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I read this somewhere..

 " Mankind is created from the blood of the evil and from the soul of divinity, so mankind possesses the key by which he can open the gates of absolute evil, and he possesses the weapons by which the evil was defeated in a time beyond knowledge and his consciousness is the covenant between spirit and matter"

 would this mean anything?

I see what you want to say pod_3, Alice Bailey was the one that mostly made up what has now changed to ''Lucis Trust'' instead of the previous ''full name'' (for apparent reason, of course).

Interesting words.  Hummm Alice Bailey can be understood in more that one way; I'm talking about the books of the Tibetan written by Alice Bailey.  They require the understanding of a Mason.

I'd like to read what's your view about her books, I mean, how do think they fit in daily life.

[We will all be united as one again in 2012]

Fret not my brother. We will all be united as one again in
2012  

Well guys , that's why Bush was elected for second time; his plan is to give a more "globalized  agenda" to the USA.    Let's see what's gonna happen in the middle east.

HI Callista

 Well chakras are not just energy pools; chakras are conscious centers  which manage storage and provide the conscious energy that we use every day as human beings.

 Animals have chakras but less developed , being the  greater one for them the solar plexus chakra.

 For plants I have noticed that there is an energy center at the spot where the "trunk" splits into brunches. This is specially noticeable in trees.

 If you practice making pass energy from one hand to this spot and then back to the other hand  making a circle over and over you will feel something "particular" which is different than doing this in any other spot.

Hello Nils

 I'll be looking for your experiences and personal comments.

  Greetings

It is said that the spiritual energies around the earth , as well as in this solar system and further more, are growing up so we are running closer every day to a huge change. It is said that everyone who does not change its behavior into a more spiritualized one will feel the effects of this increase of spiritual energy.  From many important sources it is said that this spiritual momentum will rich his climax in 2012; but until then the energies will continue to speed up and every time more unusual event will come on screen...

HI knucklebrain1970

¡¡¡ Energy work I would say. !!!

Lack of energy is produced because we don't enjoy our environment.

I would bet that you don't like the weather and the environment  you live in ; if that is true, then your energy body is not open to the energies that you need.  Learning to sense , feel , love and enjoy the energies of the local area weather, as well as the energies at work , from the people around , etc is so very important to develop good health , either physical , mental and psychological.

If you can accomplish that you will experience some changes. Give it a serous try.

How'd you keep a a solid memory of that, of all three bodies?

Probably by being able to consciously shifting the awareness from one body to another while in oobe.

I personally think (just a theory) that the memory that will remain in our brain is the one that will go with our awareness; so by being able to manage (shifting) the point of awareness while in oobe from one body to another, is probably the way to remembering events from different astral doubles in that particular oobe.

Thanks guys

 I really hope that it happens again. I think the key is to have enough energy available from a couple of hours before the oobe attempt.

Last night I had a completely different oobe experience.
Since the beginning everything appeared so colorful, the trance vibrations were so gentle, when pulling at the rope I felt soft but ecstasy sensations, I saw colorful images of the rope like a red beam hanging from above.
When I was out of my physical body everything looked so clear , so bright, so colorful, the tree right in front of my house appeared before my eyes in a so great green appearance, it was wonderful.
I remembering doing just a couple of minutes of energy work before the oobe attempt but I did not do anything different from the other attempts.
It was so easy to fly around, everything was so vivid. I didn't want to fly any further so I went back to my physical body after 3 or 5 minutes; it was amazing. I don't know why it was so different this time but I hope it happens the same way again.
I feel like I'm doing some improvements in my oobe work , now I feel a fresh new motivation.

Thanks Cheyyne

Yes, probably Reiki would have more answers.  

I've been trying some experiments based on the "healing with the heart" article , in order to clear energy blockages in someone else.
I make the  energy in my chest area (base of the throat) draw a circle , going from my left arm and left  hand and then going back to my right hand , right arm and back again to the energy balloon-like  at the base of my throat.   Well , when I do this at the place of a secondary energy center of someone else (with the secondary energy center between my hands) , the other person sometimes feel a warm sensation , they think my hands gets warm , of course my hands remain the same, but I think they feel the energy clearing up energy blockages at the place of the secondary energy center.   The energy never leaves my body , it just passes through the energy center of the other person.

