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I don't know if it's a direct result from regularly practicing obe induction methods or from taking an active interest in my dreams, but I'm gaining more precognitive ability as a result.

As a few examples, I correctly determined how much a friend was in debt and I was able to determine how much more was needed to successfully bid on a major purchase by intuitively figuring out what the current highest bid was.

So although I don't get as many obes as I would like, I'm gaining ground in other types extrasensory abilities.  []

When I find I haven't been practicing my obes for a while & then restart the practicing weeks or months later, I know I'm making progress when my dreams appear a certain way.

For instance, when I start to get lucidity in my dreams or dream about the ability to move objects, I know I'm getting closer to the objective of getting obes.  

It's a good way for me to track my progress easily.

I suppose I could have inquired about this privately but I'm sure others would be interested too.  I noticed that you respond to requests for healing with both diagnosis & sending healing energy.

I was wondering if you were using obes to accomplish this.

I was wondering if anyone has experimented with using the astral form to manipulate objects in the physical realm.  I heard you could move small objects, affect electrical appliances or computers.

My favourite is an apophyllite worn around the thymus area.  I would like to try herkimer diamond sometime.

I've come to the realization that no matter what technique you use, the best success in obeing comes when you have lots of time to relax & you have no worries.

quote:Some people are born with certain "powers", but I assure you, they worked hard to acheive the levels of awareness and ability they now have in previous lives

That's an intriguing concept.  It didn't occur to me to think of it that way.

Chris,
by meditation, I mean an inward focusing.  I find it doesn't help me with obes.

Also i agree with you about the revealing of info.  It's pointless to reveal details when you know the person has not reached a certain level of understanding.  I come across fakes who claim they know what they're talking about but really don't. That's my opinion.

I don't like meditation much because it does tend to keep you in the body.

You've hit it right on the nail Chris.  Focus and balance between the 2 bodies is absolutely key!

Thank you all.

Last night I had another lucid dream.  Normally this would be the highlight of the evening but something more unusual occurred.  I had a dream that was a continuation of the story I had in another dream a few years ago.  Very strange but I'll take it.

Although I'm not familiar with DMT, I personally don't think taking substances internally help with controlling the experience whatever that might be.  And if you can't achieve control, I don't think it's worthwhile.

I have experimented with external stimuli & although the same could be said of some possible loss of control with it, at least it can easily be removed.

With an internal substance, who knows how long the effects will linger in your system.  It's a chance you're taking.

I think it could have just about now.  It has a hypnotic effect.  I had to turn away from it.  It's not convenient for me at this very moment to go off obeing. []

Certainly if it's something personal or something I'm interested in.  I don't know if they are a coincidence.  I personally don't like the sensation of flying.

It's like that with pets too but no one really pays attention to a pet looking at something in space.

I like projecting into the short-term future in RTZ to determine the outcome of certain events.

In between sleep periods to catch the vibes if I'm lucky.  
I'm expecting them to come on soon any night now.  Especially after having 3 consecutive nights of vivid or lucid dreams with obe themes.

I haven't been able to obe from a dream, lucid or not.  Last night or rather around 3:00 a.m. I practiced my obe induction.  I did get lucid in a dream & decided to try to obe from it.  What I got was a spiraling out of control feeling like being swept in a tornado-like funnel sensation.  This has happened before.  Then I had a false awakening.  I think from now on, I'll just concentrate on extending lucidity because it seems to always be wasteful for me trying to convert it into an obe.

I don't know about projecting one's will onto others using magic but the practice of obe methods seems to give one the advantage in the RTZ.  IMO, I think the recepient becomes more receptive to a practicing ober's telepathy.  This is not to force in any way the recipient to give the practicing ober what they want but to be more aware of their desire.  The decision is still in the hands of the recipient receiving the telepathic thought.  Since there is no intentional manipulation of the recipient's thoughts per se, there would be no karmic consequences.

Last night was the 2nd night experimenting with my new obe method using magnets.  Had a little difficulty concentrating on the blackness behind the eyelids this time.  But the good news is that I had another vivid dream about obeing plus I gained some lucidity.

This method could be workable for me.  I discovered that by placing 2 magnets a few inches apart on my forehead allowed me to extend my focus on the blackness behind my eyelids effortlessly.

I would not suggest placing one on the 3rd eye region.  When I did this there tended to be a more likelihood of attracting NEGs for some reason.

Thanks for mentioning the magnets.  I haven't used my static magnets in a while.  Not that I used them for obes before.

But last night, I used my static magnets & practiced inducing an obe at the same time.  The results were impressive.  I did not get a conscious obe but I had a vivid dream about projecting & woke up within another dream remembering the projection.  Fortunately, when I woke up for real, I remembered everything.

This is the fastest progress I have made so far.  I will continue experimenting this way & see what happens.  It may be the ideal method for myself being quite busy most of the time & not really having the time to properly practice longer preparation methods.

I forgot about my pyramid method until I read this post.  I use to place a small glass pyramid under my bed to assist in projecting.  Maybe I'll experiment with the method again.  [8D]

quote:I mean, I'd sacrifice myself for someone else, but I have this meanstreak about me...

We're all made up of good & evil. I suspect very few can be all good like Mother Theresa or Ghandi. I like having the mix better.  It serves me better.

quote:Having no pattern means it is harder for evil beings to figure me out

That's good advice.