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Does anyone know of any conjurations for combating negs, helping you get OBE or even remember dreams in the morning? Maybe some mp3's so I would know how to pronounce them correctly? I am just curious because I have read about conjurations to ward of negs but never saw any actual sayings.

Thanks

So I have a very serious idea here and I need your input if you think it will work and if ANYONE who can OBE regularly wants to help then please do so!

is it true that if you OBE and have a person in mind then you can contact them or go to them? Is it also true that the akashic records holds the books of people lives, like a record of the events of thier lives that you can view?

If the above are true then here is the problem and my proposed solution. There is a young, beautiful teen girl named Brooke Wilberger that is missing in Oregon. They have been searching for her and cannot find her. There is a $30,000 reward for anyone who provides information on her whereabouts. Let me stress...THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY! I came up with this idea out of deep compassion for her and her family when I saw it on the news.

Is it possible to contact her or go to her whereabouts while OBE and find where she is by thinking of her when you are OBE? Is it also possible to go to the akashic records and view her book on her life to see actually what happened? If ANYONE has any ideas or would like to try to help just let me know. I cannot OBE on a regular basis and need the help from more experienced projectors.

You can gain info on her at http://www.findbrooke.com

Do you think it is possible?

So let me tell you what happened this morning and then you can comment on it. I was half asleep/half awake it felt although possibly out of body or starting to go out of body....and suddenly i heard a woman's voice whisper my name twice then I heard sounds of fingernails scratching against my bedroom door or possibly the wall in my bedroom. I felt a very strong presence in the room close to me as well. I was able to see around my room at this point and couldnt see anything but I also could not move. I had heavy waking paralysis so I tried to frantically shake and wake myself up and i did.

Does anyone know what might have happened??? It was the most terrifying thing I have experienced yet. I would like to inform you though that about a month ago I had asked multiple time to meet my spirit guide and for it to help me with OBE. Is it possible that this was my spirit guide but it contacted me in a terrifying way that it didnt know would effect me like it did???

I read in Astral Dynamics about the dweller and all sorts of noises that you might here that are put in place to prevent you from OBE and to just ignore them no matter how real they seem. It even talked about hearing someone calling your name. Do you think that my experience was just what Robert was talking about in his book?

Thanks!

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Hey I just want to inform you all of this free online AP course I signed up for when I found it.

http://www.mysticweb.org/phps/netclasses/

It seems like it might be pretty good and I mean...its free so you cant really argue. I guess its like 9 weeks long or something.

check it out. []

I have been doing some reading and almost everything I read says you should either be laying on your back, legs uncrossed and arms at your sides OR sitting in a chair or recliner to have the correct posture for APing. I know that I have never been able to fall asleep while laying in bed on my back.

I was wondering if anyone has ever APed by laying on thier side or even stomach. What positions do you find that work the best?

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So i have a question......I tried to AP last night and i began by doing a meditation on my chakras and raising energy up through my body. At one point i felt like i was floating and at the same time i felt my chest beating extremely fast.

Is this my heart beating? It worried me so as soon as i got scared i lost the feelings? Is this the famous vibrations that people talk about? Should I just go with the feeling and not be worried? Afterit was over i though about it and when it was beating very fast it felt like it was in the center of my chest...and my heart is off to the left...which makes me think it was my heart chakra.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Just let me know because I was afraid that I was going to have a heart attack. haha [xx(]

I read somewhere that it is possible to AP and then be able to heal your physical body by healing your body in the astral realm...like healing your energy body. Has anyone read anything about this or experienced it? I was wondering because there are certain conditions that I have that can't be healed by traditional medicine and I thought I might have a chance at it by doing it during an AP. I havent APed in almost a year so I havent been able to try it yet on myself.

Thanks and cheers!

I was wondering if anyone has ever used audio cd's that i see out there claiming to help you project be altering your brain waves into like the theta and delta ranges.....CDs such as hemisync as well have claimed to be able to help induce seperation from your physical body. If anyone has tried this please let me know how well it worked for you and which CD was it that you used.

cheers!

"Our bodies are light. We are eternal." -- Maynard

Kerrblur,

Thanks for your help. Please let me know what you find out. I was told by someone that as long as you have thier full name and birthdate then you could access thier records. Please post back if you find out anything.

