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#1
Welcome to Astral Chat! / aries
December 30, 2003, 12:34:01
i dont want to start an angry discussion but i feel this must be said; Aries, you seem to resembles those "hale-bopp people" more and
more with every link you post and every statement you make.
before you critisize people for joining cults, realise that the
things you are reading and so willingly believing are so borderline
fanatic/cultist that i cant even tell which are you?
fanatic or cultist?
#2
as i read the posts on this website and many others, i see many people (or what seems to be the majority) trying to open their third
eye. if you are one of those then this might be of some interest or
help to you....

I have not opened my third eye (at least not by any methods given by
anybody, so far as i know)yet i experience kundalini symptoms, i have
clairvoyant dreams, i feel energy such as magnetic waves and static (build up throught my body), I get twitches, feelings of body shifting or being moved in strange ways, you name it, i'm experiencing it.
aside from this, there have been moments where all of a sudden every-
thing becomes so crystal clear and i feel like i woke up into a dream
like surrounding, my body turns numb and i feel... the word that comes to mind is "awake". I often wake up to hundreds of thoughts at once, followed by a feeling of forgetting something important, and the feeling that something important just happened.
also, from the first time i meditated to the most recent, i have noticed tremendous development. the first time i meditated, it lasted
almost an hour but it seriously only felt like 10 minutes max.
since then i've meditated about 10 times, no more than that though.
the difference now is that within moments of my beggining to concentrate, my entire body tingles first, then it turns into waves of electricty or "energy", by about a couple of minutes or less then 5 minutes, i feel like my body is about to explode with energy, i feellike i can punch through brick walls, its quite amazing.
other things that i experience is while i concentrate on an object long enought (about 1 minute, now. before it was more), everything
around that object beggins to vanish into a white void or mist.

thats all for now, if anybody would like to comment or have had any
experiences similair to mine then please let me know, thanks.
#3
the fact that you listen to the advice of a guide who is trying to
decieve you at one point or another, examplifies that your common
sense may be missing?
no offense.
#4
when i learned it im not sure what it was but i read some chi breathing techniques and such, but i do it in my own sorta way.
sometimes i stop breathing alltogether while doing that stuff
so i dont know if you can count that part chi breathing?
#5
Welcome to Astral Chat! / aries
December 31, 2003, 11:03:21
well now that we're clear on the fact that theres no animosity between us , i think we can have some interesting debates and
conversations.
i aint offended by other peoples belief, but i am greatly inclined
to help people or try to sway people to my point of view. sometimes
to verbal but i promised to cut down on that already.
yeah happy new year,
hopefully this year can bring about some good changes overall.
#6
i've had two experiences of sleep paralysis.
in the first one, i woke up facing a wall in my bedroom unable to
feel my body, i looked around and one of my rock n roll posters
(which had a band of 4 people)seemed to pulsate and flow with colours
intertwined and mixed, then all the band members became skeletons
and i fell back asleep,
not much long after i woke up again paralyzed.
It occured to me that i couldnt move my body so i told myself "f***
this, i have total control of myself" and then the ability to move
came back at once.
#7
alright, alright, i'll tone it down for all you sensitive people out there.
you got a point about me denying you your freewill but reality is in
the way you alone percieve it, and you thinking i have any way of
abusing your freewill are asked at this point to explain?
in any case, sure i'll enroll into more productive conversation.
that was the first thing i did, i'm still waiting for replies.

i'd like to reply to your latest post but i rather not as i tend to
state things in a certain way.

#8
alright here's the last of it...
where do i say "Spectraldragon's work and/or research is trash"?
i think you mis understood. I think saying "f**k you " and "your an
a**hole" is trash talk, read more carefully (just like taking your
own advice)
i dont claim to be a know it all, i was taught that complete
confidence in ones thoughts and actions brings about results,
so ofcourse i wound budge from what i "believe" in.
oh my, oh no... you got offended.
why dont you take a reality check, buddy.
your so wrapped up in your thoughts and dreams that a simple formation of certain words can cause you to have such outbursts.
who should you be upset with...
me, the one who "offended"  you?
or you, for allowing yourself to be emotionally swayed by a couple
of typed words?
#9
listen up for a moment...
your words have no substance.
i challenge you to show me how you have come to your conclusions,
and you reply by saying you have come to your conclusions by way of
"YEARS OF thought, research, searching, and trying things out".
thanks for the vague answer. see what i mean?
i ask a question, you cant give an answer so you direct this to a more personal note, focussing more on how i offend you etc.

