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#1
So I am not entirely sure what percentage of you agree with me but I have found willpower to be a very key ingredient to building up to a successful exit.  Unfortunately these days with credit cards cellphones and vending machines people like myself are running very low on wilpower since it just isn't necessary for normal waking life.  

So I read an article in the newspaper a few days ago...

To build willpower you can do very simple exercises such as using your other hand to write with, and seeing how long you can get yourself to hold your breath for (don't worry it's humanly impossible to hold your breath long enough to do yourself harm unless ur using some sort of apparatus i.e. duct tape I don't reccomend though [xx(] .


THE REASON WILLPOWER EXERCISES ARE NECESSARY TO BUILD WILLPOWER:
Willpower is apparently not learned best by simply trying to invoke it for normal activities (ex. deciding not to watch some television show that you normally do) because of what they refer to as the TRANSFER OF WILLPOWER.  This means that willpower spent depriving yourself of one item will not be available to deprive yourself or in our common case to endow ourselves with OBEs.

let me know if this doesnt make sense
#2
Hey-
So I have been with this girl for a year now and have noticed that she has very frequent headaches.  She said that she has had them for the past seven years, and she even went to the doctor this past month and they couldn't figure out whats wrong with her.  She has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder (means shes overall kind of depressed and changes moods frequently). Last month she has blacked out on a few separate occasions also.  Tonight we were laying on the couch watching a movie having a really really nice time and then before anyone knew what happened she had a very very powerful headache- so strong that she had me take her car home (she had picked me up from my place earlier that night)because she didnt think she would be able to drive when I had to leave).  

This really really sounds to me like some sort of powerful psychic attacks.  I feel like some sort of neg found that shes easy to feed off of for energy and so it will change her moods so that emotions are running through her which provide more usable energy for the negs to feed off of.. It's just a theory though.

Does anyone have any suggestions?  It was really really hard to see her feel so horrible tonight!!! Is there anything I can do to maybe ward off what seems like psychic attacks? Is there anything I can have her do?

The worst part is maybe I'm the crazy one here but I almost feel like the negs are influencing her actual feelings because tonight I tried to get her to turn the all lights on in the room because I heard that negs dont like light but when I asked her to she said "No!  Light is bad!... it hurts right now!"  She is such an intelligent girl aside from the fact that I love her I feel realy bad that this has to happen to her!

Everything I've said is 100% true... can somebody please help ??
#3
Hey-
In all of your astral experiences has anyone out there either contacted a higher power or witnessed enlightenment/revelations in some form that would lead them to beleive that humans have a fated life planned out for them or are our decisions based upon free will?

This has always been perplexing to me and I just can't figure it out so I was thinking maybe someone has contacted a higher power that does have it figured out?
#4
hey- the past month i have been desparately trying to leave my body behind and am trying to figure out why i cannot move past the powerful vibrations and rapid heart beat stage...which leads me to wonder if energy body work is crucial to get out of my body?

Also, on a side note, can someone with much experience and a powerful understanding of energies do anything to affect physical matter? Such as move a physical object?

Again, I appreciate any replies!
#5
Hey- I am so close to astral projection but something keeps getting in my way-
I lay on my back in my bed in a deep relaxed state after stretching and then i do a little bit of tactile imaging and then start to use various exit techniques such as awareness bouncing...but right when i feel i am on the brink of an exit i feel the need to SWALLOW because some saliva has built up that needs to be swallowed...
Does anyone else have this problem??
If anyone can help me out on solving this it would be greatly appreciated!
#6
there is definite relevance here and who am I to know this isn't really happening

but it needs to be said,
the truth is not in decieving yourself

you would just lead yourselves down paths to nowhere if you had built your beliefs on deceptions
#7
I might be wrong but I believe that sinking feelings (especially when not purposely invoked) are actually an indicator of your body slipping deeper towards sleep, or into a deeper relaxed state.  

This would make sense too, as many hypnosis scripts and in general relaxing exercises call for yourself visualizing walking down steps etc. This whether you know it or not generates that same sinking feeling (with a tracer-like effect which is like what you describe to be ur body floating), edging you towards relaxation.

my $.02
#8
that would be great to look at-
but oof- is there any way to see them without being a yahoo member?
#9
Me?  A psychic vampire?  What would lead you to beleive that I could be one?  And how could I be one unwittingly?

If it's true I wish I woulda known earlier because I shelled out a lot for a white gold necklace for her birthday when silver is quite a bit cheaper...
#10
You guys have some really interesting ideas!
I had no idea about the hand massage thing and no idea about the immunity to painkillers...I'm having her try both approaches.

