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Thanks, that's great, I'll have a look at all resources.

Tough, I didn't mean only remote viewing, but that was only example I found.

Any experiments and test of any kind of this stuff will help. (AP or OOBE generally, LD, telekinsis, aura or anything similar)

Cheers

Can you point me to all experiments or tests about OOBE and scientific explanations and such.

I found this video for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnPQk2QXGzc

How many of you could do such thing?

Please note that I am not trying to convince myself in AP, I'm actually working on some project.

Thanks.

You accuse me that I'm the one who believes in everything that TV shows, and you post some classics. Yes, I can read Wikipedia, yes, I went to school, yes, I know what official theory is.
But that doesn't mean it is correct.

You can't prove that any fossil is millions years old. All dating methods include assumption that earth is millions years old, already. They are false. They are  not accurate. Evolution is just a religion.
Especially knowing that God created everything, I don't see a point of trusting blindly in evolution.

Micro-evolution is variations within a single kind. One offspring can never give a birth to another offspring. We never observed macro-evolution and there are no indications for it.
You can post any official example you can google, but trust me, I read them all already.
Opposite to that, we have many historical records of dinosaurs living together with people.

You're the one trusting media.

No, I know it's propaganda because they say it's science but it's just a religion, nothing scientific in it.

You are completely right, I believe Bible should be read literally.

Fossils proves that there are fossils. How do you know how old are they?

Sunday and Bible schools are pretty much western terms, we have ordinary schools where you have to study hard.

Meat damages our health, of course we shouldn't eat it. Two seeds on one land? Ask any country man, and he will tell you the same. One seed each year, every year different seed! Golden rule if you won't to grow up some culture.

I do trim my hear and beard, but maybe we're wrong doing that. How do you know? Samson has his strength in his hair. Just a myth? Maybe it was based on a real story. We are certainly degrading, not evolving. People used to be smarter, so I would listen to such advices.

Why would it be impossible? Several experiments are currently ongoing depicting macroevolution today.

We can't observe macro-evolution and we only assume it could happen. Everything else is propaganda and lies. If you just believe someone who dresses up as scientists, that's your problem. You shouldn't believe authorities. Believe in facts.

Bacterias are still bacterias. People eat different food as well. We are meant to eat vegetables, but we eat meat. But we are still humans.

You are making an error that creationism and evolution are mutually exclusive. They are not. If God created man, then evolution from simpler organisms is clearly the way it was done.

That just doesn't make sense, and Earth is clearly not millions of years old.

And how is that different from saying, "But that is just something you learned in Bible school"? And as far as I can see, there is no place in the Bible where it is declared that the diversity of life was not created via evolution. Can you show me some Bible verses that state this?

I have no idea what Bible school is.
Very first page, very first verse. It says that God created everything - space, matter, time, living things and everything. It also says that Earth is young and not millions years old. Do you think that evolution is possible in several thousands of years? If so, that's different.

I am puzzled by this. Earlier you state that science cannot provide experiments depicting evolution (which it in fact has, as referenced above), but now you are stating that there is in fact experimental evidence that evolution has not happened. Can you provide me with those studies? If all of modern science is saying this, surely there must be a few?

Again, Earth is clearly young, so evolution is not possible. You twisted my words a bit.

But that is something you just learned in school. There are no scientific experiments that could verify those assumptions. Actually, it's impossible to make empirical tests of such kind.
All the greatest scientists were creationists: Tesla, Newton, Einstein, Kepler, Faraday, Mendel, Pascal...All modern science  indicates that evolution is a fairy tale, and not much more of that.

To respond to your question where all the organisms came from; that's easy. We were created. God created us.

Well, had a long research on this topic and I don't believe in millions of years at all. Also, I don't think that micro-evolution leads to macro-evolution. Those are only assumptions, and a wrong ones.

I would have million questions now. May I?

I think I see the thought pattern you are using here. I think the problem is that you are extending the theory of evolution past the claims that it actually makes. Standard evolution does indeed posit that humans are the result of cumulative mutations adding up over time. In fact it doesn't say significantly more than that. It makes no claims, positively or negatively, about any spiritual aspect any being or organism may or may not possess. That is a different part of science and philosophy altogether.

Now while it is true that the majority of evolutionists hold the view you describe, it is not true that that view is part of evolutionary theory. It is an entirely different view called "reductive materialism". What reductive materialism states, is that all a human mind is, is in fact a product of the material world, namely the matter of brains; they reduce all concept of mind to material , in otherwords.