administrators moderators whoever, if the way i talk and go about
conversing with others; if you dont agree, say something to me.
but honestly speaking, i am guilty of nothing other than saying
what i feel.
no where have i written fuckk you or you are an moron. somethinhg
like that is nothing but trash talk.
i have stated my feelings towards the gullable and they in turn
become angry. bonk the people that cant read a message without
responding in an offended manner. (not to confuse with "offensive")
#10
Welcome to Astral Chat! / aries
December 30, 2003, 16:23:35
"The Rep's come from the Sirius star, in Orions belt I believe.
Anyways they say that they are the originall owners of Earth and this is there planet, the Grey's are there "slave" race. They are on Earth harboring the Earths natural Magnetic energys. They live underground in some of the Governments Military bases, such as the Dulce base.
I am not sure as to what the Government and the Rep's plan to do about Nibiru, although I think they will try to destroy it.
I dont wish to argue about religion but as far as God goes I believe that he created the universe and the races and what not but I dont think he really plays a Direct part in our role. I think that we did not originate on Earth, but rather we came to Earth. Thats just my personal opinion based on the facts I have read about.
I will try and find a link about Nibiru, I saw one the other day I want to find for you..."

can you not see the similarities between what you wrote and that
of what the ufo cults teach?
a lot of what you have said above, are sourced from cult channelers
in the first place.

i aint trying to offend you, you got a good sense of freewill unlike
alot of other people here, but i am answering your question for you.
#11
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling the Reptoids
December 30, 2003, 16:13:10
you want to hear the real truth?

the real truth is humankind does not like to take responsibility,
humankind likes to have all the facts and info given to them
rather than finding it out by way of experience,
humankind is at war with itself because humankind does not understand
itself.
humankind is also animal cruelty.
the truth is what you have experienced, truth is the way you feel,
regardless of what you feel.
truth is knowing that nothing is as it seems.
truth is the most simple way of life, and also the most advanced.
#12
to james and no leaf:
no leaf... i am not trying to make you believe one thing or another,
i'm stating my opinions and thoughts like the rest of you, but
because i am passionate about attaining the truth. i tend to be
quite stubborn in my views because i live in a world where my own
government wants to enslave me and take away my freewill. my stubborn
ways are means of survival.
james...
you wrote quite a bit so i owe it to you to give you detailed reply.

"It seems though that you are already 100% convinced that what you believe is the absolute truth, despite the fact you have so far only substantiated of your theories by the beliefs of only 1 person - Billy Meier - who, rightly or wrongly, has been discredited in just the same way as you are trying to discredit those who do not follow his theories."

i am not trying to discredit anyone who isnt asking for it.
There are those who are so obviously submerged in their need to
fulfill a delusional fantasy, that i cant sit around and say nothing.
You want my theories?
i think that the way ants are to humans, we are to higher forms of
evolved conciousness. yes it is possible that we cannot grasp this and that due to our limited understanding, but that doesnt mean some
alien your channeling is there to help.
Im trying to tell you that you do not need a guide (where as you say
that i'm "forcing" my beliefs on you people) for a guide that is
more "advanced" and "wise" than you, that in itself is the perfect
scenario for a manipulation of a person for a specific task or
self serving reason. it is an open invitation to have your freewill
taken away. seriously, if i wanted to tell you what to believe, i
would write "you must believe in....."
i wont beat around the bush.

"As for it being provable that the Pleiadian stars are too young to support life - sorry, not provable. Astronomers are able to tell if a star has any orbiting bodies by either the "wobble" method, where the gravitational pull of a planet will show a wobble in the star's movement, or the "wink" method, where a planet causes a drop in the stars measured output by passing in front of it. Beyond that, as Hubble does not have the resolution to detect distant planets (maybey its replacement will, I don't know), and they cannot be properly detected by radio telescopes, we really don't know what might exist in the way of planets in this region of space. The only thing that was dispoved regarding the Pleiades stars was the existance of the Photon belt or Manasic Ring that was said to be a source of life in the region."
please tell me which scientists, and by what means did they discover
this?
no response to the latter question will prove your talking out your butt, let us see.

