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#1
Hello!

I'm really sorry for writing this topic. I know that many people are complaining they cannot experience oobe. I don't want to complain. I just want to ask you about a little clue or advice what to do; an answer what am I doing wrong.
I'm interested in OOBE since 2006 and from that time 99% of these experiences are spontaneous. I rarely experience – 1 OOBE every two, three months.

At first, I must confess that I really don't like the method called 4+1 (a few hours of sleeping and then up to 60 minutes of an activity to wake up my mind). So... I rarely do this technique. It's also because this technique doesn't seem to work.

I usually practice by day (I wish to experience OOBE at day, when my level of conscious and memory is high), often before sleep, sometimes at night and almost never at 5-7 AM (at this time there is a rush in my home). Yea, I know I'm doing this on the contrary :/ but I really believe that time isn't important... if you know exactly what to do.

Nevertheless, I think I may say that I often have no problems with relaxing my body and getting my mind still and focused. It's unimportant whether I lie on my back or just sit.
I try to get out of my body and to do this I clear my mind and immediately remove all incoming thoughts. It's not so hard. And here starts my problem. Nothing noticeable happens. I can lie/sit even 90 minutes. It's nice but leads me to nowhere. Of course, sometimes I feel some little sensations -  e. g. my body is getting numb (not always and not too much) and often after some time I get this annoying feeling which is trying to force me to move. I try to fight with this feeling, but still nothing happens. Further efforts are pointless.

What are my strategies to get out of body? There are 3 major:
1. I try to keep my mind awaken as long as I can – I can lay really long without effects...,
2. I try to go to sleep – and yes, finally I fall asleep,
3. I try to stay conscious while falling asleep – and... I don't fall asleep but I'm very close. I'm on the border. Unfortunately I even don't notice this state.

Since the beginning (my adventure with oobe) I always knew what to do while I finally was experiencing vibrations.
When I feel vibrations I intuitively know how to behave. I don't need any techniques/methods. I don't think, I just act.

My problem is how to reach these vibrations. I think that in my case they are important/necessary, they help me. Thanks to them I know that it's time to act.

That's all. Thank you for reading this :) I would appreciate every single advice.

Best wishes!
#2
I'm really happy I have found this forum and finally decided to say hello :]

I'm interested in OOBE since 2006 and from that time I try to get out of my body, change my state of mind or perceive the Wider Reality as one could say. I don't know which of these is correct, maybe all. I only know that this specific experience really does exist – I've experienced it :D

I have OOBE extremely rarely – approximately once every two months. Most, if not all, of my OOBEs are spontaneous. Unfortunately, I still don't know what to do to cause this experiences. I try various methods but they don't seem to work well.
Anyway I don't discourage myself and think positive.

PS. English isn't my native language, so please forgive me all my language errors. I try to avoid them.

Bye ;)