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Ronk, I have always wanted to go into what used to be called isolation tanks, think tanks, and now floatation tanks.

Dr Lilly was a pioneer and probably way ahead of his time. Not only was the movie Altered States based on his work but the book Altered States that Paddy Cheyevsky wrote that the movie was an adaptation of was basedon his work but also the movie Day of the Dolphin, was based on his work.

The theory behind the tank is that you remove all external stimuli (to include prssure from a cushy chair, gopherboy455) so that there is nothing connecting you to the real world once the tank is closed. They used to use a magnesium sulfate, epsom salts, solution to create maximum bouancy and the temperature was kept at external body temperature so that, again, you didn't feel it. What this is supposed to do and does is induce the mind to create its own stimuli.

To me that would be equivalent of exploring the universes within yourself. What an exploration that would be, eh? [8D]

If anyone would like to know more about Dr. Lilly's work, here is his home page.

http://www.johnclilly.com/

It really is love of the silly thing. Some people have their invisible friends...I have my pendulum...it thoroughly enjoyed going to Hungary with me last month.

One more thing about my penulum and then I'll go back to the subject and please forgive me for having gone tangental...I eventually get back []

When I exercise with my pendulum, I get the distinct impression of a feeling from it akin to the feeling of a child when they are on a swing being pushed by an adult. It's kind of like a "Weeeeeee...Higher! Higher!" thing. It gives me kind of a warm fuzzy feeling...of course it could end up being a baby demon possessing it and boy when it grows up am I in trouble...LOL

As for divination, I use both runes and cards...they seem to work best for me...though I went through a period at the beginning of the year where I couldn't get anything out of either runes or cards except that they were all in a fluster about deceit and deception with no real clarity to them. It was okay when I was reading for someon else, but if I asked anything from them for me...everything said deceit...deception...no matter what I asked. I still don't know what it they were talking about...I'm sure I'll find out eventually, but they've stopped talking about it now. Either they figure that since I'm not listening anyway what's the point or I seem to have dodged a bullet.

For both the runes and the cards I like using the Norns...having born on a Saturday, I feel closest to the three sisters. I've come up with my own way of doing it for the cards. After shuffling them, I cut them into three piles and turn over the top card in each pile...is a very simple little thing but then, I don't do this for anyone but myself and very close friends and I ultimately believe in the KISS principle.

There, see, wantsumrice, I got back on to the subject of divination, just as I promised...[]

For those of you interested...

You might try this web site as an alternative to the holosync CD's. They're a bit less expensive being $13.00 for each CD.

http://www.irfs.com/audiocds.htm

This is also a very good site with lots of resources.

http://web-us.com/binaural.htm

and their products list and pricing - a little bit more expensive but still not as bad as Holosync. They also offer cassette tapes.

http://web-us.com/productlist.htm

And then for those of you that are better at computer "stuff" than I am there's this site with a program in which you can generate your own binaurals. It also has links to support groups and a forum.

http://uazu.net/sbagen/

*sigh* Unfortunately I do not have the knowledge base to be able to use it.

Oh, btw...if you need a good download accelerator then I suggest DAP by speedbit...you can run downloads through several sites at once which helps speed up the downloading. I was using their freeware version for so long that I finally broke down and purchased their premium softwaare, but you don't have to. Sorry for the plug, but I remember what it was like to have a dial up modem and to have to wait long periods of time for downloads...this helps a little bit

http://www.speedbit.com/DAP7/Default.asp

If anyone finds that last offensive please let me know and I will remove it.

Hope all the rest helps everyone who is interested in the subject.

Hi to the both of you. Am very new here...this is my first post and I haven't really lurked about to see how things go here but I wanted to say something about my the relationship between my pendulum and I.

I can't do any "real" pendulum work because of the ease with which I can affect it's movement. It's kind of funny really. I just give it a "push" and it pretty much goes wherever I want. So that is what I use it for...to exercise that part of my mind so to speak. The thing is, there are days when it wants to play and days when it doesn't and I have to be extra specially careful to ask it ahead of time if it would like to work with me. If I don't, then it gets po'd and won't cooperate in the least. *sigh*

The strangest thing about it, is that when I went to the store to purchase a pendulum out of all the ones that I asked if they wanted to come home with me, this one almost jumped off the display...it was wriggling with excitement...so maybe it was meant to be like this for me...maybe that's what it's purpose is for me...to help me exercise.

I'm curious if anyone else has had this kind of "relationship" with their pendulum - as though it were alive. And yes, I do believe that everything has a spirit. []