"a little bit about what I do know regarding my guide, the one you have so vehemently denounced as being some kind of delusion."
i did not say your guide is a delusion, i'm saying you are a
delusional person for failing to accomplish certain things by your
own self person. yuo have a delusion that you are unable to figure
out everything on your own.

" I believe that there is a sentient energy that infuses all that exists, an energy that could be described as God, that I feel to describe as "the Creator"".
We are all one, but ego has caused us to look at mankind as individuals.
By the way, a god is a ruler who assumes a position of worship. God
is a man made concept, Creator or creation on the otherhand is a much
more appropriate concept, for the fact that it exhibits total freedom, unlike beliefs in "god".

"Babylonkiller, do you accept the idea that Mother Earth, the Goddess of Nature is a real spirit - a living entity? I do. I have no doubt of this as over a year ago she paid me a visit in the form of the Green Lady. If you're not familiar with this term, look it up - you'll find references to her in English folk lore, and literature on Natural Magic. Anyway, this spirit did pay me a visit in our world, and encouraged me to then visit her in the astral. I achieved this a few times, and have met her face to face on a few occasions."
yes i accept the idea that mother nature is an entity but not a
goddess. For a goddess implies female, earth is neither. earth is a
downscale of Creation, it gives and gives and does not ask for things
in return, like say Christianity's God. as for your encounter, i wont
say its false or true, i simply ask why do you feel the need to tell
people of yur encounter, then reassure me by giving me a referance
pertaining to "folklore". then you reassure me that you have had
this encounter. this is the behaviour of someone who is trying to
find people to graify his ego by corroboration.

"This plagued me for a while, and I just about gave it all up for a bad joke when I was contacted by another member of this forum, who I didn't know at the time, a man who is highly experienced at being able to see that which is beyond our realm, and a man who was graced by the presence of the Green Lady herself. He was able to confirm for me, as have other since who have also met her, that this being, the spirit of our own Earth, is very much real."
how can you validate this person as truly having contact with the
"green lady"?
once again you find someone who agree's with your view in order to
satisfy your mind.
I'm not saying there is no spirit of the earth, but this green lady
sounsd no different than the easter bunny. although if you care to
explain it to me with some fact and plausible testimony than i am
more tha willing to have a conversation about the green lady.

"This has nothing to do with my free will or your thoughts about of my lack thereof. I am free to do what I wish. I am free to take my guide's council, or turn away and walk my own path. Nobody has told me that I have to do anything. As my guide has said to me in my moments of lethargy - I am the one who will grow old while I'm procrastinating, not her. I have followed the desires of the Spirit of Nature, not because I have to, but because of the very deep love that I have for her. She told me when we first met - "Do not worship me, just love me." I have met her "avatar", her personification. Her presence was completely overwhelming. No human has ever had the kind of sheer presence, radiance and love that I saw in this woman."
yes, you are free to do what you wish, it seems you are an expert
in freely giving away your freedom. I aint telling you what to do,
i never have (try to quote me as saying "You have to do this...
you must believe my view..."
i only state my opinions and slander (at times) those who are so
obviously non-sensical that it is a must that i spit venom.

"I have followed the desires of the Spirit of Nature, not because I have to, but because of the very deep love that I have for her."
The desire of nature does not include displaying ego over synthetically created electronic apparatus (your computer), anything
man made whatever it's purpose is artificial (not occuring naturally
within nature)and thus no the "Desire of nature".

there is a pattern in your words that you do not see. the pattern is
isolation from mass, and intergrtion with like minded.
you are searching for people to agree with you and constantly speak
of people who proved this, or told you this in a dream etc.
heresay and nothing more.

"I'm also not out for any kind of self gratification or ego trip here. Just because she has appeared to me in no way makes me special, as many others have also met the Green Lady. My ego has no place in my spiritual or self development. Ego is a mask that blinds and deafens us to the lessons we are here to learn"
yet your ego is so obviously present in all your posts.

"I spent a lot of time looking at this situation from both the positive and the negative. Reading the opinions of others on the internet who have claimed to have channeled these aliens, reading books in the library, but more importantly listening to my own heart and being guided by my own intuition. I tested it to see if it is true and I tested it to see if it is false. My tests came back that for me it is true"
so what tests have you done? once again, it's all heresay with you.
You are not figuring out anything by yourself. you are going to books
and posts on the internet for info. by yourself means take the topic
at hand and go through it thoroughly, where as (it seems like) you
hear what is said, you see if it agrees with your opinion, and then
you judge wether or not it is correct. this is f**ked up behaviour.

