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4 years and still haven't got out, but lots of exciting and intriguing experiences. Never give up.

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You need to explain to your mother in a rational and calm manner that astral projection is now a passion of yours, and that passions should not be simply given up. Systematically and logically proove to her that it is not sinful. Ask her calmy, "what evidence do you know of, to suggest that Astral projection is evil"? Analyze her answer. Where do her thoughts come from? And how would your mother know it is evil when she has not consciously projected? Explain to her that every human on Earth leaves their body unconsiously, almost everynight. You are merely trying to become conscious of the phenomena.

Logically and systematically break the topic down. Talk about Near death experiences. You could say Astral projection is merely the art of inducing a NDE on purpose.

quote:A revolution in science is needed to really accept these studies as anything but esoteric, as well as advances in our understanding of metaphysics that will facilitate their study.

Yes, I think this is true to an extent. The aim of my post though, was to indicate that science has to start somewhere, just as it had to start somewhere centuries ago in proving that the world was round and not flat. This is why I find the topic of science investigating psychical subjects to be interesting.

Relating "Discussion ethics/Manners" to the topic of "Scientific investigation into psychical matters" is quite a stretch, to say the least, in my view. But anyway.

quote:Scientific enquiry, as it is defined today, is inadaquate to the investigation of metaphysical issues - that is why it is (as it is currently understood) a dead end, and that is why I say our discussion is still very much on topic.

I would have to disagree. Parapsychology is already recognized as an official science and is slowly growing in popularity. Many prominent Astral projectors have worked with scientists to yield interesting results concerning the Out of Body Experience phenomena. Acupuncture is a medical science frequently used in the Orient that has been proven to work. This is a science based upon energy principals. For these few reasons, I believe science can do much for our investigations into our psychical energy bodies.

It would, and I do see it from your perspective. However, without intending to sound too big-headed, I believe the reasoning I have put forth is more beneficial to both parties. Just registered because I didn't want JAW, who is trying to believe, to be put off.

Allright, that's enough from me, we're off-topic now.

Scientific research into Astral Projection is an interesting endeavour in my view, so if anyone else has some interesting articles relating to it, I'm sure Astral Pulse members would be interested to read it.

Whilst you may not have believed yourself to be acting cynically, you should be more aware of other persons feelings. Simply because you did not believe yourself to be speaking cynically, that does not mean other people will see this from your same perspective.

In short, words which are not carefully chosen hurt the most.

What you said was far more cynical, kiauma.