This could be seen as a procedure to clean up energy blockages in secondary energy centers, I'm looking for something more structured and scientific anyway , probably Reiki has some answers.

At the same time , if you or anyone else has a personal way to give healing to others, it would be great to read about and learn from each others.

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Hi everyone.

 Robert Bruce in his "healing with the Heart" article talks about sending energy to a diseased area in the body,    just like that    . I know that every ill person suffers of energy blockages, damaged energy pathways,  bad working chakras etc, or even a combination of all of this energetic problems.  
Also, most of the times the root of the problem is away from the part of the body which is causing the pain.

So, there must be a more complex technique (than just sending energy to a single spot in the human body) in order to give healing and at the same time getting good results.

Does anyone knows a procedure or at least a way to get good results by giving healing through this technique??


pd: I've been practicing energy intake through this technique and yes I can feel something like a balloon pumping up right under my throat. I'm not sure this is the heart center though.

HI alexd

I agree , it is not enough to just send energy to a  limb, organ, etc to heal it up.

Energy blockages, or damaged energy pathways will not get better just by sending energy to them. There MUST take place a very specific work in order to bring health to energetic structures and chakras as well. R.B. does not talks about that in the "healing with the heart" article.

Hello catsyniki

I remember myself having a bi-location experience at school when I was in 2º or 3º grade. I   was walking to the quad and spontaneously I found myself watching my physical body walking to the quad, there was 2 of me, that was a shocking experience and since then I  never had experienced something similar. I remember shifting my consciousness from the physical to the oobe double and vice versa too. Well at that age I used to experience spontaneous oobes very often but never bi-locations.

Hummm , I used to be very meditative and introspective-like at that age, in a way I could say that my awareness was always fluctuating around me and never in my head or in my brow.
Tell me about your conscious awareness at the time when you experience bi-location.

When I was a kid ( 4 to 9 years old) I used to experience spontaneous oobe, of course i didn't know what it was about, I remember standing aside my physical body watching me asleep and having fun watching the rest of my family around the house.

Well , I remember an experience when I was in 2º or 3º  grade, I was walking to the quad and suddenly  I found myself watching my physical body from the left; There was 2 of me , one (physical) walking to in the quad, and the other watching myself. I remember shifting my consciousness physical to oobe double and vice versa. That was a shocking experience to me , now I think that there must be a way to experience that in a more controlled way.

Symmetric patterns inside the pentagram have their roots in talismanic magic. So every pattern or symbol have a specific subconscious meaning for the magician.

As far as I know this is to trigger the emotional and mental energies from the mage to become a vortex for the energies he is summoning.

The pentagram symbolizes the "own world" for the magician, being inside are the 4 elements as well as the 4 bodies (mental, emotional, physical, etheric or astral) being them the source of power to make the invocations or evocations along the magical acts.

[What do I do when meditating:]

Good idea.  

Duration : 15 min to 1 hour.
Night/Day/Both: Lunch time and by evening (if possible)
Music:  no
Where you meditate: wherever I can; in my bed sitting in lotus position.
How long you've been meditation:  15 years (sporadic)
Positive results: Vibrational states, energy ecstasy, expanded awareness, high conscious states.

What do I do when meditating: Siting in lotus position, clean mind, concentrate in whatever I desire (a color, an emotion, an idea,  a higher being, etc.) , become that which I concentrate in.

I do not hear music when meditating simply because I get a better focus when I'm in silence. This way I can hear the sound of my own conscious state.

Meditation , to me is just entering into a trance state by focusing in whatever you want.  
Sometimes I focus in the light of Buda and the way it goes around people.
Sometimes I focus in a color or an emotion and forget about anything else. If I stay relaxed , concentrated and keep my mind clean I enter into a trance-like state; sometimes I feel some  sensations like spiritual Ecstasy that I think is impossible to attain in any other way.
It works great to me sitting in the Lotus position.

Yes it is basically a game of 'Polarities'-Positive and Negative.
If you look at the structure of an atom it is mostly empty space but HAS polarities. Everything in our Universe has poles, from Planets down to Atoms.

