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everybody is getting it wrong yesterday was 6/6/2006 The only true date was 6/6/0006  And we didnt even know what 6 was back then (wasnt even around either).  If either god or satan makes an apperance, we humans arnt going to know about it.

I didnt mean to sound as if I was being totally strict to the christian point of view for the end.  Wheather it be a natural disaster, neuclear war, a spiritual awakening, or a religious comeback that will end us, its gonna happen. I just wanted to know what you guys thought about human(s) being able to do somthing about it before its too late, maybe even stop the whole thing.  And also if there were any phopacies/predictions made by people of any or no faith to say so.

I often wonder how much of a role god and jesus is gonna play in the next 'apocalypse' (if there will be one).   What if god and jesus are tired of fighting for us and is going ot let us fend for ourselves.  I guess my biggest question is: Is there a prophacy or any documentation or predictions about a human savior that will stop the end and finaly make us see our mistakes?

    And then again what if there dosnt have to be a prophecy, what if its just a matter of sombody(or a group of people) making a choice to save us all.  Can a human really convince god to give us enough time to get rid of old Luci and change our ways?

   I know some of you dont beleive in god, or the whole end of the world thing, but if you have any thoughts on this as if it were going ot happen, id be glad to hear it.  The mroe views, the better.

The only thing I do to stay in a dream, is when I feel myself wake up, I just say no, like I say it in my head ( as a thought within the dream).

I dont mean to argue, but what you beleive to be true, may not be.  I beleive life is based on perspective where the 'truth' can never be sorted out fully. Therefore from your persepective karma exists because like you said, youve had personal experience with it, where as I, have looked for karma and have tested it many times and nothing came of it.   Im not saying that karma dosnt exist, im sure it does from your perspective, but from mine and probaly others it dosnt.  And its been my expierence that when dealing with metaphysical stuff, beleif is very powerful.  But is it so powerful that you can break/bend the rules?  (im just trying to get everyone thinking)

wouldnt such debts only apply to the physical dimension?  Why would a higher plane of existance care about what you did here (unless youre a christian, in which god cares) but if you dont beleive in karma or what have you would the rules still apply to you?

Cryokenesis dosnt exist, only Thermokenesis.  Cold does not exist, it cant be measured.  Temperature is the amount of heat in the air.  Only heat exists.  Therefore in order to freeze somthing, you must take away its heat(or kenetic energy) rather than imagine a freeze beam or somthing.  This is atleast why i think most people cant do it.  I think that forms of psycokenesis must abide by the rules of pysics.  Try to imagine yourself pulling the heat out of a drop of water and see what happens.

Thats somthing really funny about the universe...its all based on perspective.  

The truth is never really true, and you will never find the truth.  Abraham, you read the muslim bible and live by it, correct?  Well that bible was interpreted by a man.  Its like translating japanease to english, translate what you can, and fill in the rest so that it makes sense.  That is only one of my points.  Next, IF the bible has not been tainted by the mind of man, then its comming strait from god.  So youre living your life from close to god's perspective on how things are and should be.  Now, im sure god has a better perspective than us, but id rather see things for myself and use the bible as loose guidlines.  This is where our stupid 'experiences' come in and your 'truth' goes out.  Cause once you start to see the world for yourself, from your own perspective, all you have is what you see and feel.   Most people choose to go bye the bible, or laws, or some kind of religion to tell them how their life should be, i refuse to.  God gave me that choice, he realizes that his perspective isnt right for everyone.  This is just MY perspective on things, your universe could be very differnt from mine.

NOTE: And because sombody beleives somthing differnt from you, dosnt make them wrong, they just look wrong to you.

another exercise to tap into universal energy is to tap into the earth's energy, which renews itself natrually.

Go out side(i recomend a comfortable day, so your not too hot or too cold, and pick somwhere quiet)

Sit down and close your eyes

take some deep breaths and relax

after a few minutes of quieting your mind, start to imagine roots comming out of your body(maybe from your central chakra at the base of your spine, i just do it from my body) and going into the ground.

you can imagine these roots going deep as you want(i dont think it matters though)

once you feel your roots are deep enough, start to imagine energy coming from the earth into your roots, and traveling into your body.  

Imagine the energy filling you up.  

Once you are filled up, imagine your roots shrinking and exiting the earth

sit for a minute and reflect, take some more deep breaths

open your eyes, get up and continue about your day.

hope this helps.

The reason why you have a Penis, it's because its part of the Matter's scents. You have it because you had it while you were in an subconscient animal state. Its a reproductive organ, nothing else. But this is a question nobody ever asked, like you just did; in fact they spoke their mind because they got free will, but their ignorance is such that their matter blurries their intelligence. Cats have a penis, Dogs have it, birds have it, fishes do, and Dogs and Cats do not reach the Father who is in Heavens. Believe me that If you cannot understand the things from this earth, how do you spect to understand the things from heaven?

