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I see alot of people make posts and the like saying that OOBE's are nothing but dreams. Wow.....just wow. I've had experience with WAKE INDUCED LUCID DREAMS as well as ASTRAL PROJECTION and anybody whose ever had a CONSCIOUS one can tell you that you actually LEAVE THE BODY.

When I Consciously project, as soon as the Vibrations hit, my Consciousness is as good as it is in waking life, and the separation process alone is enough to KNOW it's no dream. You can feel and hear yourself ripping out of your body.

Plus, there have been plenty of tests done by organizations like THE MONROE INSTITUTE. I've trained both friends and family that were skeptics and now are well believers based on the Vibrations alone. All I can say is that you don't have to believe you can actually leave the body, but boy are you missing out on a lot.

It was difficult, very difficult. It wasn't really sneaking because he knew I was gonna try even though he didn't believe it could happen though. The first time, I had trouble even getting the Vibrations, then when I got the Vibes, I'd get out but be zapped back in before I had even made it to the main door of my house. I don't know how to fly or travel instantly, I guess that takes time and patience.

Then that night I was more concentrated and it took all my concentration to make it to his house, didn't want to fall into a fantasy or anything. He lives 3 blocks behind me but I'd say he's less than a football fields length if I'da went a strait line.

I usually project from the Etheral and within about 5-10 minutes I'll just 'end up' in the Astral but still aware of what's going on.

Instead of teaching him a specific Technique, I just taught him HOW and WHY a projection happens and he was able to experience it himself. The Mechanics of projection are simple, you don't really need a technique.

When the natural projection reflex took place, the vibes kicked in for him I guess but he said it was the scariest shlt he's ever experienced.

I had a friend who was skeptic so we did a test. I told him to set any of his X-Box games on his desk until I can successfully project over there and tell him what game he set on his desk. 2 Days later, I did an afternoon projection and proceeded to his house, I failed. Later that night, I attempted again and this time when I got there I looked on his desk and thought I fell into the 'Alice' effect because I saw 2 X-Box games and couldn't really make them out so I considered this a failure too.

The next day I told him I think I slipped into some astral dream because I saw 2 X-box games and couldn't make out either one. Plus, I knew he had only put 1 there. When I told him this, he looked at me like he had seen a ghost and when I asked what was wrong, he told me he put 2 games instead of 1 just to see if I'd really do it because in a dream I could make a good guess based on expectations, so he started to become a believer.

After about a day of teaching him the MECHANICS of projecting he was able to get to the VIBRATIONAL STATE. He said he'd never been so scared in his life when that happened. A day later he was able to consciously exit from the VIBRATIONAL STATE but only stayed out a few seconds. He's had several since then and is a full believer on leaving the body.

I taught a cousin but the VIBRATIONAL STATE scared her so much she hasn't really been trying to do it even though she's found herself out a few times since, she's too scared and said she just wants to go to sleep normally from now on.

I guess some people aren't ready for this........

Sure, just PM me.......

Bwgen is great for those who know how to use it, I use it for meditation but I also have this wave file for OOBEing and it works nearly once every three times which is good enough for me.

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