It is not about to manipulate. The golden light is about spiritual evolution, it is about new spiritual concept every time and self consciousness taking those new concepts into own life and using them to create own world. Having incorporated more of this light into self consciousness gives the ability to become aware of the path of those who are waking behind us, so the art of manipulation comes to issue.  But this is something which is part of a small  portion of the path, it's just a learning and nothing more.

 Everything is about polarity, receiving light, and giving it to own world for learning and giving assistance to others; ...then you receive more light..

Gman, it may be easy to manipulate what you already know (be them situations, reality, threads, etc), but that is like entering into a labyrinth where you stop learning.

I truly believe the way to change the world is to change the self.  But when the whole world seems to be crumbling around you through the uncaring acts of those who manipulate, take advantage of and hurt others... I had to ask myself then, what exactly is changing myself doing for the world?  If anything, I've experienced more hatred since I've tried to be good to other people.

The way I see  spirituality is not just as a concept to be carried inside.  There are many ways that evolution goes around the world and "Sophistication" is a natural consequence.

 I remember  those stories about the little child who use to believe that there parents were bad or mad at him (and the child was hurt); but when he grew up he realize that they were just normal people living and learning as any Mature person does.

Personally I think that every single situation , action, opinion, etc. has many different interpretations and every interpretation can become a reality for you or anybody else.  The more experienced you are about this, the more sophisticate you become in life.   Of course there are people who use their abilities to satisfy their ego not taking care about others, but the point is,  how do you deal with reality and what would be your contribution to the world you live in as a spiritually mature person.

Hi everyone , interesting topic

Gandalf

Under a Philosophical (hermetic if you want) view there Is a relation between the so called "bearer of light" or god of light, Lucifer, and Satan.

 Under a more symbolic view, Lucifer represents Light, Illumination, the consciousness that's aware of its own evolution an "sophistication", being the bearer for those who are in the path of evolution.
 Satan represents the EGO and the ability to use this Illumination/sophistication given by Lucifer to own "satisfaction" in the Earth, amidst people.  

 It seems very interesting that Satan, under this concept, has many faces that can incarnate in living people as being demons, so philosophical concepts can be seen as literal concepts in daily life.

HI Magical Mother

Well , you know about smocking and Chronic Bronchitis!!!

 You should try very seriously some breathing exercises plus the NEW (new energy ways) by Robert Bruce. I'm sure that this two practices will help you if you make them part of your daily life.

There is a short book of breathing exercises by Yoga Ramacharaka (free download) at this  link  
http://www.e-books4free.com/books/sp-rel/ScienceOfBreath.zip

  This are GREAT ones and I'm sure that they will help to heal your respiratory system, but you'll have to practice EVERY DAY.

  Also download New Energy Way by Robert Bruce
http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutorials/?BoardID=6

This will help to revitalize your immune system


   I'm absolutely sure that this two readings will help you get better but they are a daily practice so download them , print them down and start practicing.  Any doubts , questions, etc. you have this forum.

  Daidaluz

Hi      hehe


Potatis,   ¡¡¡   CONGRATULATIONS        

 Sometimes it happens to me that I feel something similar to butterflies and energy vibrations in my chest area while floating around.


  Next time, if you can deal with the fact that you're more aware of oobe and the always undesirable anxiety, try to get away from your body and take a look at your house.   ....it might be funny.

Yours    

It's possible to read symbols in auras of living people. The symbols are mind thoughts (permission from the person your reading). Psychic glimpses may happen too.

Hi Wisp,  can you read symbols in auras??  

I sense specific things in auras of living people, this happens to me every day more often but I'm not sure about what it is.  (As I said before I sense for energy and my mind creates an image, a spontaneous visualization of the specific energy I'm sensing for).

What I do is to test the validity of my sensing by creating a social  argument or so. ......And YES , I've discovered that reading auras of living people gives the ability to manipulate as well as to guide because you become aware of  the "inner fears" and inner desires that the other person have.  

Wisp , if you have the ability to read "symbols in auras" don't you think that it's probably a waste not to use it for any purpose; I've discovered a way to "deal with this symbols and make them change inside the aura"; I know so far two different ways, one with  permission , and the other without permission;  of course I don't like to manipulate but at the same time I love to learn..