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#1
My Tale of Vibes from an Odd LD

I had an experience a while ago that I'd like to share just for the heck of it. Awhile ago I was quite interested in lucid dreams, and had only heard small bits about OOBE's from a few lucid dreaming sites, but just thought it was crazy talk. This happened during that time of my LD interest, which probably help cause it:

One day I woke up. It was a nice, sunny Sunday in summer. I was tired, lazy, and had nothing else to do, so I rolled over and fell back asleep. Within a few seconds of doing this, I began dreaming. The dream was basically a restaurant that seemed to be, from my perspective, in a tall tower and outside a pink sky was visible. The restaurant itself looked odd as well: all open and curvy and with tables placed with big spaces between one another. Very quickly I realize that this was a dream...

As soon as I realized I was dreaming, I got incredibly excited. This was, after all, my first lucid dream (and I've only had one or two since, and my mind certainly was all groggy and confused during those later ones, so they don't compare.) I immediately began to look down at my watch just to do a dream-test to root myself in the dream, all the while thinking "don't wake up!" to myself. That was a bad thing though, since it kinda caused me to wakeup :)

Or I though I had woken up; in all actuallity it was probably a false awakening. I only think this because when I looked in my brother's room across the hall through my open door, I saw many many white shirts. He doesn't own many, white shirts at all, and certainly not enough to cover the room. Of course, I just accepted it at the time because my mind was still sorta tired-ish. Back on topic... upon having this false awaking I immediately rolled over in bed and tried to fall asleep again (I was tired, it was summer, so what :D). This very action did something very odd that I've never read about before, however.

You see, as soon as I closed my eyes, everything went utterly BLACK except for three intensly bright white letters. The letters were so "intense" that I felt like I got punched or something. The letters, going top to bottom vertically, were "HBO". This is of course a TV channel, but it reminded me of the abbreviation "OOB", or "OOBE"... one of those. Just the simple act of remembering this abbrevitation kicked me awake and into the vibrations. This I have not read anywhere else, and the very fact that it was crystal clear, was all that seemed to exist at the time, and hit me so hard was just odd.

Of course, many of you have heard tales of the vibrations, but I'll explain them anyways. Basically, as soon as I woke up there was a deep shake throughout my body. It was sort of like a shiver, but more "deep" and intense feeling. It's quite hard to put into words. I could, to a degree, move the intensity of the vibrating around, but not much. I could hardly control it. Coupled with the vibrations were a warmth, and a "humming", or "win rushing" sound, kind of like that which you get when yawning (or maybe that which you may hear when some pain or pressure is applied to some sensitive area of the head, like sore sinuses or something.)

Basically, the whole experience is what got me thinking that all this Astral Projecting / OOBE'ing stuff might not be as crazy as it sounds. I felt it, therefore it is nearly impossible for me to deny it; and since I've seen no good scientific explanation to what caused it (sleep paralysis I had heard about, but I knew I was vibration, so I wasn't totall paralyzed), I simply had to turn the the fact that it might be what people claim it is. Denial of the experience would be foolish and illogical. Of course, I'm still slightly skeptical but as soon as a first AP happens, if ever, all that will melt away and perhaps my friends will actually take this seriously. I can always wish :)
#2
You sure aren't alone. I often have problems getting to sleep (or whatnot), from the result of sudden 'jerks'/'jumps'/'jolts' or whatever. Sometimes this will happen in only part of my body, which is odd, and other times it's the normal full body variety.

Much of the time these jolts occur when I begin to drift off into a partial 'dream', and see something like a frying pan being swatted at me, a kid pushing me out of the seat at a theatre, or perhaps just the classic 'running and tripping'.

Overall this whole thing is very obnoxious, and while it doesn't stop me from sleeping and such every night, it does tick me off when it occurs.
#3
Stigmata?

Anyways, it sounds like a medical problem that might be aggrevated by something with projecting ('vibrations' or something may be damaging already weak muscles or something, I don't know). It would be really really advisable to contact a doctor.

As for the fear that the doctor will think she's a little 'off', it's not really the place of a medical doctor to question one's beliefs and such... many people have likely went to a doctor with stigmata and not been sent to the mental hospital. If she just says she thinks it's something like that, and the doctor questions it, he would be questioning her beliefs which he would likely not do or be uncomfortable doing.

Overall: to not see a doctor would be more harmful than good. If it's some wacky spirit thing (of which I know nothing about, and am skeptical of), then it won't do any good, but nor would it do any harm. If it is a medical condition, the doctor could be vital in diagnosing and treating it. (Not meaning to question her sanity much, but be sure these aren't self-inflicted either).
#4
That is pretty thoughtful there aissy. I don't exactly know how to respond to it other than that.

As for the legitimacy of astral projections, I can only speak from my personal experience. I experienced the vibrations one day just by a stray thought about "OBE" in a lucid dream, and that was really really wacky and though provoking. I never believed that OBE's were real, or any more than a weird dream (so it wasn't a matter of affirmation of a belief manifesting itself). I even did not want them to happen, and tried to little avail to stop them when they did. Yet after having felt them they seem to follow the explanation most other people have given.

This whole phenomena has to be something, and I'd be just as content learning that people who can project have learned to overload their brain cells and cause them to go bonkers as I would to discover that it really is proof of the soul, life after death, etc. I just want to know.

(Have any studies with a newish real-time brain activity imaging thingie been done on astral projectors?)
#5
Isn't that essentially like putting yourself in a controlled "death"? Sounds nasty, and I wouldn't doubt contact in such a state would cause a final death, since you would be teetering so close to it. I understand now, yep.

Personally, I don't know much about the lethality of 'normal' OBEs, though what many seem to believe is that the worst that can happen is that you get a chunk of energy sucked out of you and can be tired or sick until it's replenished.
#6
I've heard of people coaxing one another out of the projection through physical contact, or one being awoken by physical contact in the real world. Could it have meant the cord was snapped back or something?

(they might be right, I just doubt it's true because Robert Monroe, among folks, has said that any sense in the real world like sound or such will wake you just like it would from sleep)
#7
Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / BW Generator
February 25, 2004, 20:41:44
You know, there's some but in it that you don't really even need a registration code or crack to swap the presets one by one... (it has to do with renaming of files, it's not hard to figure out at all; but I am not sharing. Figure it out if you're too cheap to pay :P)

It is good software, and it's worht paying these people what they deserve.
#8
Err, I've heard of humans touching one another in astral and not dieing. As have I heard that as it's only a projected astral body out there, as soon as you're in trouble the energy snaps back to your physical (/ ethereal?) body, as does your consciousness. Even if the astral body was mostly sucked dry of energy, your consciousness is still intact and your physical body's "mind" is also (thinking its "mind" as a non-conscious brain which you can then turn your conscious focus back on as usual... I think). You're still able to go back probably because it's what you're used to and its what you revert to if you're over scared. edit: hence the cord is probably just a mental representation of the familiarity and belonging the consciousness has the the body, and not a link to be severed.

Of course, I likely know nothing [:D]