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Sorry Oni... lol... northern english term for 'getting out of there'.

Ready to separate or un-physicalize I meant.

thank you for the explanation    i'am still learn all the specifics english terms

i told you what i thought in that moment because i don't knew that you aren't afraid of demons


by the way i'm glad that the exorcism helped you

[I think that the noise that you are talking about is the ambient background 'hiss']

I think that the noise that you are talking about is the ambient background 'hiss'. [...]

You should turn your attention to listening to what you hear internally... in your mind. I think this may be the premise of Phasing... not sure. All attention is geared towards a task of taking your attention away from your physical body and the world surrounding it.

ye i think the same, it can be a nice methods for taking your attention away from your body.

I create my own internal dialogue. Sometimes I advise people to think of their name because it is the most familiar sound to them. To repeat it until heard in the head. It can be a song... a sentence. I usually find that the babble takes on a life of it's own. When this happens it is accompanied by little intermittent bursts of rumbling (this is the middle ear going into spasm). I know at this point that I'm ready to do the offs.

sometimes i do the same think but usually i use a song.

probably it will be a stupid question but i'm new and i'm not english so i would like to know what do you mean with "offs" "i'm ready to do the offs"

there are few elements to tell you what or who was that thing, are u sure that wasn't demonophobia ?
it's difficult found the difference between a demonophobia or a demonic oppression, by the way if that particular exorcism make you feel better, it's a good thing.
during this period you or your family see some preternatural phenomenon? like voice or falling objects without explanation ?
actually the better thing that you should do is try to don't think about it, at the least for the first period, because you risk to fall in a real demonophobia.

thank to everyone for the "welcome" 


stillwater:
grazie per il benvenuto! per un attimo mi sono sentito a casa  complimenti per l'italiano è sicuramente migliore del mio inglese!! loool

[I try focusing hard]

One thing thats really confusing me is how to look at the blackness in front of me.

I try focusing hard on it in front of me, I try manually relaxing my face while focusing hard. I try not  focusing on looking at it but being aware that its there. I try not looking at it and distracting myself with mental images so i'm not aware or interested in the black in front of me. I try controlling my breathing, I try letting my breathing do whatever it wants while I just let myself naturally relax without thinking about it. I try looking straight up with my eyes closed. I try looking straight ahead with my eyes closed. Etc until the end of time

during my experiences, i tried a lot of methods, and i think you try to control everything it could be a nice method but sometimes it doesn't works, so i try to give you some different advice.

from what i read i think you fail because you think all the time at your body, make a try don't think about it, imagine that you are out of your body, try to touch the table, the chair, try to use your meanings, feel the things like the reality (but in your imagination), try for a time to doesn't think about your body, after 15-20 minutes if it works u should feel the vibrations.

thank you!!

there are some italian members ?

hi to everyone!!

before i start introducing myself, i must say that my english isn't good... so please try to undestand me when i'll write something and if is possible don't kill me  said that i start to tell u something about me

so i'm 18 year old, i'm an italian boy (sicily) and i'm interested of astral projection for something like 5 years, i started when i was 13, ever if for 1-2 years i stopped the experience, but now i want continue on this way, probably i have read all italian information about this phenomenon, however i have read the robert monroe's e-book ( i dunno if u know it) and a book of william buhlman, and now i found new information on this forum.

by the way i'm interested also of demonology (i have read "summae demoniaca" fortea) and paranormal (but i think i can classificate as skeptical in that subject), i start to interested on this thing at 10-11 years old for reason that i don't wan explain ^^


i think i have done.


byeee i'm going to read something!!