Messages

is it possible to extract energy from other people's chakras
A friend told me that he is learning energy leaching from other people's chakras and that he can also see chakras and auras.
I am not sure what to think of it but it sounds interesting .
Is there anyone that has any experience with this phenomena ?

I have yet to archieve a full astral projection but I do have the Vibrations most of the time .
I really enjoy them because It is a feeling that can not be induced by antything but meditation.
The furthest that I have ever In obe was after a lot of vibrations the feeling of floating in a sea with my temperature fluctuating it was the best feeling I have ever experienced and I am still trying to reach it again .

PS that was when this year when I just became 16

Above and beyond

This morning I was reading a dutch science magazine wich statet that the
excistence of 7 dimensions was mathematically predicted.
This was great news for me because I am an atheist I don't believe anything
unless it has been proven ,

Many meditating people talk about athmic dimensions etc. this could just
support that theory.
It also stated that all the dimensions are happening at once but only the
lower ones  that we experience right now have time .
My theory is this : "When all 7 dimensions happen at once then I am in 7
dimensions right now but when I meditate I forget about my body and this
entire physical dimension  and I begin to focus on my mind ,my mind is in
several dimensions at once but when focussing on the mind
and when forgetting about this dimension one will eventually focus on its
self in another dimension and "slide" into it this could be astral projection.

for instance If I should meditate right now I will eventually forget about
my body and I will not feel it anymore unless using Bodily awareness ,after
a while I will get into the astral dimensions because I am only focussing on
myself and not on this place/dimension .

I hope you guys can make up what I am trying to say.

Is there anyone else that also has Ideas like this one ,if so please share

them because i am very interested

I am also looking for this magazine as a text file so that I can translate it in english for you non Dutch guys ,it  is written in the dutch KIJK magazine december 2000 issue

last night I was meditating
I started with tensing of the muscles
and then i started doing breath control for a while
I use different techniques to descend in my mind to a trance
one is visualising a white cone above me with a number  the number
being the amout of breaths i had taken,  and another is visualising a ladder
after doing that for like 20 minutes i started the rope technique I personly
imagine a ladder that I am climbing on and during this process I got a strange
feeling ,I felt like being in the sea with warm parts and cold parts floating
by ,and my body was quite numb my heartrate went up to the point of feeling a loud
beating in my head and I was quite scared because I have never experienced something like this
can somebody PLEASE TELL ME WHAT I EXPERIENCED  
was it a deep trance or an OBE i am 16 years old an live in Holland
so english is not my native language please excuse me for the lack of grammar.

PS does that mr Robert Bruce read the forums ?

He also said that he energy leached someone who was not aware of him and he said he got sick and started vomiting .
the victim did not have any experience in meditation let alone chakra work .
and I was wondering : if someone has never trained on his chakras
can that person  actually notice that his body is  acting "weird" or does one need special training for it .

Also is there anyone else here that can see chakras and aura's ?

I have also felt these vibrations and I it is the farthest that I have come so far.
I also still feel myself breathing during the vibrations and I was wondering how should I handle the vibrations should I focus on them or ignore them ?

That sounds very interesting can someone tell me were I can get info on Monroe's books because I have never heard from them (newbie)

I am not sure if I have ever reached trance state.
I think so because after descending  and counting my breaths for about 20 minute I do not feel my body I cannot feel my legs or the position that they are in I also get very concentratet and silent I hardly have any surface thouhts at that point I only concentrate on my body and the odd feelings that I experience . It is great fun

I used to have some sleeping problems I was not restfull enough to get to sleep.

But now I have 2 ways of  meditating one is about reaching obe or at least come as close as possible and the other is to fall asleep in a nice way.

When I try to reach  Obe I am most succesfull around 22:00 when it is quiet around me and I still have alot of energy .

when I try to reach sleep I just meditate when it is very late 1:00+
and most of the time it happens by itsself , if not I can just stop the action that I am doing then like Rope or Ascend and just concentrate on sleeping.
works all the time

Yea that feeling is great I have it a lot too
The cool thing is that it can't go wrong it it just always works.
One of the things I like the most about meditating so far is the diferent feelings that occur after a short while , I really enjoy it when I feel my body go numb .

I am not saying that all the crop circles are hoaxes.
I think there must have been an event that started it all extraterrestrial or not .
I personly believe in "Aliens" ,lifeforms that are not from this planet but I don't believe that we are being visited by them at this moment ,nor that they want to have anything to do with us.

And we must not forget Project Aurora , a special new aircraft that is being developed by
the American "http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3993/interp.html">Skunk Works factory they are developing High tech airplanes that wil see service in about 25 years .

The reason why I am so sceptic about Crop circles is because it often happens to people that are in lower financial situations and media attention can be a huge increasement in you bank account.

thanks for the url Ashfo
it is a nice article I will read it completely when I get some free time I have my graduate exams this week so I will get back to studying right now .

Antagonist

The excistence of other dimensions is not only Albert Einstein's life work but it could also prove to be one of the greatest discoveries in the history of human species
if these theories are right it could mean that there is not only our infinite space to explore but also 7 more dimensions .
To baldly go were no man has ever gone before?

I think that there must be other ways to get into other dimensions .
Like Black Holes but we are far from inventing that kind of techniques.

ow yea alfa_33au  I hate to spoil it for you but crop circles are all fakes there is a bunch of guys that are making them and it has become a kind of art,
have you never wondered why they often appeared in the shape of
comic characters and Michey Mouse heads ?

you also  stated that :"mankind operates on a Base 10 mathematics and discoveries are calculated this way."
this is not completely true because it doesn't matter how you calculate discoveries the total will  always be the same it is just the way of writing it down.

humanity has always used several mathematic systems like computers use the Binary System and the the Romans used a mathematics system that was not even based on a base number .

Antagonist

astral projection or remote viewing as it has been called
has been used a lot in the cold war by both the Americans and
the Russians to discover hidden bunkers.

The numb feeling was very odd I can only compare it to a dentist anesthetic but then in my entire body because I don't move during meditation i can't really say if I was unable to move but my limbs felt very odd.
After about 15 seconds I started to come out of it and amazed/scared as I was I just jumped up out of bed and was fully awake.

I don't do much with  Chakras I do imagine that I am focussing the energy around me into my body. but apperently I can handle it well enough for this oobe (or the beginning at least)      to happen.

one of the biggest reasons why it was scary was because I have only been meditating for 2 months now and I never experienced a real  feeling of something new happening to me.
I only used meditation for relaxation and at first didn't really believe in terms like astral projection but this experience has made me very curious and now I want to explore.

It has shown me that my body and mind are capable of doing these great things and  I will do it a lot more now.