I would like to say that I meditated on her for roughly 30mins today, calling her out and asking her to show me or take me to where she is and at one point I didnt see anything BUT I could taste dirt or mud in my mouth very slightly and also smell it VERY strong. It reminded me of when I was young and I would play out in the dirt or grass and fall face down how you could smell the earth.

Best of luck to you and keep me posted.

Thank you everyone for writing and sharing your experiences with me. Knowing that others have seen and heard terrifying things while on the edge of OBE is reassuring to me.

So I braved my fear and went to sleep last night with the idea that it came from my subconsciousness and that it wouldnt happen again because I didnt want it to. Everything went well and I slept without hearing any crazy noises....even though I slept with a nightlight on...hahaha

I am such a whimp. []

Ok, well I didnt read through all 8 pages of this because I am falling asleep here and I want to go to sleep. BUT....I would just like to comment on why OBE is totally different then a dream and the proof that I have from what I have read and experienced.

When you lay down to go to bed your brainwaves which normally pulse in the beta range will switch to alpha as you relax, then as you approach the edge of falling asleep they will enter theta....when they are in theta, this is the famous mind awake, body asleep state...ala the state in which OBE occurs. If you continue to relax and go with the flow...your body and mind will fall asleep and your consciousness will go with it into the delta state. This is the state of full sleep and unconsciousness and the state in which dreaming takes place.

So in conclusion OBE is different then dreaming because physically our brainwaves are in different states as well as our consciousness being awake or asleep for lack of better terminology.

I have verified this myself by using brainwave music to switch my brainwaves into full theta and I was DEFINATLY not asleep because there was no feeling of ever crossing that point and losing consciousness. While in this state I was able to OBE. If I dont use the theta music then I feel myself cross that certain point in which i switch from theta to delta and I feel my consciousness shut down as I drift asleep and then I end up having a dream.

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According to Eastern thought and Taoism....when you masurbate you release vital energy called "jing". So in theory....I don't see how it would help you since you would be releasing vital energy that you might need to OBE. If anything...you should refrain from masturbating as long as possible to cultivate and build up energy. []

Thing,

Thanks...how do i get to download that mp3? I tried to cut and paste that into my browser but it didnt work.

thanks nick. yeah i have bgun to dig deeper in the threads and find info on certain cd's.

cheers!

Patrik,

I know what you mean about the third eye! I can almost ALWAYS feel pressure in mine even when i am just sitting around reading or on the computer. I dont know what the purpose is of this because i dont have any psychic experiences really. I have had only 2 OBEs but they were like a year ago and since them the pressure in my third eye has increased. It is nothing discomforting because I have honestly gotten used to it. All I know is that the third eye is the eye of insight and the center of psychic ability even though I havent really experienced much.

In fact right now just writing this post is making me have alot of pressure in it. []

You should always set an alarm clock...that way the alarm will always go off and wake you up...pulling you back to your physical body so there would be no need to worry about getting stuck out of your body for good. []

so i shouldnt worry about my heart beating fast? As soon as i stopped trying to project...my heart calmed down (or whatever it was that was beating)

How should i develop my energy body more so i can project easier? Should I continue to do excersises from Astral Dynamics?

Thanks for the help. []

I dont have any heart problems but i am just wondering if my heart beating that fast could possible cause a heart attack. That would not be good if that is the case and it just worries me.

I was training in Shaolin Kung Fu for a year and i can remember that i was able to feel energy movement and had the most successful projections during that time when i was training on a routine basis. So i def do think it helps you with projecting because it teaches you to harness and focus your energy as well as concentrate and build your internal chi.

Aping for me has been a very spiritual experience. It has opened my eyes to the world around me and shown me that what you see around is not true reality and that there are worlds within worlds. It has also shown me what to expect when i pass on away from this physical plane so i no longer fear death....but i still fear which way i will die and the pain that will temporarily be involved. But just remember, we are eternal and the pain is an illusion.

I can also make a nice analogy for you that i think almost everyone can relate to......APing is like taking the red pill in the movie The Matrix. It shows you the truth and free's your mind. []