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instead of going from waking to vibrations, go from dreaming to vibrations.

some people find that to be much easier, I hear. and the one time I got out, that's how I did it.

so practice lucid dreaming if you don't already, they go hand in hand you know. and if you when you realize your dreaming, just will yourself to wake up, but only to the sleep paralysis state, where your senses are cutoff. then try.

when I did it, I still could sense my "dream body" and I thought I'd try and move that, and it worked.

Alright, need some opinions...

I was confidently experimenting with vibrational state, round 4am this morning. usually I get too excited and nervous and come to my senses, but I was determined this morning. calm, no fear. I was however, having trouble exiting the body. so I tried the imagine being somewhere else = teleporting there method. and I was having more like lucid dream experiences that way, flying around my house, the neighborhood... I was dissapointed with the lack of vividness in it.. it was cool I guess but I craved more realness. kept coming back to the body, retrying. same thing, flying around... not as vivid as I want. well at some point I come back to the body, and try sitting up as exit technique, and boy was I in for a shock...

I sat up and immediately notice this gypsy type woman sitting in the bed with me... the lights are on, and there are about 4-5 other strange looking people in the room all watching me.. and this excrement is VERY REAL... I screamed a blood curdling screech, jumped out of the bed and ran over and stood with my back to the wall, just freaking the bonk out... then I say, "ok, its ok, its ok" cause I'm thinking this is my first encounter with some astral people... and I don't want to waste it in fear... so one of them starts to approach me, and Boom, Back in the body... head on the pillow, nobody there. heart racing. wtf.

any opinions? don't know if it was dream. I suspect/hope it was a genuine encounter, the only trouble is it was not at all what I would expect from the astral plane.

quitting altogether will benefit your mind. I was a recreational everyday pothead for like 7 years.. I quit 2 months ago with the hopes that it would sharpen my focus and clean up my awareness in general. a month later I had a obe. I posted about it recently. that experience was very encouraging as far as staying off mind dulling substances. weed is a great tool I believe, when you need to get a different perspective, but chronic use is definitely not helping your chances. no blockages in the conduit! keep it clean.

edit: sorry I noticed you decided to quit while I was typing this. ha! stick with it dude its worth it!! if you got to the vibrations while smoking, then you surely can get farther while clean.

do you lucid dream? mine happened when I came out of dream into waking, but my body wasn't awake yet. so then it felt like I still felt my "dream body" and I moved that one out of the physical. it was sortof a lucky fluke though, cause I've never come out of a dream into phase state before that.

My first obe was 4 years ago.  I was about to go to the mall, and my friend was moving my car into his garage.  I laid down, not sure what happened but i stood up and everything was different.  I started to get a bad feeling.  I checked my pulse and I had one, I remember I kept checking it.  My mom called, and I didn't know how to speak or answer questions.  I heard my own voice in my head, giving me the answers to each thing she asked or said, which was extremely freaky!  My friend is flipping out of course because I am.  I keep walking around.  I sit down on the couch, he gets me something to drink.  I'm able to drink it but I'm afraid of what's in it. (btw, i had been smoking but I had been for awhile and nothing like this has ever happened).  I started to see the room in thin lines and pixels, kind of like an etch a sketch, the lines were moving up and down.  I would talk a lot of what I saw to my friend, and then it seems like I would go quiet for like 20 minutes.  It felt like 7-8 hours of things happening.  I kept trying to fall asleep and wake up completely, but I couldn't wake up.  I remember looking at him and his face would change.  I posted this somewhere else but I remember kind of coming out of it.  I was hallucinating, I kept getting caught in large spiderwebs and I looked and felt ridiculous trying to get out of them lol.  During this, a voice was created in my head and it stayed with me for about a year and it kinda just "left" on it's own.  It kept telling me to hurt people and myself.  I didn't hurt anyone but me. 

