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It is probably a bit late to reply, but witchcraftmagic site is a fraud. They let you download a low quality, 20 min. sound file, made from some old vinyl disk with some noise, dust and scratches. Than, if you try to ask for their "guarantee" or a "promise" to refund your money, there will be no answer.

DG

I believe it was written in his newsletters. Once I tracked it down by mapblast. It is south France, not far from Italian boarder. Unfortunately, I have deleted his news letters, and cannot find it anymore. Maybe somebody still keeps them.

DG

There is an old-fashion way to look for a person - go to his place and check it out. There must be some members living within few hours driving distance from his address, which is published.

Regards,

DG

Hi,

I have a very practical question.

I have lost contact with one of my friends, and for several years I am trying to find that person. Can God tell me the phone number of my friend?

Thanks a lot.

"Frequency", "vibrations", "energy", and all similar words used in new age and OBE literature, has nothing to do with the same terms used in physical science. For someone with engineering background, this is confusing, and I have constantly to make efforts to remind myself that it is only metaphors and parables, used to convey an idea that is very difficult to describe in earthly terms.

Usually, in that kind of literature, you can freely substitute "energy" with "frequency" / "vibration" / "plane" / "spirit" / "dimension"/ "focus" / "density", and so on, and still get the same idea.

Actually, the frequency is equal 1 / t, where t is the period, or the time of one cycle of periodic function.

It does not make any sense to talk about frequency of the astral plane, because one cannot measure any of its parameters, or even define what is it that vibrates.

IMO, the word "energy" used in AD and MAP books, is just a metaphor describing the sensations in your body caused by focusing your attention on it. It is a known phenomenon in physiology.

Cheers,

DG.

Adrian,

Every time I open a topic, it opens with errors:

1. All graphics is corrupted, only placeholders are shown.
2. Personal profile links don't work (HTTP 404).

===== Edited Jan 15: Actually, the very first time I open IE and this web site, a topic opens OK. Any second and subsequent topics open with those errors mentioned above.
Edited again:        OK, it looks like the problem with openeing a topic is random. Sometimes, if I try to open the same topic after a while, it opens OK, but then try again, and it's with errors again...
Also, few times I tried to edit this topic, while it opened with errors, I got instead to the main page of the forum.

All other pages open OK.

Any ideas?

Another thing: what happened with local time seting? It was a nice feature...

Thanks,
Dmitri.

Hello,

Did anybody hear about Shane Hatfield and his book "The Amazing Out-of-Body Secret!"? The link is http://www.astral-projections.com/ . The web site promises havens, but it also looks like a scam from a guy who just wants to collect $20+ from gullible souls...

A search did not show any info about the guy.

Regards,
DG.

IMO, the book is not better then the CD. In fact, you don't need the book. All it contents can be summarized in one paragraph, which you can read on his website. The rest is repetitions and marketing babbles.

Regards,

Dmitri.

[monkey business]

Hi,

Regarding the "monkey business" and chance theory, there is some truth in it. The key word here is "some", especially relative to the subject of intelligent creations.

First, I think that the "monkey typist" analogy was used to bring the idea of the chance theory to people who are not good with numbers, and still use fingers, feet for linear measurement, and words like "small", "king", "jumbo" and so on for sizes. (Americans, please forgive me the pun).

If you look for more exact definitions, then you deal with statistics and its branches.

I will try to illustrate that it is still possible to create a Shakespeare work by using random chance. However, we will need to use a truly random generator, not hypothetical monkey, whose randomness characteristics are not too good.

Let's assume that:
1.   The work consists of 100000 characters.
2.   The random characters generator gives 1 character per second.

How much time it takes to make an intelligent piece of writing (let's call it "the book")?

The probability of first letter in the book is 1/30 (26 letters + 4 punctuation marks; no capitals!).
The probability of two letters to be a part of the book is 1/30 * 1/30 = 1/(30^2).
...

The probability of 100000 letters to be in order: 1 / (30 ^ 100000). It means that if we have 30^100000- characters size random sequence of letters, then there is a good chance to get our book ready (not considering the job of finding the sequence, which is secondary to our subject).

The time to produce such a sequence is 30 ^100000 seconds, which is approximately...

10^99994 years.

Well, this looks like more then a "jumbo" size number, considering that our universe exist only (according to mainstream official science) for less then 10^10 years. I just can't grasp this number, or find an analogy in real world. (Maybe it is "jumbo"^"king" number [] ?).

Incidentally, the speeding up the typing process million times, reduces the total time just... well, it almost doesn't.

So, even if the theory can be good, practically it looks impossible to make anything intelligent just by a chance.

Sincerely,

Dmitri.

The whole idea of "frequency" of planes is misleading. I believe this word was originally introduced by people who did not understand the meaning of the word, and then it took roots in occult literature. I suspect that happened mostly in the beginning of 20th century, when people tried to explain many things with recently discovered "fashionable" thing of electricity.

The definition of frequency is a number of oscillations, or periodic movements, of matter or energy per unit of time, usually per second. In physics, there are two processes that have property of frequency: sound waves, and electromagnetic waves (and its variants, like electric current). Roughly speaking, in case of sound waves, the frequency is a number of oscillations of air, or liquid or solid matter per second. For electromagnetic waves, it is a number of periodic changes of electromagnetic field per second.

When one talks of frequency, one should assume that it could be measured, usually in Herz. Another parameter of the periodic process is its amplitude. The frequency and the amplitude define any periodic process almost completely.

