

Back to the laxman, deep into yesterdays session, i began seeing a face pop in and out, fly over and below, it was an orange haired man. It wasnt there long enough for me to see any detail, but i attempted to not focus on it and see what else came up. Then after a while I felt another image / presence coming and going, it was some sort of feathered lizard, coming and going. The effects of these images are exactly like the childhood images which I had no control over, it made me very uncomfortable, but I kept with it. After a while these flashing shifting objects just became unbearable, I had to lift my arms and construct with my mind some sort of shield so as to not be so startled by the moving lights, it worked but only because I got out of my relaxing point.

This has only happened with the countryside sessions, the others havent had this effect, but I will continue testing. Does any one relate with some of these symptomps?

Any comments are gladly appreciated.

Hi everyone!

After reading through this thread, I was convinced into buying a laxman. I now have had mine for about a week, and Im really enjoying it, although I havent had as much time to use it as I'd like to. I love how easy and fast one reaches deeper states of consciousness.

I can also add that I lent the device to my father for a quick test, he was intrigued by it, and loved the experience he had. He managed to relax easily and sleep very profoundly that night. Also, he somehow had the impression before sleeping that he was going to die, I told him it was rubbish and he should just get some sleep. This idea was so much into his head, that he was dreaming of his death,(he does not remember this) but I know because he began talking in his sleep, saying "help me! Im dying" over and over again, i was very shocked by this since my father has very light sleep, and merely tapping on his shoulder wakes him up, but he was so deep into his dream that I even lifted him up and he did not wake up, I was a little scared since this was not normal, but after a while he rolled over and continued sleeping.

I am positive there was no harm, and it was just his own impression of the experience that carrried over into his subconciousness, but I was very amazed at how just 1 use of the laxman sent my father so deep, I'm glad I bought this, and will continue experimenting.

Btw, lionheart, is there any chance you could share the session you made for the laxman for others here on the forum?

Thanx

Hi everyone
I found this site a while back, I don't know if anyone else has posted it here.
This site allows you to breathe, meditate or even pronounce the om sound with others around the planet. Pretty neat in fact.

enjoy!

http://www.doasone.com/BreathingRooms.aspx?RoomID=1

I had two consecutive Astral Projections one morning. In the first I aproached a large mirror in my room and saw my face was quite disfigured, it shape shifted and altered itself. Then I got distracted and drifted off. The second time I also approached the mirror, I could see myself clearer but with a red halo, and both eyes seemed to turn into one. I didnt see this as anything scary or negative, just another interesting experience.

Hi everyone,

I found this online the other day and thought it was great

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Instead of wasting your time trying to see Area51 or other military bases, try finding the most beautiful sights you can.

Great!, thanx for recommending it, I just bought and hope it arrives soon!

Hi guys, just wondering if anyone has seen

http://www.thepathseries.com/

and if so, is it a good buy?

I think I finally understand why so many topics in the forum are about the confusion about a dream and an astral projection. I had only ever had phasing projections or lucid dreams before, so the difference between them was very apparent to me. But just recently I managed to have a wake up obe. Right after I woke up , I didnt move an inch and managed to split out.

I walked around my room, requested "Clarity Now", and somehow my sight improved, also I remember breathing in to take more strength as I felt very sleepy. I looked into a mirror and found nothing. I decided to step outside my apartment but somehow things got hazy there and the layout was very different from what I know. Then I lost my strength and fell back into my body.

Once again I didnt move an inch, I decided to try moving out again!. This time I requested "Awareness Now!" and managed to feel much more energized,  but still slightly sleepy. Oddly I saw my reflection in the mirror this time, although very fuzzy and hairless. In fact the mirror could reflect my whole self without me changing of perspective (ie: I could see my back even though I was looking straight into the mirror). Now I tried to phase through the roof, I could see layer after layer of white paint while I pulled myself up with my arms, suddenly I felt a dog or animal start smelling me from below (although I have no pets) I just laughed and lost my grip. Lost my energy and fell back into my body.