So most evolutionists are reductive materialists, but reductive materialism is not part of evolutionary theory. I can see why people associate the two, but they are in fact distinct viewpoints, neither of which really entails the other if you are honest.

Honestly I think Christians actually mean to take issue with reductive materialism, but don't know enough about the mind-body problem (to which it is one of the alternative answers), and many don't have the language terms to know what their actual target is. For what it is worth, the Christian perspective is generally thought of as a "Dualist" alternative solution, and the solution I support is called "Monism of Mind" (in Christian terminology, this would mean that I only posit the existence of soul/mind, and I think that matter is a kind of illusion created by mind).

Yes, many Catholic practices are very much like meditative practices, despite the viewpoint being different. Long form rosary prayer being one famous example, that will lead to some interesting experiences if practiced long enough.

Oh ok, you were referring to micro-evolution only. Mutations are fact, but something completely not clear to the science. I wouldn't say we can understand our origins using mutations.

Interesting theory about how everything non material is actually a product of material, but I don't think there is something to support that theory. Mind telling me more about your point of view?

Your views are clearly adequeate for you yourself, just in the same way as they were for me. So first of All, congratulations for comming up here looking for answers, trying to get the juice that is not there in textbooks and much less in mouths to deaf ears.

In my experience, I have wanted to change the way people view things too, but I found my perception of things wasn't always the absolute or ultimate opinion, and everyone possesed different subjective views based on what they had experienced so far regarding something specific, no matter how good hearted my intentions were.

It all cascaded, after 3 years of trying to understand, and I saw that I was questioning everything, but had not questioned myself first of all. If you really want to understand, you must adopt an open mind setting, so that information can be clearly held without any judgment from you, absolute answers might not come to you inmediatly. Why dont we figure out why we do what we do until much later in time? so I say, give time, and you shall get your answers if you pursue them yourself.

Definitely what I am doing right now. I got advices from people I think they are more experienced and intelligent than me, so I'm posting it here as I can hear some more opinions. Cheers.

@Kzaal

Well, we can't know what paradise could look like. Maybe it is what you described.

I totally agree with everything you wrote, and I think that same. But still, I can't prove they aren't right. See my point?

@Stillwater

You are a gap theorist I assume, because evolutionist wouldn't admit there is something such as AP. According to evolution, we are random mutations without anything spiritual.

I don't think they don't have experience with it. Almost every pope, at least in my country, would have a lot experience to share. Not that they practice AP like we do, but in some other way. All in all, AP is happening every night, sometimes we are aware, sometimes not, right? They can't run from it, they are just saying that we should be careful with all that entities.

What basis do they have to claim such things? Good question, but how can I show them they are possibly not right, that's my question.
Bible is not scientific book, it isn't there to teach us lab experiments.

I assume that there are no evolutionists here, since we all experienced something higher than that, something that proves there are higher entities and that we are not only flesh and bones.

But, speaking with some wise Christians, I was judged doing AP. They said that all creatures I met in AP are demons. Even those that showed me love, or looked like someone familiar - was a demon.
I don't have  a way to disprove that, even I don't want to think they are right.

Also, I'm not sure if scripture tells us much about AP.

Tesla said something like: "I will make a machine, I will travel to space, and you won't see it, you won't know I am flying with it. It will be with my mind".
Something like that..

So I thought, we are expecting one day aliens to visit us with some ultra modern tech and perfect space shuttles..but instead, they could already be here, projected.

You just misunderstood the thread.

I know it's not scary to project. But if one projected is observing you, than that should be scary.

You mentioned yourself about hat med. experiment. How than that isn't scary?

And I don't mean "ghosts", I mean aliens.

Also, to be clear. I am into AP for several years know, you don't need to explain me who Monroe is

You just misunderstood the thread.

I know it's not scary to project. But if one projected is observing you, than that should be scary.

You mentioned yourself about hat med. experiment. How than that isn't scary?

And I don't mean "ghosts", I mean aliens.

Why would we be nonphysical?

And yeah, it would be scary if someone is spying to us right now, don't you think

First, I don't know if aliens really exists. And by aliens I mean race on other planet, not different entities.

But if we say they do, what do you think if they are projecting? And what can be scary, what if they are projected here right now?

I actually never thought about it until I heard a story of some woman which said that her dog always project with her.

Like she "pick" the dog with her into projection.

For long time I didn't had a pet, and now I have a cat, so I'm curious

Don't know if this is right place to ask, but I was wondering if someone knows do animals project.

And, can they affect our projecting (inmental aspect).