"Whatever your beliefs are, however they may clash with mine or those of others here, I would ask you to please refrain from stating so categorically that I or anyone else here is so absolutely wrong, or that I am lying. Remember, please - truth is subjective. You might not be religious in any way, but such statements do make you sound like a close minded fanatic. Talk of killing and destroying because of your beliefs also sounds the words of a closed minded fanatic. What would you say to us if we were not to listen to you and wish to continue on this path? Would you then say that you will destroy us too for our beliefs?

i understand you dont appreciate me calling you a liar, so i take it
back, but i will say that cetain posts by certain people so clearlly
shows a pattern of lies, unprovable claims, and just overall in ability to answer questions with verafiable answers. sure, i can
see how you may view me as nothing more than a fanatic, so i'll
let you judge for yourself on that. Once again, i talk of killing
those who threaten my freedom and freewill. I speak in this way
because i do not realistically think that any person who is in
power today (that is greedy and powerhungry)will resign without
force, so force is needed to counter it. i display my aggravation
and death threats not to you, but to the establishment. but if you
are one who agrees with the establishment, than why should i
descriminate?
down with you and the establishment you follow or aid. you are
either helping to enslave or fighting against the enslavers. sitting
on your comp tryng to find theories that apeal to you is not taking
action against the tyrants. hope that clears up any questions on my
my reason for "anger" or whatever.

and no, i will not threaten to destroy you or kill you. my opinions
are clearly stated, you have for one reason or another chosen to
make me look like i a thought tyrant. Yes i am quite aggresive but
when worlds people and nature is on the line, aggression must be
present.

the fact is this, you say i am telling you what is and is not true.
you say i am telling you what to think.
when really i am saying what i feel.
if you also believe in personal opinion, and would have understood
that replying to my message is no neccasary.
but your ego has driven you to fulfill your sense of importance by
writng your multi angled post, then getting applause from oyur
friend.
if you cannot see this than thats that i guess.

believe what you will but dont quote me as saying things that i have
never said.
i never told you what to do or not to do, i've said the things you
believe presently are wrong as far as i see for you dont seem to
have a descent explanation of your beliefs and what grounds that they
have been asserted?

in respect to freewill, i will continue to state my opinions and
thoughts as i see fit. I will not call anybody liar or wrong, but
i will let them know when they are not right, or not telling the
truth.
#13
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling common sense
December 30, 2003, 13:57:55
your not ranting at all, you are telling us what you feel.
i can understand your feelings about this situation. i have tried to
talk raationally to some people but all i get back is vivid tales of
self gratification.
i share your concern, someone should boot these sheep herding cultists out the back door. I'm pretty mellow but some of these
people spew such lies that it is sickening.
i hope you dont view me as being on that list, i know i may come of
a little strong.
#14
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling the Reptoids
December 30, 2003, 13:49:41
hey No_leaf_clover,
i guess the fact that nobody but you caught on to the joke is a
testament to the fact of how few see the truth and others miss it
even though it is righ tunder their noses.
this can also be applied as a metaphor for mankind...
we are so pre occupied with our own thoughts and beliefs, that we
fail to see the real truth.
#15
just incase i was being a little too offensive, i dont mean to put a
angry tone on things, it's my passion gettting out of hand.
but anyway...
"if there is no void but only complete chaos, how do I think I can understand it?"
What are you saying my friend?
are you stating that you believe in "your" theory or that you dont
believe neither of ours and are just merly "testing your findings
for hopes of finding valid conclusion"?

"My guide/guardian protects me from my own human inabilities and helps me on my paths. She does not take away my free will. My guide/guardian protects me from my own human inabilities and helps me on my paths. She does not take away my free will. If I tell her "no" sharply enough she will back away.
with this statement i find quite a few contradictions...
first, you state that your guide protects you from your own "human
inabilities" which shows that you have a self esteem problem, which isin turn thanks to the ego (which is selfserving).
"she does not take away my freewill". correct, "she" does'nt. You are
the one who is giving it up by thinking and believing that you need
an outside force to show you the way. once again this is a classic
example of the way humankind are today... lazy and looking for the
easy answer (waiting for people to tell them all the answers rather
that coming to the conclusins themselves and attaining the experience
needed to further evolve and perfect).
you say "If I tell her "no" sharply enough she will back away"
once again you refer to a man or woman. you believe in identifying
and stating humans as male and female, you have not taught yourself to look at the world from a non judmental or categorized point of view. and the fact that yu have to say no "sharply enough" shows
that some force is needed, which means there is resistance. That
means something which is "guiding" you, that resists from ceasing
to guide you; would fall into the category of manipulation of free
will.