It's kind of interesting I posted here looking for advice on how to fend off negs and I get a load of earthly, medical advice- I don't know a whole lot about negs but should I take the help I'm getting as a hint that negs really arent much of a problem in everyday life?
#11
Smoking is bad with birth control?  Is this tobacco or marijuana you are referring to?  She doesnt smoke anything, I guess I'm just interested to hear that.

And I would agree that our bodies are amazingly affected by what we consume.  For instance whenever I would rub my nose skin would flake off...I told my dermatologist and he said i had a thaimin defficiency...I was like go figure!?  Hearing something as unsuspected as this kindof makes one want to convert to completely natural foods only.

On a side note she just started taking multi-vitamins.  Anyways I'm not incredibly sure what direction our relationship is headed but I suppose that is another story for another forum.
#12
Well I'm glad that the general consensus seems to be that her problems are not neg-related.  This is good because I really don't know a whole lot about negs.  I really should get her to try the acupuncture as it's always intrigued me and it'd be cool if someone I knew actually tried it.  Maybe this really does just have more to do with her developing, but if it does, then she is the ultimate form of the bad side effects of developing hormones.  I will definitely look into that feverfew as I have always been an advocate of medicinal herbs.  
If anyone has any sort of input still I have been appreciating all of the thought!
#13
Hey-
I really appreciate all the replies so quickly!  From the looks of it, it could be a lot of things.  Yea she drinks quite a bit of coffee.....and yea she's on birth control pills...The doctors told her that it probably wouldnt be a tumor or anything because she gets headaches in different spots.  I'm going to try to get her to drink more water and less coffee, as I'm sure it would help at least something if not her headaches.  The massaging her hand like that is very intriguing, and something I'm going to have to try...same with the rose quartz.  

For some reason though I just can't shake the feeling that shes got neg attachments...Throughout highschool this girl has had really tough times and even felt suicidal at one point or another.  Apparently she has been getting better over the course of the year past but I still feel like something never did fit quite right...

Again, I really appreciate the suggestions but I don't know anyone in real life that AP's so is there any other way of maybe testing for attachments?
#14
ben-
when mr bruce is describing awareness hands he leaves the term more open for interpretation- you dont have to have the feeling of actual hands passing through you it is all just different methods of being aware of different parts of your body. it sounds like you can do this just fine so you should have no problem...but if there is any part on your body that you cannot feel with your awareness it helps to physically scratch this part of your body lightly so that the feeling resonates after you scratch it and therefore centers your awareness here...
hope this helps
#15
About those flashes of light-

They are what Mr Bruce refers to as the strobe effect. Accept it and embrace it!  "The strobe effect marks the beginning of the energetic creation of the vision scree, which forms the visual backdrop that holds the vision stream.  The vision stream is the flood of vivid mind's eye visions seen by an energy clairvoyant."
#16
Hey Echo-
I'm sorry about all these people giving you flack about the way you express yourself...I mean they all understand what you are saying but I guess it is only human nature to belittle others when there is opportunity...hang in there man, I think its kind of a cool way to write.  Somehow I get the feeling that you aren't very old...it's good to see younger people taking part in conversation here.
#17
I really appreciate the replies, and after a little more reading out of Astral Dynamics (if you dont have it yet you really have to get it its amazing) i have determined that energy work is pretty important to OBEs if you dont have the forseeable natural ability for easy exit, and
beavis- i made one of those psi wheels a few years ago and they do indeed work but
neo- i do indeed beleive that yoda is wrong on this one simply because i think along the lines of 'if you want to drive a bigger car you need a bigger engine'

and i went to a members page where he talks about the possibility of levitating while standing on top of a ki disc and it sounds kindof interesting but i have yet to find some strong evidence that a [physical] feat such as this is really indeed possible?
#18
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Exit problems
November 25, 2003, 07:55:48
hey- according to the book Astral Dynamics, it sounds like your biggest problem is not getting enough sleep at night so if you can, I would suggest that you try to sleep more and therefore will not have as much of an urge to at night... also if you are laying down in your bed to try to project then your body, wether you realize it or not, is trying to fall asleep because it recognizes your bed... you should try deeply relaxing in a comfortable chair with good posture so that none of your extremities ie your head feel the need to lean anywhere other than they already are as your body goes limp with deep relaxation... hope this helps
#19
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Separation?
November 24, 2003, 21:23:45
beavis- when you say 'aggressively look at every detail of the place you want to project to,' do you mean you should do this beforehand and memorize it so you can have your eyes closed while trying to exit or do you actually leave your eyes open during the exit of your physical body??
#20
Nay i appreciate the quick advice!
the only problem with swallowing is as i am trying to place my awareness elsewhere than my body i find that every time i swallow it is as if i pull my awareness right back into it, therefore hindering the pressure i am putting on my projectable double to initiate exit... which leads me to wonder if it works to lay on your stomach instead of your back because i would be ok with laying on my stomach and drooling onto my pillow cause its for a better cause?