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#1
I know I am very close to an OOBE... But being as close as I am, it's still a rather large hurdle getting a successful exit.  When I'm doing ROPE, after all the chakra, relaxing, falling excercises, and I'm nearing OOBE.. I seem to feel my astral body lifting (my hands, chest).. But when I realize that I failed this time, I realize it was actually my phsyical body that was lifting.  It's strange.. I feel like I'm really leaving my body, but I'm not.. Maybe a result of insufficient relaxation excercising?

Also, I'm wondering if I SHOULD be doing the falling technique (imagining (not visualizing, of course) yourself on an elevator.. when you exhale, you slowely go down a little bit more, and on inhale, you pause).  It helps me get vibrations.. but it's weird how I go down to get vibrations, then climb up (ROPE) to exit.. it doesn't make much sense.

All help is appreciated.  I'm trying my best to get an OOBE :]
#2
I've heard of a half-dozen ways to achieve Astral Projection... so far I tried Brainwave Generator and Deep Mind 4... That sort of worked.. My body vibrated and my eyes rolled back as if I were entering a dream.. But I didn't actually get an OBE.  I also listened to an mp3 file about how to Astral Project.  It was from the site.  It's the one where you're supposed to walk around your kitchen, noticing things with new eyes.  Then you meditate on it, and in your mind, you feel yourself walking around the room.  Then after a few days of doing it, you'll feel your body vibrate, and hear a pop sound, and you'll be out of your body.  I don't know if it will work...

WILL ANYONE THAT KNOWS HOW TO ASTRAL PROJECT AN OBE HELP ME OUT?  I want to very much know how this really works, and how I can do it for real.. a way that works.  Please?
#3
You see, I've been using "Deep Mind 4 (or 5, whatever it is)" in Brain Wave Generator.  I was told that it can help achieve Astral Projection.  However, I listened to it for 30 minutes while my eyes were closed, with earphones on and nothing.  Is there something that I'm doing wrong?  The left speaker on my headphones don't work, so could that be the problem?  Do I need to have my eyes closed?  Does everything else have to be quiet?  Should I be thinking about nothing but concentrating on the sound of the brainwaves?

Help is appreciated! I desire to achieve this Astral Projection state!
#4
The powerful 'AAAUMMM' could have been the buzzing noise that some usually get when the vibrations are getting powerful..?
#5
You have a unique goal. Talking with your astral guide?
#6
Whoa.. Freaky stuff.  Yeah, I believe it has something to do with you hating fear, that brings it back.  Maybe.. Otherwise.. Wow, that's creepy.  Sorry, I have no clue how to help other than trying to face the fear head on.. Overcome it.
#7
My vibrations are more of a.. fidgety, fuzzy feeling.  Well, my eyes fidget.. It just doesn't seem the same as washing machine vibrations.  I'm not sure.
#8
I see.  I was focusing way too much on the exit techniques..  I'll think about it.  9 months?  Wow... I thought I was so close, too.  I know that I am close, because there's a point when you feel your hands are floating above your body, and your heart beats extremely hard... But I've tried to project about 12 times in 3 days.  Each time I get closer.. some more closer than others.  I was hoping it would only take a week.. Maybe it will. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones. I better be.. No, infact, I will be.  Confidence is my grump :]
#9
Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Nearly there...
December 29, 2003, 23:31:55
Yes, you are nearly there.  It sounds like you're goot at meditation and relaxing.  I think you should wait until you're in more of a trance, and you're brain is in Theta (groggy/tired).. Then try an exit technique.  This works best for me before I go to bed, and when I wake up, as I am still tired at both times.
#10
That's a little too much thinking and imagining for my taste.  I like it simple, like floating up, or using the ROPE.
#11
Maybe you should try.. without the weed.  Projecting takes concentration, and weed doesn't let you concentrate correctly.  And the reason you didn't project was either A) The weed, or B) You don't have enough experience to project.

I didn't read all of your post.. I'm in a rush, but it sounds like you're pretty close, as I am.  Good luck :]
#12
You could use the ROPE technique, the FLOATING technique.. Uhm... There's a bunch of 'em.  Let me describe the rope technique to you:
Now, you feel the vibrations!  But what to do?  AH, THE ROPE TECHNIQUE.  This will free your astral body from your phsyical body, and triggering an OBE (out of body experience).  What you do is use your imaginary body to grab on to an imaginary rope (do NOT visualize the rope.  It takes too much work and distracts you from the separation.. Just feel the rope and your muscles pulling on it, though they aren't really).  You will keep climbing the rope in your mind.  Keep in mind, try to imagine your body VERY heavy.  Make sure that you're not climbing the rope with ease.  At this time, after you've been climbing for a very brief while (30 seconds-2 minutes), you'll deffinitly feel a big force pulling on you.  This is very intimidating, as you start to realize that your heart is beating extremely hard (it's not really, it's your chakras (spelling?)).  HOWEVER, if you wan't an OBE, you MUST keep climbing the ROPE.  Nothing can hurt you while projecting.. You cannot die.  It's just an illusion that seems scary, but once used to it, is a great experience.  Now, soon, as you climb ROPE, you'll feel and hear a pop sound.. and you'll be out of your body.  Most of the time, you'll see your body laying on the bed/chair, yet you're floating above it. (I'm not kidding.. it's an amazing kind of dream)

It's from a paragraph I wrote a little while earlier.  Hope it helps.
#13
I get better results if I'm tired, right?  Because today, when I woke up, I went back to sleep.  I decided to try to Project an OBE in my tired state.  I did the ROPE technique (I was already in a body trance) and I came closer than I ever did before.  I guess my brain was in Theta.  I came so close, but something made me open my eyes.  I forgot what, though.
#14
So, I'm guessing, I can use brainwave generator's "Sleep Inducting" preset to lower my brain level to Theta (that's what it does), then I'll be able to OBE.  I'm going to try that now.  I'll see if it works.
#15
Thank you, all. You all inspired me.  I've tried to OBE or Project 7 times in 2 days.. I figured I could OBE by now.. But it seems a lot of people take a month or two.  That's kind of annoying, but I'm willing to overcome that.  I've tried the ROPE method, and I had trouble concentrating completely on pulling myself.  Next time I try (which will be in about 10 minutes), I'll try to relax more, until I feel heavy and paralyzed... Then I'll use that "float out of body" thing.  Hope it works!  And thanks again.  You're time is greatly appreciated, and maybe, if I become experienced, I'll be able to do the same for other people.
#16
Your sig is cool!  [8D]

You're a bit more experienced than I, but I'm starting to feel vibes by just laying down lately... I sure hope I can OBE soon.  I've tried and practiced over 6 times.

That's cool, though.. I sort of had the sinking feeling, but not enough for me to think about it much.
#17
Wow.. Hawk.  You were very helpful!  Thank you very much.  I've been reading the Treatises and I'm ditching Brainwave Generator.  I think the ROPE technique will help me achieve an OBE... But for now, I'll practice entering a trance.  Any other pointers is greatly appreciated!  Again, thank you very much!
#18
But the headphone/Brainwave Generator does give Astral Projection sessions?
#19
I haven't had an OBE, either.  I think I'm doing something wrong.  I use BrainWave Generator and Deep Mind 5.. and I just relax.  But I just listened to an audio that doesn't use BrainWave Generator, only memory and relaxation and time...  I wish I could figure this out.
#20
Thanks, Sephy :]