"If there is no ego in enlightenment, why do you think that when someone becomes part of a solar diety they cause a lot of damage while still on earth?"
once again you prove that you aknowledge the belief in "Deity".
and how did you come to this conclusion of a solar diety?
tell me this without refering to something a religeous or faith
oriented person has statd before, or ideas and philosophies already
brought to light. in other words, if you really logically thought
about and processed what you have stated, then you will be able
to tell me how you by yourself reached this certainty.

"but our ego is what defines "us." It is impossible to be rid of ego while there is life and free will. If there is no ego, then why did I feel an overbearing presence while passing an angel in my astral travels? If there is no ego then there should be no presence"
i am not saying people do not have ego (obviously you read,But lack
the ability to process this info in a logical manner)for people do
have ego, i am saying that creation Does not have ego for ego is a
self serving tool. Creation is Giving, unconditional love, the total
opposite of the things ego attracts to.
and to say that it is impossible to rid ourselves of ego while there
is still life and freewill..
Once again, Life is the result of Creation ; Creation itself came
into being by way of freewill driven by creative "thought" or "idea".
this alone tells us that your above statement just just that, a
statement. not a fact, not even a plausible theory.
and your talk about an angel... the angel is a christian symbol or
manifestaion.
If you do your research you will find that Christianity is Blood
stained with the crimson of the innocent to say the least.
Many things dont even corroborate  and often contradict themselves
so dont bother coming in on this christian angle. christianity has
done nothing but lock the shackle on our spirits.

"We are all a small part of the larger. Have you never noticed how everyone in a crowd will always act the same way? This is the human consciousness, and it is there for us to support each other. We are not truly independant of each other on the level we believe we are, but independance is still there. Hence the reason ego was created in the first place".
from reading your post i can see that you are mixing and inter-
mingling ideas, your focus is not on one direct topic, but rather
you jump from your theory of god to believing in angels.
i have met people like you many times before, you absorb all the
things you hear that satisfy your EGO and thus stick to doing so for
reasons of self gratification. It is alright to assume but not when
you cannot logically come to that same answer.
first you talk about what you believe than you say what "we" believe,
as if your speaking for the world.
this post has become very blurred, lets stick to telling each other
our theories and support it with logical imput, rather than assumptions and repeats of what you heard at zetatalk or nonsense along such lines.
and last but not least....
"Your little belief of buddhist emptiness is not your own original idea either. I was trying to show you this. There is no void or emptiness or we would not exist."
I am not a buddhist, but i agree with many things the B's say
because i have actually taken the time (weeks and months) contemplating their teachings and philosophy and seeing what
conclusion i come to.
you on the other hand suck in this Christian and imaginative garbage
all too readily, you are what i was before i began to think clear.
you are a fanatic as far as i can tell and are in need of people
who will corroborate your theories.
come back and talk about the "origins of life" and "galactic history"
and the creation of the universe etc. when you have deeper and more
meaningfull insight.
#16
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Pleiadian Workshop
December 30, 2003, 01:19:12
for the last time "there are no such thing as pleadians".
they are called plejarans.
They themselves claim no contact to anybosy on earth since 1996.

and no, meier was not proved a fraud, that was a misinformation
dissemination project.
And Barbara Marciniak is nothing but a delusional depraved person.
james s you are the victim of your own lacking in freewill due to the
need to Believe in a higher entity as being your god.

i have a feeling your ignorance is all i will recieve so i'll stop
post for this topic at this point, but then again thats just my
assumption, prove me wrong and speak with logic and supporting facts.
#17
james s:
"when you come off sounding like a crazed religious fanatic out on some kind of holy crusade, do you really expect us to want to listen to this kind of visciousness and hatred?"
to clear it up for anyone, i am not religeous; i believe in creation.
Creation as in our universe. Nowhere have i stated belief in any
diety or god, therfore i am on no holy crusade.
i speak in sudden ferocity because i want to let Fuzzwig (and his
"supposed reptilian contacts, or guides" that i want to destroy
them becuase i asume they wont go down without force, i also know
from experience and clairvoyance that at least 1 reptile type race
is responisble for the mind enslavement of the masses by way of
mind manipulating technology.
Reptilian=enslavement
i desire freewill.
i have said it before, there are no pleadians. they are plejarans.
anyone who states otherwise obviously is misinformed. for those who
state having contact with them, if tey really did than they would
have known that the plejarans are what they are called. They have not
been to earth since 1996.

