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#1
I think my ability is gone, I used to be able to induce sleep paralysis easily, then into a projection, now I can't and I have no idea how to project anymore, I try every night.
#2
Alright so last night I had drank some alcohol (I dont drink often) and I got very drunk, I was so drunk that I just went right to bed, my head was spinning right when I closed my eyes and I felt horrible, eventually I awoke in a very dark place, I was crawling around in the same spot because it was very hard to move, I felt like every movement I made was pain and Wanted to die, I laid motionless In the darkness, in pain, for what seemed like quite a while before I finally lost my consciousness and fell asleep, Where was this  place I ended up?
#3
This morning I woke up, But I wanted to go back to sleep, upon doing so I felt like I couldnt move, It was a scary feeling so I tried pulling myself out of bed to get out of this state, I grabbed the side of my bed and pulled very hard trying to pull my heavy body off the bed onto the floor ( This was all part of the experience) then I woke up, and went back into this state soon after, where I again confused myself with being awake when I wasn't, and tried again to pull myself off my bed, I did this several times going in and out of sleep, my goal was Just to keep myself out of a state of feeling like I couldnt move, not to have an OBE. I wish Iwas trying to Have an OBE at that moment I would have succeeded for sure!
#4
Ok so last night I attempted another Out of body experience, This time I quieted my mind and focused on the ringing in my ears. I have a loud ringing in my ears all the time (which I dont focus on but when I do I hear it) and I read that if you focus on this pitch it can help you have an OBE.

I had a target in mind, eventually for a very brief moment I felt like I was outside somewhere and could see tall treese around me, but I instantly regained normal mental awreness and awoke in my body, I know I was never asleep but I believe I was in a long period of mental chatter that I was completely unaware of before I winded up outside for a brief moment.

I remember having many thoughts before I winded up outside but I blieve I was in this mental unaware state but not alseep, does that make sence?

How Can I get better from here?
#5
I attempt out of body experiences all the time for the past year, but it only worked the first time I tried. With all my failure I no longer have any confidence in what im supposed to be doing while im attepting. I can quiet my mind and have no thoughts coming in, but I always have an awareness im lying in bed and I dont feel like its getting me anywhere.Do you sttempt Exit methods while you can still feel your concious body? I always feel that I cannot get away from my concious body no moatter what, and as I start to get deeper into relaxation I kind of lose focus of what im doing and bring awareness back to my mind. so what should I be thinking about while im lying there, I know im not going to fall asleep I can keep myself from doing that, but It seems like All I do is lay in my bed and get nowhere.

Please try and explan what you think about while your projecting, while you still feel yourself in your concious body.
#6
I havent had an OBE in a while, even though I attempt one daily, but I started being able to see things while my eyes are closed. Actually, I find this very fascinating because its very easy, moments after I close my eyes whenever I go to bed, I start to see my room, I find this very bizare and amazing, it gets clearer and clearer, I constatnly keep stopping my OBE Attempt because I think my eyes are opening when they are not. I wave my hands in front of my face and I can see every motion my fingers are doing, Can I use this to trigger an OBE?
#7
Please share your beliefs whatever they may be, Im hoping to hear a spiritual repsonce, but if it relates to religion, by all means don't hold back. (I like to think there is a god, or a source, or a creator, please share in your responce if you agree)

Im basically wondering if when we do, do we cycle to another human life? Do we remain like who we were in our past lives (if reincarnation is the case) do we develop from life to life becoming a better spiriual being?

Or is life here a one time thing and then when we die we develop as spiritual beings?

again thanks for any replies, they will be very helpful.
#8
When I first had an OBE, it was a couple months after i started smoking weed. I smoked weed daily at that time. when I went to attempt my first OBE, It was during my first weed break, and I wanted to get high really bad throughout that break (Im not that crazy about weed anymore). When My OBE happenned, I was sitting in my computer room feeling really really high, So I guess the desire to be high got carried over into my OBE. I was sitting there enjoying being high when it hit me, that I was once in my bed trying to have an OBE and now I was there in my computer room, at first I didn't realise it was an OBE because of the realness of the environment, the realization sent me back to my body moments later.
#9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIaffp6fsas

if you kinda ignore the music and pay attention to the background noises, doesn't it remind you of noises you would hear before an OBE?
#10
I had another attempt, felt some vibratiions, got very relaxed, but fell asleep. Is there something people do to initiate the leaving of their body?
#11
When I first did it, I remember lying in bed very relaxed, and any thought that came to mind I immediately dismissed, very quickly I awoke in the chair in my computer room (It was at night and I wondered why I was sitting in darkness) I had gone past the vibrational state (I do not recall vibrations, I was trying very hard not to pay attention to anything) and I did not go through the process of leaving my body, I just appeared in my chair in my computer room. Now when I try to Project, I find myself lying in my bed for a very long time, I try not to have any thoughts, but since the process seems to drag on, I find myself in periods of random thought, I then realise I am in a thought process and proceed to go back to trying to keep my mind empty. I usually get subtle vibrations now when I attempt, sometimes my arms or legs jolt a little ( I dont know why) and other times I get a falling sensation, I quickly become aware these feelings are good, but then they go away fast. when these subtle vibrations come, how Can I intensify them? I usually do not try a seperation technique because I know im not fully imerged in the vibrations. I have attempted seperation techniques when I have had subtle vibrations, but still no effect. I believe my biggest issue must be the amount of awareness I retain to what Im physically doing, I just don't know how to take my mind away. How should I bring my awareness down to the nesesary level? Lastly I will say that I have been told you can induce vibrations by listening to the high pitch ringing in your head( which for me is very easy to hear) but I havent had any success with this either.
#12
Quote from: spatialreason on October 22, 2011, 13:18:32
It's nice to hear you've moved past your belief that such a natural thing would be against god, if anything it brings you closer to understanding the nature of life, which is what god should want, right?