Remember to not confuse the laws created by the Human, with those created by our Endless Father.

Humans are no different from animals.  Most christians beleive that we are somehow above animals and that we are some kind of privaleged beings and that only we deserves god's grace.  Humans ARE animals, we are beings of this earth, not of heaven.  Christians' ignorance to certain truths, which they think contradict the bible, is so much that it blurs their vision, and shuts their eyes.  I have a penis because i was born with one, like every other human, like every other animal.  I was also born with urges that help keep human existance going.  God gave us a penis, and masturbation is somthing humans found out.  Its not like theres a verse in the bible about it.  "Thou shast not lay thaye hand upon thayself"

I really dont see how masturbation is a sin, or somthing bad.  Your not hurting anyone, your not worshping other gods, youre not lying, stealing, killing, cheating, having a bunch of sex or anything.  And you may be so inclined to say 'well its impure thoughts' but I dont think so, a man is made to fantisize about a woman, if men didnt think about sex, we would be screwed(no pun intended). If you say mastrubation is a sin you might as well say eating desert is a sin, cause like reproducing, you eat to keep existing, but cake is an extra, just like masturbation.

i concur souljah, i too see god as a parent more than a vengeful god, that cant wait to send me to hell for anything 'wrong' i may do.  Feels good to agree.

Believe me that whoever speaks for himself, its getting glory for himself as well, and God will judge him for that in times of rebirth; but I who speak, don't do it for my own glory, as my glory comes from my Father who created me.

So i cant fornicate or masturbate, then why do I have a penis?  I think god would rather me masturbate, than go have premarital sex, cause thats like a big no no right?

This is the best thread, EVAR!  

Why does masturbation have to be a spiritual experience?  Why cant people just masterbate cause they are horney?  And you release energy when doing pretty much everything.   I think masturbation is being put on a pedistal here.

No, thats not what i meant, i was merely showing the irony of your statment.  While you dont think this is a place for arguing, many people do, and they really have no tolerance for other's beleifs.

I just dont get why humans have such a big problem with abstract beleifs or people who think differntly from them.   Its like it just racks their nerves untill they cant stand it anymore, if they dont say somthing to the other person.   If the guy wants to beleive in this, LET HIM.  Its not gonna affect your life in any way.  Youre not gonna die because he beleives this.   Its the same kinda discrimination you get with organized religions.

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This is not a battleground.

Ya, enough with the insults Goku

Yeah, no hostility here.

What we have here is a group of people who think that the super human thing is not possible, trying to discuss weather its possible or not, agains one person who thinks it is.   Basiclly, youre all agreeing on the fact that you dissagree with TDC and that he is just a little kid with a DBZ fantasy.  Now that all of us have discussed our opionion on the matter, I beleive it is frivilous to continue this dicussion.  It makes me sad that we can never dicuss anything without arguing.  What we need to do is stop psycoanalyzing TDC and just stop posting on this thread.  If you have nothing that contributes tho the topic of the thread, then dont post anything at all.

Well i agree with  TDC on some degree.   I dont think that when enough chi is stored or used that your muscles grow and your hair turns big an blonde.    I do however agree, that under the right control and circumstances you can become much stronger than you are now, and you will gain the ability to do things that normal humans cant do.  No physical/visual transformation required.  Althgouh high amounts of energy flowing through the body is bound to cause some kind of physical change, whether its a big change like the dragonball series or a small change, like light distortion.    

And to nick's stament,  the 'true'  concept of chi, is just that, a concept.   You see, what somthing means to one person, isnt what it means to another.   Its based on perspective.  One ancient asian guy said 'Chi is this...'  and thats his view on the matter.  It dosnt make it true.  In my short time in this place, i have come to realize that nothing is certain and nothing is truely true.   In the beggining there was the word.   If everybody says somthing is true, then people beleives it is.   All I know is that nobody tells me what im looking at, I interpret for myself.  I really dont beleive that clarity of thought requires no emotion, again you are getting this from the martial arts, which sombody told you that in order for you to have a clear mind, you must not have emotion.   I, as earlier stated, dont let sombody tell me what my i need to have clear thought, i know what I need.  

Of course, your views are your own, and its not my place to discard your beleifs, just like it wasnt your right to discard TDC's beleifs as somthing unrealistic.    So I say no more arguing and just let sombody beleive what they want, its not gonna hurt you to let a person beleive they can be super sajin(or however you spell it).   Humans have such a problem with things that oppose them.  We all need to get over it.