I would love to experience it again, and talk to it
That's one of my biggest motives to practice AP at the moment.
Well, but who wouldn't be scared first time, right ? ehehe

I would like to share one of my experiences, so here it goes.

I was just went to sleep, and I was in bed for 5 minutes, not more. I didn't do any exercise or anything, I was just trying to fall asleep...anyways, in that moment I have experienced one of the best things in my spiritual life.
I saw a big insect moving on my blanket. It wasn't so huge, but enough big that I know it's not 'real' and enough big to scare me.
My vision was absolutely vivid and realistic so in the second I doubted is it real. The insect looked like a big ant.
I jumped from my bed, but after my first move I was again laying on the bed as earlier, like I had just woke up from a dream, and my insect visitor has gone.
Well, that's it

No theory it was a dream, because, I couldn't fall asleep for time how much I was in the bed. Also, I have lot of problems to fall asleep, and hardly I could had a dream in which i was laying in my bed as common, watching my room from same perspective as I do in the real...
It wasn't real too, so could that be a projection? And how that alien came to my room and do you have any idea what was it?
Is it common, and how often you meet similar entities, if that was a projection at all?

Thank you madam, I will give it a try

I didn't wanted to start this topic at first, and I don't like people who start these ones generally, but I am afraid of loosing motivation until I start some constructive work on my projections, so I would appreciate any help with this one.

I am the beginner, but not totally. I worked some good time on my dreams, had plenty of lucid dreams, I used to practice meditation, proudly managed to do psychokinesis couple of times, I am experienced in seeing auras and  I had few spontaneous, interesting projections, and also some other spiritual experiences...
As some other obligations stopped me continue improving myself, I haven't practiced anything in past few years. Earlier I was a "freelancer". I wasn't doing in continuity, but time to time, and just exercises that I liked to do.
As time past fast, it's high time to undertake something, and I want this time to start detailed.

I am familiar with astral basics, I read lot about it, and as I mentioned already, I had some experience with it. Now, I would like you to tell me where should I start with. Should I take some course, or books, or just keep practicing general exercises, or how? Thanks in advance.

[Cherries]

One more from me:

Cherries

Reiter recently put some hard science behind the cherry folklore. He conducted a five-month study and found that tart cherries contain significant amounts of melatonin — a hormone produced in the brain's pineal gland that has been credited with slowing the aging process, and fighting insomnia and jet lag. It's also being studied as a potential treatment for cancer, depression and other diseases and disorders.

Oats, Sweet Corn & Rice

Oats, sweet corn and rice are the best foods to eat for melatonin. These foods contain between 1,000 and 1,800 picograms (1,000,000 picograms = 1 milligram) of melatonin per gram.
In the oats family, eat oatmeal, cereals containing oats, nature bars, oatmeal cookies and oat bread. Sweet corn is available in can or frozen form or fresh from your local grocery store or farmer's market. Rice, both white and brown, is available at local grocery store.

Ginger & Barley

Ginger and barley both have a small amount of the hormone present. Ginger has about 500 picograms per gram of melatonin, and barley has minute amounts.
Ginger root and ground ginger are found in most local grocery and health food stores. To find barley, visit your grocery store's soup aisle or a local health food store.

Tomatoes, Bananas & Radishes

Tomatoes, bananas and Japanese radishes (the stem and leaves combined) also contain small amounts of melatonin. All three foods have around 500 picograms per gram of melatonin in each one. These foods also can be found at your local farmer's market or grocery store. Try to buy fresh if you can.

Fruits & Vegetables

Several other fruits and vegetables also contain minute amounts melatonin, including pineapples, apples, oranges, strawberries, kiwifruits, peppers and spinach. Try to buy fresh fruits and vegetables. Also, try to consume the them within one week of purchase.
You can prepare melatonin-rich meals using several foods containing a small amount of melatonin.

Almonds & Seeds

Other foods that contain melatonin include almonds, pimpinella peregrina (the dried root), sunflower seeds, fennel seeds, lemon verbena (the young plant), balm mint (the young plant) and green cardamom seeds. Most seeds can be found at your local health food store and some farmer's markets.

Yeah, I think that is the one. Thank you, you're the man 

Sorry if this is already posted ( I doubt it's not). I hope you will tolerate a new member here because of that :p
I actually tried searching for it, but couldn't find it.

My closest experience was with this technique, but I forgot it.
It was about feeling the pulse in whole body stronger and stronger until the astral body flies out. If I remember well, I think I read it in Bruce's books..anybody know what I am talking about? Thanks in advance.