about you being wrong, i didnt finish the sentence. you are wrong
because you have no plaedian guide. you are simply lying. if you want
me to bring proof that you are lying, well i just told you above.
It is not i who am stuck on some religeous trip, i dont belive in
anything other than creation. You on the other hand follow "guides"
who are either your imagination or malevolant beings who want to
manipulate you and thus messing with your free will.
i too once believed in canneling and guides, but careful thought and
logic has shown me that these are no more than the games of 3rd
dimension beings still held back by having such egos, and thoughts
of self gratification. wether it be by way of finding somebody to
agree with your unique belief to satisfy your ego or you daydream about being a celebrity, to satisfy yet again your ego.
My advice to you is to visit WWW.billymeier.com
thats a good place to start.
#18
i take back what i said about you being on the right path.
the fact that you have a "guide" demonstrates your inability
to except and maintain freewil.
also you say "At that point I believe that our god would be a part of an atom again of a much larger diety. The cycle never ends. There is no void, only chaos."
1. You state a belief in a diety. Creation is not a diety, it is
the will of creative thought.
2. to say there is no void is to say you know what is there, which
implies you have been there.
3."because he IS our existence". this shows you still view the world
in a male/female objective. Creation is not male or female, that is
a human concept, or alien aswell.
4."but you need Ego to both create or destroy, otherwise you would sit around in buddhaland doing nothing and forever be in Nirvanna"
creation does not have ego, it is above ego. ego is the creation
of something that creation put into existance. How do you figure i'll
be sitting in buddha land etc?
5."Again, there is no void, only chaos, as a void would suggest that the buddhist are correct in assuming everything is nothing. If everything is nothing, then there is also no meaning, and if there is no meaning, then...you finish it. Buddha created this saying to teach, not for people to take it litterally". all you are doing is
stating opinions and philosophies that other people have said.
you are restricting yourself to man made belief systems that
condradict the very laws of Creation and nature. you said so your self that the above you stated was an assumption by the buddhists,
not fact.
6."Everything is growing and evolving, but not according to genetics. It is according to spiritual existence. Our bodies do not have souls, they are a part of a larger soul. We are re-born in order to grow, and thus evolve."
first of we do have individual souls , but they are energy broken off
from the original force that created us within itself. Spiritual
existance is the path of Creation. For there is nothing more
spiritual than creation. Existance itself is thanks in whole to
creation. "We are reborn in order to grow and thus evolve". thats
pretty weak, i state my thoughts with descriptive and backed- up
insight and forsight. but all you do is say what i say in a simpler
way.
i think you have yet to understand what the meaning of life is and
what true freedom is. good luck.
#19
Finally somebody who is looking at the world with an open mind.
spectraldragon, dont take this the wrong way (i dont mean to sound like a know it all)but you propably dont realize how close you are
to the truth about our universe.
Maybe if i give you some opinions you can come to more
conclusions.
1. The universe (creation)is the largest body of energy within itself
(the universe grows within and outward at the same time) and was
created within the void by way of a single thought (directive, desire etc).
2. "god" is not, and cannot be the way christianity aswell as many other faiths who share similair views depict it. It is said that "god" is our creator and he has given us the gift of free will.
yet at the same time, we will be punished if we do not obey gods
commandments, and rewarded if we obey. this clearly is a manipulation
of a beings spiritual integrity and thus conflicts with freewill. A god that needs to be worshipped shows ego, ego cannot be a part of
the creator for creation is unconditional love and is to wise and
advanced to have self serving thoughts. Creation only feeds and
creates, on and on within itself, constantly trying to evolve to
point of perfection, Absolute Absolutum.
3. yes the universe is alive, it is everything that is within itself.
therefore it is you, me, the dead leaves on the ground. OUtside this
universe are many other universes just as is ours, and all universes
remain within the void.
4. the universe is constantly growing, everything is evolving according to it's own genetic make-up and then follows a life of
growth in the form of a given species (human, plant, stone). we are
evolving so that we may become one with the source. so each life we
live is meant for us to learn as so we may not make the same mistake
and so that we may live according to the laws of creation. Each time
we die, we carry the info to the next life (akashic memory or whatever you wan to call it). So then in our new life we are smarter
as in we follow the laws of creation to a little greater degree.

