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Like most people in the west, I used to imagine that meditation involved sitting in a lotus position, eyes closed, chanting OM and waiting for something to happen. As I started to meditate in my mid to late teens, I eventually developed my own type of system. Having said that, I'm sure that there are flaws in my system when viewed from a real yogi or monk high in the Himalayas who has truly transcended the earthy physical plane.

But recently I've been thinking about our modern society. In this day and age we have smart-phone consciousness and only a few seconds it takes us to check emails, SMS messages, facebook, etc. Our focus is continuously demanded by 100 things at once, all the time. Now take for example Vyasa's India of 5,000 years ago.  I've been to rural India and deep in the village life, not much goes on. Occasionally an Ox cart may come by at 1.5 MPH, bells clanking. Now think about the origin of the traditional forms of Yoga and meditation as laid down by Vyasa and others. While these methods still work, there are a lot more impediments to getting there if you are also trying to live a life in the world. I would also argue that our neurological pathways are wired differently because of all the technology around us. So, having said that, I feel that for myself at least, that I also can embrace technological advances such as Mindwave glasses, Hemi-sync, etc. in order to assist in getting into a meditative state. Do a search on Youtube for Bineural beats and you'll find a ton of things out there. Some may be better than others.

Plain Jane Meditation I still do, but I always find it helps to have some sort of music or frequency inducing thing going on. If you haven't heard of him, Jonathan Goldman has a ton of wonderful albums which I find induce meditative states within me. He also has an album called Vocal Tuning the Chakras. Here's a preview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8kwc1lkiAQ

Anyway, best of luck
Chas688

Why does this happen? I am totally familiar with the lack of control in dream based projections because you are starting from a lower level of awareness. I thought that a conscious projection didn't suffer this problem because you are starting at waking awareness.

Most of my experiences seem to slip into a dream-like state the further away from my (physical) body I go. This may be just me, but I find it difficult to maintain the fully waking consciousness too far from my body. I have heard of the dangers of using labels recently on this board and in other places and that is good advice, but at the time, I didn't have that advice and I thought I was failing due to the fully conscious slipping into a dream-like state. I have also tried "Clarity Now" when I have started to fuzz out and sometimes it has worked and sometimes it hasn't. I think for me, I need to hang around longer in the RTZ, but like the x-box guy stated, he somehow ends up out the door down a dirt road, it is hard to find anything in the RTZ to pique my interest. Maybe that's where the LEDs come in, lol. But in all seriousness, I need to focus on more discipline, more left-brain discrimination and try to employ some more logic in any experience I may have in the future.

@Szaxx - I'm going to try that. Good idea.

Chas688

Perhaps you're right, the light appears only menacing once I am returning or in the process of returning to the physical. I haven't considered fear with this since a green light is indicative of "all systems go" in my book. The alarm clocks which are red and LED do this too. Incandescent light does not have the same frequency as these LED lights. I would encourage anyone who can do so to try to take a look at an LED while out of their body, if they can remember to do it.

All of my conscious projections have been very difficult if not impossible to control. I once in the RTZ was looking at my body, hands, etc and there were a ton of color sparkles swimming around and (my?) a voice told me, "The etheric body is an unbridled horse." I certainly believe that to be true now because every time I have had a conscious projection, I tend to have to follow my will-of-the-wisp, not what I planned to do in the physical. There certainly is a higher guide, though, throughout the process who chimes in once in a while. And by guide, I don't mean in the "go ask your guides" kind of way, though I believe there is that too. What it is more is like a voice of much higher reason within who chimes in once and again during these experiences.

So what these LED lights mean, I don't know. Maybe I have some subconscious abduction issues or something.

Chas688

Occasionally, I will become conscious while still out of my body. Usually this is floating quite close 1-2 feet away from the ceiling. The first thing while in this state that will catch my attention is the LED Green Light from the Smoke Alarm. This has happened several times and 75% of the time the light appears to me as an eye or something with very bad intent. I interpret this while out of my physical as very menacing energy. I've gone ahead and taped up the green light with some black electrical tape, but there is some green light behind the alarm itself that seeps through, causing the same effect.

My question is, what is anyone else's experience with Light Emitting Diode (LED) lights while not in the physical? Do colors make a difference? Alarm clocks (espcially red ones) cause the same effect for me, so I have to disable them.

Thanks, All!

I feel your frustration. If I get too close, I'm back in and if I go too far, I seem to drift off into a dream state. Not too long ago, I actually made it out the front door. I went through it and on the other side, my woods outside were not how they are now, it was more tropical with very broad leafed plants growing. My astral self said or I was thinking / realizing that what I was looking at was the pre-ambrian era. Then, I didn't remebrr the rest, it became a dream. I looked it up online the pre ambrian and came the closest with precambrian, which was 280 million years ago. Now how I got there just by pushing through my front door, ill never know. Keep up with it, ill do the same.

Authority is directly proportional to responsibility. The more authority one has, the greater the responsibility there is to attend to it wisely, I believe.

I don't think that is possible. Once your body is fully dead for days or cremated. All connections would be broken I think. As far as I am concerned when people have an NDE they are really just astral projecting. But once the body FULLY dies, all connection is lost. That is what I believe. I'm almost positive I am right on this.

I totally agree - I should have been more specific - I thought the question was pertaining to while in a healthy state, projecting and then how would they know that projecting wouldn't cause their death - that they wouldn't be able to get back by some sort of accident. But you're right - death is the cessation of connection with the physical body and trying to return after death would be regressive.

Actually, if I misread the question, Michael Newton did some great research on lives between lives and his best seller can be found here http://www.amazon.com/Journey-Souls-Studies-Between-Lives/dp/1567184855/ref=lp_B000APC05I_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334533108&sr=1-1

Chas688

The question to ask is, How do I navigate my (emotional body) mind without the grounding of my physical brain? I've found that logic does not exactly bode well while out of the body - logical computations don't seem as possible like we're used to by our physical brain. Everything is intuition and knowing. For me, thinking about this today, I have never had an experience out of body where I set up some sort of logical type thinking. Perhaps some of those out there have...

Fear is the greatest barrier to getting out of your body. Your very relevant question has just scratched the surface of going through that process. I still go through it. Letting go, hearing hypnogogic sounds, all of it still gets to me and prevents a conscious projection.

As far as dying is concerned, no matter where in the universe or astral plane you journey to, you will always be able to instantly get back into your body. In fact, the mere thinking about your body will put you right back in. In fact, if you read through a lot of the posts here, you'll find more and more people wanting to know how to extend their experience and not get pulled back to the physical.

You have helpers even now. They will help you. I have a saint as a guide who will sometimes laugh at me and call me a child, but help nonetheless. Sometimes I feel like we are all just learning to walk, in a way. At least, having seen my 2 kids go through that, I often wondered if that is how I appear to those who have transcended this physical plane.

Chas688