I completely agree, The one difference between Now and back in April when I was succeful, Is I had bad bronchitis, which actually cleared up very quickly after my first couple OBE's, maybe because of healing energy? Idk. Back then the bronchitis gave me a very congested throat, and clearing my throat constantly I tohught would have been a  disturbance, yet I still was able to project, I speculate now that maybe this problem was somehow activating my throat chakra making projection easier, again I am not sure.
#13
let me start out by saying a first attempted OBE's back in April, where I was succesful my first attempt and most of my followig attempts, then I stopped out of a misbelief it was against god, for about two months, no worries though Im fine to start practicing again without anything fears and what not holding me back. the problem is now that Ive been trying for over a month every night with no luck at all, Im greatest concern is I ticked off the spirits and they don't want me back! furthermore I adopteed a new visualization method which suprisingly I can imerse myself well into the visulaization, I just can't control it? I start turning in circles and pace back and fourth in the same spot without gaining any ground, now thats bizzare, its just a visualization! I also tried this quick phase method where you imagine a cell phone in your hand upon waking upon, I woke up many times last night during the night and tried it every time, didnt work. Im glad I had success with OBE's when I first started or else I'd never believe this and would have stopped by now, I seek self development and knowledge. to be more of what our species is meant for, I feel it is my duty and right to be able to project again but I just can't! What can I do?
#14
I achieved many OBE's When I first started attempting them, then I stopped due to christian warnings, which no longer bother me. However Now I have been trying for about 2 weeks and I have been very unsuccesful, my methods no longer work and I can't even reach the vibrational state, Also I fail by falling into sleep most of the time, which wasn't a problem before. Anyone have any "fresh" new methods? I think my biggest problem now is my mind wandering, and also impatience.
#15
Thanks for the replies! Also I was wondering If When I have an OBE im actually in this world and can witness and recall real things, or if im just moving around a mind map of my house
#16
Hi so Im kinda wondering what happened here. This is pretty much my first OBE:

1: I attempted an OBE First by relaxing and Waiting to enter the vibrational state, after some time I heard a noise that resembles exactly the sound at 5 seconds in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKglrf2-co0&feature=related (Since Ive seen this video before I recognized the sound when I heard it during my OBE) At this point I was very excited because I knew I was finally on the right track to having an OBE Properly, I felt A rush and A bit of a falling sensation, I was very careful making sure not to restore to much awareness. Because it is really hot here I leave my window open and there was a loud noise outside that occurred at the same moment I was in the vibrational state stopping the experience for me.

I attempt 5 minutes later another OBE which I achieve

2. I go back to bed and Relax deeply, I get to a point where Im in deep sleep paralysis, and Ive completely forgotten Im trying to have an OBE. I have been in sleep paralysis before and realized it, but this time I didn't. In this state I started trying to get out of bed for no reason, I guess I just wanted to get out of bed. I remember having so much trouble, It was so hard for me to try and sit up, I actually thought I was in my physical body, I thought I was actually just trying to get out of bed in reality, but it was my astral body trying to stand. I don't know how I separated because the next thing I knew I was downstairs in my living room, fully aware I was now having an OBE. I moved around my house (I don't think I was flying) for a little bit before I was thrust back into reality and awoke.

What happened when I separated? How Come I didn't fly out of my body, why did I just show up in a different location?
#17
Hello, brand new here! I only started looking up OBE's yesterday and had very interesting results! first of all Id like to say I have entered sleep paralysis many many times throghout my life (currently 18 years of age) I even experienced sleep paralysis the day before I started to learn about OBE's (2 days ago) when I learned sleep paralysis was linked to OBE's I decided to give it a shot!

Last night was my first attempt, I foucsed on my breathing, and allowed all thoughts to come in and out of mine, not foucusing to much on them. I got to a point after what seemed less than 15 minutes of this where my reality became me sitting in my compuer room at my computer (though I was attempting the OBE in a completely differrent room) the enviroment was very vivid and felt like more intense lucid dream, a rush entered my body along with fear, I then felt my body lying still in my bed for a moment of paralysis before I woke up (lack of a better term since I know my mental state of mind was awake the whole time).

The feeling of being in my room was incredible, im not sure if it was an OBE becuase the experience was brief, but I know for sure during the experience my body slept and my mind was awake.


I woke up early and slightly tired this morning, and not yet having to go to school I tried again. This time I entered sleep paralysis and remained in my bedroom. Lying in my bed frozen but Aware I felt my eyes open to look around the room (my physical body had not opened its eyes, please bare with me because this is slightly hard to explain) I tried very hard to get out of my bed, i was trying to sit up and started to! but the effort causes me to open my eyes in reality and screw it all up.


What do you guys think? any suggestions?