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Ok well I was listening to a hypnotic tape that had nothing to do with OBEing but after I was in the trance from it wasnt paying attention at all..I was just not thinking about anything except how deep of a trance i was in and if this is what it would feel like before I would OBE when I tried.. I started feeling weird like I couldnt feel my body (even tho I knew it was there) then I started feeling myself moving? Like my arm was lifting up..lol or trying to then I came to..

I didnt really experience vibrations that were violent and I wasnt hearing any sounds like everyone seems to describe.. Am I getting closer or does that sound like I was imagining things?

If astral projection is like walking in a fantasy world..

And lucid dreaming is controlling your dream..

Could they be the same thing or no?

Ive been studying all these online energies (ki, psi, etc) and everything with it. First off I have a question. What is the difference between OBE and Astral Projection?

Anyway I can make Ki balls but otherwise I can't do anything yet. I just starting reading up on that NEW article so I will practice that when I get a chance.

Last night I tried to meditate and maybe try to lucid dream or astral project but I didnt decide what I was doing whether it was lucid dream or astral project. I was just seeing where it would lead. Anyway I was in bed and I was at the point where I couldn't really move or feel my body and I was trying to concentrate on the blackness I was seeing behind my eyes. The only problem was I was to focused on breathing and I was trying to stop focusing on it but I was..feeling the need to breath harder and harder and then I couldn't concentrate anymore and came out of my 'trance' if I can call it that. I tried maybe three more times to do w/e I was doing but it didn't work.

Does anyone reconize what I was trying to do? Any tips on getting past focusing on breathing?

lol sry if i sound like a noob to all this but I am and you'll just have to deal. []

Yeah quite a waste of time if you dont have the time to begin with..

I guess I should just keep it to nights when everyone is asleep but I'd like to do it more. There is really one place I could go for quiet, my clubhouse I built in the back yard but its winter here and there is like 2+ feet of snow so I think Ill stay in my warm house for now..

Hey, I havent posted here in a while I kinda lost..hmm..the excitement I had about APing but two days ago I got 2 books and one is for my friend and I read the other that night and tried to AP 4 times since then:

1) I was starting to meditate and the phone rang and my mom talked for like an hour so I gave up.

2) That morning I tried to AP and saw colors but my parents were again making to much noise. This was the closest I got so far.

3) Around 5 that night I tried again but I rushed myself a little to much cause I knew I didnt have much time before dinner.

4) This was the closest I got. 10-10:30 PM last night it was nice and quiet and I was meditating for about a halfhour concentrating on mainly my third eye and using the Body of Light method and at one point I felt myself starting to shake/fall and my thoughts went wild and I couldnt think of what I should have done at that point and I felt myself breathing heavy but then got to excited and woke up. ^_^;

For four tries I would say thats a good start.

It may be a waste for you but it might make them happy. I personally dont watch tv in the real world and I wouldnt in AP.

If I APed Id go walk thru a field or something and enjoy the scenery which some people may consider a waste but even tho im at my computer 90% of the time Im kind of a nature person and would like that..Just being in the astral plane I would like..

TY for the reply its greatly appreciated! I cant really do this at night tho I tend to fall asleep so I guess a trance via hypnosis is how it will work for me.. *shrugs*

From sites I read this is the energy that gives you the ability to do things you normally cant do and a physical thing you could think of it as is a better version of adrenalin..

That is what I have read from sites, if its true or not I dont kno..

quote:Originally posted by NayInteresting thing I have found, is that I have gotten very good at opening my third eye chakra (I even see a wonderful vibrant purple when it is open)

Hmm I just was in trance as I posted and I saw this bright purple/dark blue and I thought it was the astral sky []
Maybe it wasnt but its good to kno im not the only one that had that[]

lol ask him to give us the number of the 'Guardian hotline'

Ask him, 'When I hang up this phone and turn around will you be there?' []

I was thinking the same thing! I was like 'yea ok but whats that have to do with OBEing.' []

If thats the case...Then it would be almost impossible to find someone wouldnt it?

Sry I didnt reply again I posted that THEN went to the website and read. and lol for the tshirts I noticed that! so yea ill try doing this excercise a few times a day. three of my goals are mastering ki/jing, astral projecting/obeing, and seeing auras..

Ugh a whole new world to memorize. Oh well exploration is always fun [^] full of exciting things that ive never seen before. (will be kind of hard to find specific ppl tho lol)I decided to devote 2 hours a day to meditation and to try to obe/project everynight.. []

What are we sposed to do with the circles again?

once im able to do this ill meet someone there ^_^

is it like our world cept with new images or is it like a whole new world?

Whats RTZ? ^^;;;

Is it possible to meet other people on the astral plane?

ah yes I read your animal projecting thing and a lot of other threads before I created my membership for this forum. I thought it was kind of funny but when I think about it people dont even believe what we beleve about astral projection/ki etc and I dont think very highly of them so why should I judge whether an animal can project or not. Id love having a conversation with my cat []

How long have you been trying?

I did much research on the difference between astral projection and OBEing today and I am more incline to try OBEing first but how do I choose which I want to do?

Thx for responding! ^^

Like I said I tried three times and the less I thought about breathing the more I felt myself gasping for air. ^_^;;

Oh well Im gonna try again tonight. Should I do anything like meditating before I go to bed?

BTW I look forward to being an active part of this community and I'd love to learn as much as I can on anything relating to this. []