EDIT:  I meant to add that even though things in the physical abide by the rules of physics, the methaphysical can alter the physical worlld.  And humans hasnt figured out the pysics to everything yet.

I don't believe in the anger making you stronger, sure maybe brute strength, but that won't win the fight always.
It's like Bruce Lee said, showing no emotion, you must stay calm and emotionless, to study the opponent. Becoming angry will just result in you flailing your arms and a skilled martial artist will hit you before you get a chance to strike.

No, uncontrolled anger can result in you flailing your arms.  Anger is a human emotion, it part of being human, while supressing isnt always bad, pretending youre not angry or trying to run from your anger is.   And youre not seeing what happens when you get mad, your mind becomed incredibly clear and youre running strait off instincts.  Its very hard to become that way in a normal state, therefore, through the use of controlled anger, you can acheive that state of mind.  

And I really dont follow the religious teachings of Bruce Lee.  He had skills, but what works for him, dosnt work for everyone.  And im not talking about martial arts, this is what is throwing you all off.  What im talking about is more of a skill all its own, not a aspect of fighting.  Im saying that you can heal faster, never get sick, do amazing physical things(besides fighting) and have an easier time with tk and psi balls and such.  We need to get the fighting out of the conversation, cause its a really bad example and its confusing people.

And humans can't transform. Explain to me how the laws of biology would allow this.

Um, this isnt a place for textbook biology, if youre looking for science, youre in the wrong place.  

Holy crap, DBZ isn't real! Ther is NOBODY and I mean NOBODY alive who can burn people with ki ball attacks! Your a kid trying to make your DBZ fantasy real, and its just not gonna happen. Even people who claim they can make ki balls, they say they can just push you or hurt you, not burn you. If ki was flammable, wouldn't we be on fire all the time?

Dood, that isnt cool.  Bruce lee would never put sombody down for beleiving in somthing.  Just because you dont agree, dosnt make them wrong or stupid.   If you think sombody is wrong, move on.  Just let it go, dont argue.

Funny how many people feel completely obliged to speak up when they "think" they know what they're talking about. Also funny how it never gets any deeper than the argument. (So much for Spiritual Evolution)

meh, i was never much of a poet.  im more of a drawing man myself.  Yeah it  never does go deeper than the argument, sad isnt it.  Maybe we should get to know each other more.  We can be pen pals.

wtf is going on?  

just be yourself...and speak up where you see injustice.

Youre not getting my point, you can speak all want, theres nothing you can do.  They have the power to silence you.  There is nothing you can do, and I think that scares you.  Souljah, you like to be in control and act like you stand for somthing, which is why you spoke out to defend this member we were supposidly bashing.  Well sorry, youre not in control, youre nevah gonna be in control, and in some attempt to control part of the net, you start your own forum where you enforce this set of shallow ethics so people dont feel so bad for not being in charge.


And I have no problem with how things run here, its quite good acutally.  Its just people have to come in and make a big point like they are saving the world or somthing.  There will be no peace as long as people like souljah are compelled to argue against everything.

not the way it works online, not the way it works in real life, not the way it even works in the astral.

This isnt real life, its the internet  .   And yeah, youre pretty much at the mods and admin's disposal.  If they agree that you get banned, or whatever, then thats what happens, no discussion no nothing.   So it pretty much rests upon them.  Theres nothing you can do to stop them, its not illegal its their forums, they can run it like they want.  It may be unfair, but what can you do?

I think sombody wants to be a mod...


You may live in a world where people vote and everybody gets a turn, but thats not the way it works on the internet.  You cant pass around the ability to delete posts and all those great powers every few months cause you dont like whos mod.   And nobody is attacking anyone, you start babbling on about somthing that nobody can see what youre saying, we are going to tell you about it.   The internet isnt a place where everything is nice and everything is fair, its based on senority and who you know.  If sombody is friends with the admin of a site, they can become admin or mods also.  Its just the way it works, theres not much you can do about it.  You cant just walk into a forum and become a mod, you must be here for a while, learn how things work, be an active member etc.  I think the system is working as good as it can while keeping the peace.   Its not like theres a bunch of flamming going on or anything.   And sadly, if a mod dissagrees with you, then you are at their mercy they could ban you and theres nothing you  can do, youre a thousand miles away and with the click of a buttion you can be disconnected.  

Im talking in the most extreme cases though, not all mods(and certainly none here) are ruthless and cruel like ive seen on some forums.  You better be glad its as good as it is.  We are allowed alot of room to argue and stuff.

one of my favorites is "as i walk through the valley by the shaddow of death, i will fear no evil because i am the baddest motha***** here."   It works really good when youre scared.

Theres nothing wrong with being crazy.  Crazy is just sane on a vacation.

you dont need great martial art skills.  I watched the matrix 5 times and once in slow motion.