Although I was aware of the environment and of myself, this experience resembled very little of what I had experienced of obes previously. Things seemed less real and more dreamlike , where in my Astral Projections everything seemed alive and very real.

I finally understand why its confusing for so many people, "was this a dream or an obe"? I guess the answer is BOTH, its just a matter of how aware one really is.

Let me know what you all think!

Thanx for the insight David!
Its great to know how this can change a person, I hope to find the answers that I seek.

Hi all!

Ive read about some projectors who after many years reach a point where they dont need to focus any where, because they are ever present atleast up to focus 3 (Frank Kepple's model). Is this really possible? Do you know what this is like? How to achieve it? My concern is because I'd like to see its application in Physical Matter Reality. For example try solving a problem (say a computer algorithm) simply closing your eyes, going into focus 2 or 3, solving it there, and returning with the solution. All in a manner of a few seconds. If this were possible, I think we could all benefit greatly from such an ability!

Great advice fellow projectors!

Im back in business, trying to project. First of all trying to remember the most out of my dreams, so Im keeping my dream journal up to date. Currently up to 2 or 3 dreams remembered per day. I know I can reach around 7 as that was my previous standing, but I let that habit go because of the time it needed, I would spend a page on each dream so it actually was taking up a lot of time.
I also noticed that It might not only be fear that is keeping me grounded, but instead a heavy mind. The chatter and mind wandering is a real bother, so I got to remember how to meditate. I feel I've heard the Gateway Experience too many times, that I simply ignore what Bob says, and drift off. I have to keep focused!

Answering:
"Ask Yourself why do you want to project"?
I guess I have the doubt, why would I? I mean LionHeart, David, what are youre accomplishments? I have read tons of books and forums about OBEs and I still ignore what the true benefit is. I know that we can finally understand our mortality, our origin, who and what we are. But how can that improve me? how does this make me better or more than what I currently am? Im interested because the unknown has always spiked my interest, but as far as answering lifelong questions, what else can we gain? Please let me know your experiences and how they have transformed you, I'd really like to know.


Thanx

Guys
Thanx for the great advice!
Szaxx Ill try practicing in the mornings, as Ive always done it in the nights where I simply doze off. Ive read this many times. Its just hard to find the energy and time required to try, I did so a few times and the whole day I spent really tired.
LightBeam you are right, I didnt see it that way, the motivation exists. What I lack instead might be discipline! Now the question is how to achieve it! And facing a bad experience (nightmares) really isnt my thing... in fact I stepped away from all sorts of terror movies and excrement that messes with your brain. Any tip on how to "send" positive energy or positive thoughts ? I mean if Im in a scary scenario I think it might be hard to forget the fear and think positive when one is overwhelmed by absolute terror.

LionHeart, I'd like to answer those questions, but OBEs still are a great question mark in my mind  (I dont doubt they are real, but I ignore their extent as to what are my goals there), so far I can only think of facing my fears and overcoming my own limitations. Figuring out answers to questions like "who am I?" or "what am I doing here?" are important but I dont really care (at least not now), If we are born without knowing certain things then their might be a purpose behind the fact that we remember nothing of what came before. I guess that is something to find out! Why dont we know about our previous existence?

Hi, not new to the forum, been following it for quite some time, but I've never really posted anything. My question is how can one obtain the motivation necessary to re start learning OBE techniques. Around 3 years ago I managed to achieve some OBEs in a 3 week time frame, yet due to fear I left it. But I never stopped reading or listening to binaural beats (for meditation). Now Im struggling with keeping my attention into trying this out again, when I listen to hemisync I simply drift off into sleep and I never concentrate. I need some motivation in order to reachieve this. Any ideas?

(My experience 3 years ago led me to see a strange figure next to my bed , so I kinda chickened out...)