When one talks about frequency of Astral, or Mental planes, there is nothing to measure. Frequency of what? What is the value of it? There is no answer to these questions (at least at this time). Therefore, the use of this term in not appropriate. And indeed, in most cases the word "frequency" can be substituted by plane, level, dimension, and so on.

Just my 2 cents.

Dmitri.

Hi chill,

You can try these two methods:

1. Take several deep breaths.

2. Do several rapid steps staying on the same spot.

Regards,
Dmitri.

Regarding the meat eating, what about the stone-age hunters? According to Karek, it is not true, and those primitive people must be vegetarians. So, is it a big contradiction to known (presumably) facts here?

Regards,
Dmitri.

My friends,

English is bad, but help is on the way.

>>
>> The European Union commissioners have announced that an agreement
>> has been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for
>> European communications, rather than German, which was the other
>> possibility.
>>
>> As part of the negotiations, the British government conceded that
>> English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a
>> five-year phased plan for what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro
>> for short).
>>
>> In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c".
>>
>> Sertainly, sivil servants will resieve this news with joy.
>>
>> Also, the hard "c" will be replased with "k". Not only will this
>> klear up konfusion, but typewriters kan have one less letter.
>>
>> There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the
>> troublesome "ph" will be replaced by "f". This will make words like
>> "fotograf" 20 per sent shorter.
>>
>> In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be
>> expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are
>> possible.
>>
>> Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have
>> always ben a deterent to akurate speling.
>>
>> Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of silent "e"s in the languag
>> is disgrasful, and they would go.
>>
>> By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing
>> "th" by "z" and "w" by "v".
>>
>> During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords
>> kontaining "ou", and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer
>> kombinations of leters.
>>
>> Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted
>> in ze forst place.
>>

(All together shouting to Frank:)

Write a book!
Write a book!
Write a book!

Congratulations, Jouni!

So how much time did it take to get there? I mean, from the day you started practising the OBE?

Dmitri.

Hi,

From literature, I found that many, if not the most, OBE experts have OBEs since childhood, so it shouldn't be a problem.

Dmitri.

[Originally posted by koshka:]

quote:Originally posted by koshka:
I caught mention of a spot in the brain, the "angula gyra," which is reportedly a trip button for OBE ejection.  Hey, this is the ENQUIRER, but I'll sniff around anyway.  Research is reportedly from the "Geneva University Hospital" and commented about by the South Carolina psychologist, a man named "Hallowoll."

Hi,

It looks like there are many "OBE buttons" over there. Just look at Neil Slade's site about the amygdala... http://www.h2net.net/p/nslade/

Regards,
Dmitri.

Hi asstray85,

Yes, I used to think about it, mysteries of life, and origin of consciousness... After few seconds, I had kind of buzzing in my head. I was afraid if I continue, I would go nuts. It feels also like some kind of pressure, or analogous to mental wall that you are not allowed passing, and which holds the answers...

It was in my teenage years, mostly, when I had no idea about astral or OBE. I think this it what, partly, pushed me to study these things.

I did not do it lately (few years), so it would be interesting to try again.

Regards,
Dmitri.

About closing chakras.

There is another opinion about closing them (not mine, but from a very skillful psychic). Every time you focus you attention on closing the chakras, you are actually opening them more, because any action on them does just that. They will close by themselves if you stop paying attention to them, after a while.

Regards,
DG.

Eukaryote,

What were your results with interrupted sleep / 6 a.m. technique? It seems to be very effective for many people, including myself (50% success rate for me).

Good luck.

DG.

Yea, I was thinking about it. Just want to ask people first, may be somebody already tried it. After all, $20 is not a big deal, "in the name of science".

DG.

Hi guys,

Sounds familiar: I too have OBE with intervals from few days to two months in between. Can't figure out the reason for it. But it seems that when I practice extensively (like that 90-days OBE Program, which actually made a drought of 4 months in my OBEs), it adversely affects the frequency of OBE. Go figure...

Regards,
DG.

About the link "TX gal and trading bodies" that I mentioned above, here is the way to get it:
1. Click "links to related websites" on the main page. It will bring  you to another page.
2. Click on "Discussion Group" link, and you will see all those threads.

What I think about it? I think that it is possible, but also, in case of TX_gal,  it can be a fairy tale. People can be very imaginative.

By the way, Monro in one of his books describes the world in year 3000 where people use physical bodies almost as we are using clothes now.

Good luck,
DG.

Hi Patty,

In this life, the systematic approach usually works. At least it worked for me, so far. So I tried to use the same approach for OBE practice. But apparently the OBE is so much different from physical life that it requires different methods. By the way, the "spontaneity" can be part of the system. So when you say that you do what you feel is right at the moment, it actually can be quite appropriate.

Regards,
DG.

I have completed the "The Astral Dynamics Workbook,
90 Day OBE Program" By Brian Mercer from http://home.tower.net.au/~rsb/guides/90day/90day.htm , which is based on AD book.
I had trouble to do concentration exercises, but the rest was OK. During this 3-month period, I stopped having OBEs (which,  before I started this program,  were not of  the best quality,  to start with). They resumed few days after I finished the program. I didn't gain significantly from that program, except experiencing new senses of tactile imaging and "energy" flow.
For me, it looks like a systematic training prevents OBEs. Maybe it's too much pressure to succeed? I don't know.

Regards,
DG.