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I'm guessing LD = Lucid dream.

The other night I saw the ideoretinal lights (mentioned in Don DeGracia's course) behind my closed eyes for the first time, guess they come before hypnogogic imagery. It looked like so many small yellow stars.. very pretty. Anyhow, my eyes started moving around trying to focus on them.. I tried to relax but they wouldn't stop, and then my right eyelid popped open! Tried to shut it quickly and relax again, but the lights faded. Grr. This happens a lot to me when I try to just "watch" the blackness behind my eyelids and my eyes just force themselves to open, and is quite distracting.

I've thought about getting one of those sleeping masks to help prevent this, but I'm not sure how well it would work. Sure wouldn't help in your situation, Maven.. guess maybe relaxing more might help us both, but it sure is hard to get those eyes to stay still!