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#1
Something wonderfull has graced my knowledge that I wish to share with everyone out there having trouble at projecting.

It is quite simple but requires alot of patience.

It is not so much a "METHOD" to project, but "TRAINING" to asist in projection.

Just like any thing else you desire to get good at, training is the way to go, Bruce Lee wasn't born a great martial artist, he trained to become so.

Any way, give it a try and let me know:

*WEEK 1* - As per usual, begin with breathing exercises via the diaphram, stretch your body out and do what ever it is, that will make you comfortable. Lay flat on your back with a pillow under your knees and your arms by your sides, or on your chest. As you see fit.
Focus on shutting down each part of your body one by one.

.Feet.
.Shins.
.Legs.
.Waist.
.Chest.
.Arms.
.Forearms.
.Hands.
and finaly your head.

You can do this any way you desire to do so, ither visalize a light switch at the joints or energy manipulation, the choice is yours.
By this stage, if you were able to maintain focus on the task at hand, your body should be feeling rather heavy and fairly numb.
If not, try again 8)

Once you have finished, I need you to focus your mind into this ONE task.

CONVINCE yourself that you are realy lying down 6 inch's to the left of your actual location. Nothing more. This may take a while.  
Once it is done, dwell in this position (thank yourself for doing so, be happy) bring yourself back to centre and fall asleep.

Do this for ONE WEEK! EVERY NIGHT always to the left.

*WEEK 2* - Do EXACTLY the same, but to the right 6 inch's.
By this stage if you have been doing the training nightly, you should be very good at convincing yourself of a diferent location.  You may find after this second week, you are having very emotional dreams.  I've woke crying several times for unknown reasons.  If you can Project from a dream, this is a great state to aknowledge from.
Projection may even happen of it's own accord.
But I cannot stress enough, how vital it is to do NIGHTLY!
Put in the hard yards...

*WEEK 3* - This is where it starts getting funky.
Again follow the same procedure that you have been doing for the last fortnight, but this time convince yourself, that you are 6 inch's ABOVE your body. (This in itself has been mentioned as a method of projection, but most people do not have the visualization skills to just do it "like that") This time however, it will be easy to do, since you have been training for 2 weeks at CONVINCING yourself.
Again, projection might happen by itself, DO NOT try and force it. If vibrations occur do not do anything but feel at ease with them (comfortable that they are there).  The best thing to do is be happy with the results, relocate yourself in your body again, roll over and fall asleep.

*WEEK 4* - Once again just the same procedure as the past 3 weeks, it is IMPERATIVE that you use the same relaxation procedure for the ENTIRE duration, DO NOT relax differently in week 1, to week 2, and so on, you are TRAINING you body to do something specifically.
Once at the heavy relaxed state. CONVINCE yourself that you are 6 inch's BELOW your body.  This sounds a bit strange since your bed or floor will most likley be there, forget about it. You are floating in a void, and you can move where you wish.
Once 6 inch's below your body begin to CONVINCE yourself that you are swaying left to right like a pendulum. (This is where week 1 and 2 come in helpfull) Just relocate 6 inch's left. back to centre. 6 inch's right. back to centre, untill it becomes a fluid swing.  Your training is paying off, pull yourself back into your body. Fall asleep.

*FINAL WEEK* - This is it, by now, without even realizing it, you have trained yourself unbelievable visualization skills. 8) Patience has payed off.
Get yourself swinging like a pendulum again only this time, begin to do laps around your body, like so.
6 inch's above, 6 inch's right, 6 inch's below, 6 inch's left. repeat.
This will kick the vibrations in. Now you are ready to project.
Once the vibrations are fully going for it use what ever method to get out of the body you desire. DO NOT use a technique UNTIL the vibrations are happening.  Rope is good, so is the sit up method.
Most of the time you will probley find you project half way through doing laps around your body anyway. In which case give yourself a pat on the back. You have trained yourself to project in 5 weeks.

Now I do not guarentee in will take everyone 5 weeks, some will find they can do it after week 2. But if you can, finish the training.
DO NOT just stop there.  It will be worth it 8)
Most of the trouble will be in WEEK 1, if by the end of week one, you still can't convince yourself you are to the left of your body. Repeat week one untill you CAN do so, then procede.  Again PATIENCE people.  Some methods take people years to learn, 5 weeks of patience is a god send in comparison.  GOOD LUCK, let me know how you go.
I am more then happy to answer questions...
By the way, this method was developed by NOSTRADAMUS.  Just in case you wondered.

Peace and love to you all..



Edited by - dragon on 12 April 2002  11:10:47
#2
There are alot of people talking about, "Shifting your focus" to your brow...
Where is your focus to begin with? to then be able to shift it?

Do I just roll my eyes, and LOOK? without thought?
Do I talk myself through the process..

Im becoming very lost here.  
Thanks for your patience and I realy do thank everybody for your
help.

DB

#3
Me again,

Im sorry if big posts bother people, tell me if they do and I'll shut up 8)

*This is about the farthest I think I have ever gotten*
About one and a half years ago. (When I FIRST started OBE practise)
I was doing a technique to achieve trance, the "vibrations" came. and I knew it was them. I felt my heart pulse, it rose to (what I believed to be) an unbelievable speed. I really started to worry and started to panic quite badly.

At this point I woke after a very deep sinking feeling.

I'm not asking you what this was, or wether it was close. Because I believe I already know the answer.

I hadn't practised OBE for 2 years since then.

CHEERS




#4
WOW! I am very impressed with the response from all you people. *CHEERS*

The last board I was on had a month between each post!

Well, as an update.  I tried the "FRANK" technique last night.
(Does it have a name?) and I found the results to be very strange.

I focused on my brow for around 5 mins, and for the length of that 5 mins I can't recall anything. I woke up 2-3 times during the night and I found that after waking, if I focused on that point again.
I fell asleep instantly.

And to top it off, ever since I got up this morning, I've had an unbelievable pain (almost a tightness) between my eyes.
Been awake now 7 hrs and it is just begining to fade.

I'd like to share somthing else with you also.  I'll post it in a different post, to make it easy.

Thanks again,

"He who walks in the light of dark, yet only the timeless see."
Dragon

#5
quote:
You know when you are doing it right, because there will come an instant when suddenly you thought you heard something; or maybe you thought you detected some kind of shadow or movement. At which point the eyes will try to look. Which will have the effect of immediately halting the process. So you will have to start again. This may happen quite a number of times at first, but at least you will know you are on the right track!


Greetings to All.

I have been researching as much as possible on OBE's over the last six months with no results of any kind...

I've read everything there is to read and I am one of those poor souls, who arm themselves with 65 techniques before I goto bed.

I fear that I have drowned my brain with knowledge and it just isn't practical... I have been drawn close to calling it quits, and forever giving up on what I can honestly say is one of the most important aspects of my life.

I stumbled on this BBS accidently and found this post, Im interested in what you have had to say FRANK and I am going to give your method a shot.

Could you clear something up for me before I fail miserabley?

Once the imagery appears or the sounds begin to distract me. Do I?
A) ignore them and continue
B) pay attention to them?

Paying attention to them usually leads me to fall asleep or slip into a dream.  But you say that you were focusing your attention on the wolf's face when it had appeared.. what am I doing wrong?

I can roll my eyes, I have no great visulization skills. All I know is that I will accept what will be presented to me, should a higher power grant me that gift.

Good luck to every one out there, trying to do this without a real clue..

Reading alot about this thing doesn't realy help in my case, I bet im not the only one.

"Meet me on the echo side" - Dragon