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Yes get around 5 hours of sleep then try. Your body is allready relaxed try to get up use the rest room are get somthing to drink. Then lay down with your beats and you have the best chance of sucess. I personally wake up without moving keeping my body in sp then roll out the process takes a few seconds after waking up. But this method takes alot of pratice but you can do it.

I told my wife we need a nite light in our room but didn't tell her it was because it was so dark I couldn't see when I go OOB lol. I can't seem to see in the dark at all but I guess it's because it's the norm for me to not be able to see. Next time I will tell my self I can see and maybe I will?

Hi,
Thanks for the comments.
Its true that research and practice pays off, Ive been trying to get in the RTZ fully consciously for a while. After thinking on what I know, I realised practicing what you preach had to be a good idea. I recently posted to treat these images like wallpaper, so doing this for the first time gave the exact and desired result. I'm sure I'll not miss these light shows as they really are a massive distraction. To a beginner theres no point in trying if you watch this show. I hope this will enable those who occasionally travel too.
Going through these images without looking at them is a must even when they are clear and moving. The end result is far better than these images.
Youll instinctively know you're at the door. It has a feel to it.
Best of luck.

When I meditate I start seeing random images like a city from an airplane view, a forest ect they are very clear I can make this start happeneing at will but then ussally fall asleep

I'll take a shot at this as I'm no expert by any means.
In some sence its the same as your projecting your astral body either way. If you have an obe your in your astral body Projecting

That's what I was thinking also I beleive I traveled to the plain and created my inviorment. Now I want to do this every nite, I'm praticing awarness while almost falling asleep so I can roll out again

I can say both times have been very vivid in fact I can't think about anything but my experience  from last nite it was that real. I was t scared at as I knew what to expect from all my reading. Both time it's like I'm sleeping but my mind wakes up I don't move and just automatilly try to pull out my body and I do. Just wish I knew if I were dreaming or it was real. The sensations felt very real when coming out.

From what I've read of others trying drugs to project they had rather bad expereinces.
but if your mind is allready made up good luck and let us no your results.

Hi everyone I am new to the fourm but not to astral projection.
I started trying about a year ago but never with any sucess.
So I took a break and started meditating and lucid dreaming.
But lately I had 2 experiences the first I woke up what I'm thinking I was in SP.
I tried turning over very hard feeling a very strong falling sensation and I kept going then just like that I was floating above my bed it was very dark though and I never saw my body but I was aware it was there.
I remeber thinking to myself if I think about my body I will return to it and try to get some distance from it then I was back in my body.

Now last nite was a little different I woke up like the same as last time and was turning over trying to come out I felt a falling sensation but this time I herd a loud nois like loud static and may have seen HIpnotoic images. I again came out and was above my bed it wasn't quite as dark this time but didn't look for my body again. I then though to my self I wanna go to a game I play it the got dark like I was traveling to the plain about 10 seconds later it was very colorfull like I was in my game I stayed there very breiflly and wanted to return to my body so I did.

So my question is could this all be dreams or am I really astral projecting?