I have Bipolar Disorder and I don't know if maybe this has anything to do with it?  My doctor now says I have psychosis, but I don't believe I do.  I was really into crystals and stones at the time and some of them, especially moldavite, were very powerful and I could see things or believe I could do things others couldn't.  When I got away from them, I was ok.  I think that maybe I didn't know how to control them.  Now I have them all out again, and hopefully I can get a better handle on them

Thanks for reading

Heather

wow. who knows what that was!! but you weren't out of your body right? everything was just weird and you had different brain processes going? sounds more like you were tripping, but surely you weren't having a drug reaction, because those symptoms wouldn't have lasted consistently for 7 hours.

thats certainly not bipolar disorder symptoms either. but anyways, I think that "condition" is widely misdiagnosed. alot like ADD. Its scary to think how we are at the mercy of our own biological processes. our perceptions are such a complex chemical reaction! anything goes wrong at any point, and much weirdness is bound to occur. you had a brain glitch! don't know what to make of the voice in your head though.

check this out... I was wanting to throw this in too: after I had my OBE, I layed there in awe, right? just trying to be still and think about what just happened. ok and I noticed this clicking coming from underneath my head. very consistent, rhythmic, faint, clicking. similar to morse code. for a couple minutes I listened. then ok, slowly I turned and pressed my ear to the pillow. it was amplified, like it was coming from inside the pillow! I thought, ok. bugs. must be bugs. gross. but it was just so continuous and rhythmic. didn't stop till I pulled the pillow to the side, and listened to the mattress. nothing. then checked the pillow again. nothing.

ok then cut to like 3 weeks later. I was sleepin on a couch one night, and had brief vibration state encounter. (I got nervous and it went away) well once my body senses came back I layed there, and the clicking starts. its right by my left ear now. exact same sound as couple weeks before. except its like coming from the comforter thats pulled over my head. I lean my head over and mash it close like I had with the pillow and its amplified again like before.

so it sounds dumb, but has anybody had this happen? i was totally awake for these, and I have no explanation. and it happened after phase state. not bugs, man, I know it. maybe smart bugs....

thanks for all the responses! I am very happy to have feedback. like I said, I'm pretty much obsessed with making this happen again, now that I know it's real.

then again, what is real? how do you define real? (sound familiar? I've seen the matrix way to many times) I certainly am not so bullheaded to dismiss other possibilities. I am a servant of truth. I try to be, anyhow! I perhaps really just want it to be real. by real I mean of course that the world I witness outside the phys. body is the same as the one as seen inside the phys. body.

in other words I'm greedy for omniscience. I'll settle for finite knowledge though, long as it seems like its omniscience.

at any rate, no truth could take away from the sheer interest it sparks in me. ooooohhh yeah.

A month ago I sat up out of my body. first time for me. haven't done it again since. I still can't believe its real, and I'm spending most of my waking time either telling people about it or studying about it, or doing other related mind work. I have a good bit of responsibilities during the day so its tough, but pretty much all my free time goes to this. I'm just super excited and happy that I have personal evidence of the non-physical world. I also feel relieved about the after death situation now. I'm just all around stoked. my hope is for everyone to experience it, and I'm working on achieving it again. I wanna be part of a community of projectors, and this seemed like a good one. so heres what happened/how I did it.

so it was just this average night, I was sleeping in my bed, it was like 4am. I remember I had come out of a dream, and i was just looking at darkness, basically awake looking at the back of my eyelids. very conscious that I was laying in my bed. I couldn't feel any body sensations though. and then it occurred to me to make an attempt at pulling out of my body. just whimsical thought, but the vibrations kicked in, and I got excited, cause I knew that was the ticket. those vibrations are uncomfortable like nails on chalkboard except the inside of my body! anyways I just like, sat up real quick, in a jerk, pulling out. I mean I really felt the separation happen, like 2 magnets being pulled apart. then I was like whoaahh! it worked!! I could see my foot in the bed, like glowing white a little bit, and the air was hazy and dark bluish. oh and my crotch was still stuck in place. I can remember trying pull it out but it felt locked in and I was worried about "ripping it out." weird feeling. then all the sudden I snapped back into my body.

I've been doin a little happy dance ever since.