i hope the above is of use to you, good luck in finding the truth[:)]
#20
This is quite common. But the difference is that depending on how
you decide to judge this occurance (floating feeling in the hands),
certain results will follow.
for instance...
one might meditate and experience their limbs going numb (respect-
ivly your hands)and then come to the conclusion that this is
"normal" and they leave it at that.
a person who thinks very clearly will have the same occurance but
a different conclusion. The clear-thinking individual will under-
stand that "It"(He or She)does not feel anything in their hands
for the fact that one has no hands, no body, he or she is spirit
within The largest body of spiritual enrgy, within itself (the universe, or "creation")therefore, the person understands the
ultimate truth, that we are one and that all we need to do is but
think a thought and accompany that thought with total sincerity.
hope this helped.
remember, dont depend on others for guidance, you already have the
ability for that within yourself.
#21
Welcome to Metaphysics! / question/help/im new
December 29, 2003, 12:28:15
first, follow whatever technique that is working for you. it's not
so much the technique, rather than the degree of focus and concentration. i would say once you have your "ball", imagine it
expanding from your hands outwards so that the ball grows in size.
when it is as big as say a car like a volkswagen jetta, then picture
filling the whole globe with your energy (your passion, desire, love,
hate, strong emotional feelings) pile it and put it into the globe.
then when your globe is totally packed and brimming with energy, squish it into the size of a pea (or something about the size of no
more than a golf ball(really, it is up to you how big to have it, for
if it is not up to you, than you are denying yourself FREEWILL.
hope this helped
#22
"Everything can be destroyed"-Nayru

Then you obviously have taken the time to include Creation into your
theory?
are you saying Creation (itself, in it's infinite expanse within
itself)is able to be destroyed?
this cannot be, please explain your theory some more.
thanks.
#23
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling the Reptoids
December 29, 2003, 02:53:49
xandar your a downright liar and i'll put my life on that.
#24
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Pleiadian Workshop
December 29, 2003, 02:44:42
hey truth seeker,
There are no such things as Plaedians.
Have you no knowledge of the Billy Meier case?
The planets in the pleadies star cluster are un inhabitable at the
present time, the planets are too young, this is a provable
fact. Rather, the Plejarans (Play-yar-ree-ens)exist in a dimension
that is fractions of a second ahead or away from. No plejarans have
any contact what so ever with anybody on earth other than billy meier
and in 1996 the plejarans left earth in order to show all of the
frauds to the world. the plejarans made it known that thatis their
name, and that they bear no contact with any human other than meier,
and that the reptilians, greys, and one other group are un aware of
the plejarans existance.
all channelers most likely get info from ashtar inwhich it is for the
purpose of keeping you under control.
#25
dont you people know your history?
where the child of the serpent has been, there to has been nothing
but deciet and misery. All of you who "channel" these beings are foolish at best and are giving yourselves to the will of the one
being channeled. The reptiles Try to manipulate us with mind
disturbing and often detroying technology. these heartless scum
deserve swift death, the time when revelution and change and
presentation of total truth is soon to come, then we will see
the snake for what it truly is. those who side with these serpents
and let them tell you this and that or for those who speak to the "zeta's" and learn from them and absord their info, to you i say... you are denying yourself the freedom you were given.
do not listen and believe, rather question and prove or disprove, so
that you yourself may reach the final conclusion.
as for fuzziwig: tell your reptile friends and the "pleadians" that i
Am the hunter of ari an and sheti peoples. Tell your reptile guides
or pleadian guides that i want to kill them. I am aware of reptilian
activity and hot spots in my city, so targeting the reptilians is not
difficult. tell them they cannot fool me, and tell them my brother and i will kill them all. do you want my adress?
i fight for the freewill of allkind, and the serpent people are thieves of freedom, think well and you will come to the same conclusion as i. I swear to kill all ashtar sheran, zeta, reptilian
people or beings. those who want to save their world and home, share
your thoughts with me. thanks.

james s you are wrong