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i dont believe it, this morning i decided to have ago at having an obe and i havn't tried in a long time probably 4-5 months! i simply just have not had the time however i gave it ago however i've never really tried it in the morning before so what came next was completly unexpected. I had been drifting in and out of sleep for about an hour and decided to have ago with the rope tech. so i pulled and after about 20 seconds i was getting very noticeable energy movements particularly in my head, then they would stop for a few seconds then they would come back getting stronger and stronger still mainly in my head howvere suddenly i stopped pulling. i thought i heard my brother say my name "David, is that you there" and with out a second thought i replied "what?" and guess what ........ nobody else was in the room lol it was jst astral noises.

i think what shocked me the most was the ease at the progress i was making with the rope and also that i reached a new stage in my obe progression with the astral noises.  

so yeah thats my pre obe close but still not quite a full willfully induced conscious exit.

just thought i'd post a little AP i had whilst in Japan, i havent actually been trying for quite a while now and this just seemed like it was worth noting as i'v only had about 4 short OBES. Any way since im from the uk the time difference from here to Japan is 9 hours and im geussing thats the reason for the OBE (the mucked up sleep cycle). I simply went to bed and woke up with vibes the it felt like some on pulled me out of my bed by my foot? I then floated about for a bit try to wake my brother who was in the bed next to me then i snapped back in.
My point to the post is to recommend  people that screwing with you'r sleeping pattern works! If you'r not having success i strongly suggest this!
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This seemsto remind me of an account by Robert Monroe in  Far Journeys where he describes a boy who would come along and sit on his back. I also believe this boy was fair haired and fairly young, he also descirbes him having rubbery skin that would strectch if he tried to pull the boy off of his back. However what your experiancing could be completely different however it just seemed to be very similair (its in chapter ten called inteligent animals)
hope that helped bye  *duckblink*

personally im finding it great    im on day 6 and have had great results already! my dream journal now contains 11 dreams two short LD'S and my energy work seems to be progressing nicely. i was just wondering how others are finding it.  

this is basically a tech by William Bhulman and for me it brought almost immediate results here i 'll give the technique and one of my succesful obes whic occured from it.

tech: either before you go to sleep at night or early in the morning say 4 - 5 AM begin to visualise a common place (i pick my living room) then go around the room as if you were actually there seeing from the fist person. then in turn feel the objects around you i.e sofa texture, carpet etc really get absorbed in it. Eventually you'll fall asleep and wake up to the vibrations, loud ringing noise or you may just be floating.

now heres my first experiance of it:
in the night i was trying Buhlmans technique (explained above) but couldn't concentrate so i woke at about 5 AM  and tried again eventually i fell asleep. i was startled awake by the vibrations and my non-physical head began to slide out om physical. thats the only way i can describe it, so i rolled to my right but was turning very slow so i tried rolling left. this completely shocked me i was frictionless it was amazingly smooth! Then my head hit the wall which slightly surprised me because as my head hit it the inside of my head was buzzing quite strongly (sort of like when you hit your funny bone hard but with out any pain) Then i floated through the wall onto my staircase, i was about to ask for vision but was snapped back to my body.
This was my fist succes with this technique and i really reccomend it to anyone whos finding OBE hard. it took me about 6 attempts to get results! the visulisation really isn't that hard really as long as you make the effort and maintain concentration with in ti untill you fall asleep it should work. I'd like to hear from any one who tries it or already has thnx
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hi this is a qestion to any projecters out there,when i do the rope tech i get build up around my the side of my heart. this "build up" feels like energy building up after about a minute or two of pulling i find it hard to keep my breathing from going ragged. the feeling that does this is hard to explain all i can describe it as is energy that builds and makes a fluttering sensation. however whenever i get it to build alot the ragged breathing comes in i then notice it for a second or two stop climbing i try to start agian but after about 30 seconds all the energy sensations fade.
i know that if i could keep the climbing action going without being distracted i could get the energy feeling to build untill it "Snaps"
At which point the vibrations would kick in and i would seperate.
its hard to explain what  i mean by snaps but its as if the tension in the energy build up gets too great and then has to give in. I know this will happen because ive done it before.
what i need is is a method to stop the breathing becoming ragged and distracting me if any one has any suggestions i would greatly appreciate[] or is it one of those things that trial and error will over come by me trying and trying again.... bye[]

i was wondering does any one know where you can get the gateway series for download other than P2P programs such as kazaa,lime wire etc. i was just wondering because it would take me ages to save the money to buy them, even though i will buy them eventualy[^]
BYE!!!!!!!![]

hay smooth do try it a night in bed because recently i started trying OBE atempts during the day sitting up in a chair. this has given me the best results yet and it stops me falling asleep as you stated, i suggest you give it ago.[]

YES!!

i have taken another step, i got past the step i previously mentioned. the vertigo dizzy feeling moved into my head and my heart chakara opened and sarted beating rapidly!!
No consious exit but im getting closer![]

[] hi if you go to amazon.co.uk i believe you can already order it, not pre-order but actualy order it. (as i have done) however it says it will take 4-6 weeks to come. I hope that helps[^] bye

hi, i've just tried this out and i've got to admit it's pretty good. i used it for about half an hour and i actualy found myself conciously snoring. it put me in to mind awake body asleep reasonable easily so well done. also the wobble sound, im not entirely sure what that is but i did find it helpful to concentrate on the rising and lowering sound. it seemed to travle upwards on the left and down on the right, it was like it was doing a clockwise route around my head if that makes senses[]
any way well done mate for giving us this!!![]