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I would like to know if any people that are pretty experienced at OBE - have participated in the Gateway Voyage and had any benefits from it?

I am not very experienced, but OBE on a regular basis now - and was considering to try out that program there.

Or would just the Wave CD's do pretty much the same?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,
TDD

Initially wanted to post this in the "Fasting" thread yet then decided that it makes more sense to post this for everyone - not just people interested in fasting.

Here are images of food, hands etc taken with Kirlian Photography - thereby showing the energy surrounding those things.

http://www.synergy-co.com/pages/kirlianphotos.html#image%201-5

Giving the saying "You are what you eat".. a whole new meaning..

Love and light,
TDD


EDIT: of course ignore the products he is trying to push - just meant the actual images and descriptions next to them.

There are also lots of other good sites outthere with Kirlian Photography.

Hi Everyone.

I have had quite a few OBE experiences over the years (starting in my choldhood) that I realized fell basically into 2 very different categories. I would appreciate some feedback in regards to the differences and the reasons for those differences from people more experieced with the different states.

Type1
- Usually happens from within a lucid dream. Or upon meditating with an exit technique nad then just rolling over to sleep.
I realize that iam lucid. And focus on seperating from my body. Feel a spinning and strong stretching sensation and find myself rolling out of my body onto the floor next to my bed. Then walk around in my house which is similar to my house on the inside - yet has totaly different views on the outside. Usually fly out the window and start exploring the environment. Oftentimes when I want to fly somewere iI feel someone carrying me there by holding me under my shoulders. When I get pulled back into my body there are no entry sensations whatsoever - I just open my eyes and get up to write down what I experienced. On one very itnteresting occasiosion I was able to get that rolling out of body sensation just by focusing on the blackness in front of my eyes as I was going to bed in the evening and suddenly the sensation of turning within my body appeared on its own and I slowly rotated out of my body.

In this state I ususally see only very foggy images or nothing at all until I just tell myself that I can see, or pull off my physical glasses, or ask for clarity and awareness. A few times I opened my eyes and was able to see a lot better - yet usually I did not want to open my eyes since I was worried my physical eyes would open.

Interesting observations to this type include that on several occasions I was not able to obtain any vision by asking for clarity etc - and then just forced my eyes open to see better - which immediately brought me back to my body which I found was paralyzed - very surprised -  I tested if I am in my astral body or not by waving my hands in front of my eyes - I would feel the weaving but would not see my hands - I then tried putting my hand through the floor - and it went through the floor effortlessly - I then tried leaving my body - but felt completely glued to it and was only able to lift my head out a few inches.. then eventyally the paralysis faded away and I was able to move my physical body.

Type2
- Usually happens when I wake up multiple times at night in a short period of time, and feel a big heaviness in my head.
If I roll over to my side with that heavy feeling - I immediately feel a tremendous falling sensation, start hearing a very loud wind type noise in my ears - and after a few seconds start hearing electric static type noise and then loud voices and noises.. aftera little while I see through my closed eyelids an identical copy of my room and start also ocasionally seeing some semi transparent forms rushing towards me (most of the time all those sensations combined overwhelm me and I force myself with great effort to pull out of this - yet several times I was able to get then out of my body into an environment that resembled the "real world" much more then the Type1 experiences. I also never see any blackness - but immediately see the environment that I am in very acurately - including the outside environment that is always different in Type1


The questions that I have are:

1) What do you guys think are the primary differences between type1 and type2?
I used to write Type1 off as very vivid lucid dreams and thought only Type2 to be OBE's - yet after I was able to spin out of my body without any lapse in my awareness by just focusing on the black space as well as seing my room with my physical eyes but moving my astral hand through the floor - I do believe that those are OBE's - I read in one of Franks posts an interesting note in tregards to all LD's being OBE's and that it is just a matter of awareness

2) Why the severe auditory, visual and physical sensations in Type2, yet total absence thereof in Type1?

3) Why the drastic differences in
a) the environment outside my house (outside doors and windows) as well as more pronounced differences within the house (in Type1 there are often additional rooms that are not there in the waking world nor in type2)
b) Various weird looking .. very real appearing "entities" in my bedroom with Type2

Appreciate any feedback and advice.

Love and light,
TDD

quote:Originally posted by Ahmad

I know its possible to use the high pitch buzzing/whining to separate from your body by increasing the volume of it until you feel like separating.

Anyway i noticed that its hard to increase the volume unless your very relaxed. Anyway when i listen to it or "BUILTIN: The Awakened Mind" from BrainWave Generator that i start to sway back and forth about 1-3mm, and i can't stop that from happening.

Question: Has anyone here used the high pitch sound to "pop out"?

Question: Why is it that im swaying?

Its your astral body that is moving. You could incrfease the swaying sensation and separate through that.

High pitched sound is one of many possible seperation sensations.
As for using it specifically to popout - I noticed that you can use almost any internal or external focus target to reach the point of seperation ... seperation happens almost on its own if you focus on something to the exclusion of all the other weird sensations that you will start feeling as you fall into deep trance and then separate.

Love & Light,
TDD

quote:Originally posted by schoolofconflict

to TDD:
You say you regularly OBE now.  Can you tell me what made it possible for you?  Haven't been successful.
Thanks for your time
Gloria

Affirmations that I am more than my physical body.. really beliving that I am more.. having worked alot on just visualizations.. and then just consistency.. I meditate on staying awawre everytime I go to bed at night.. and wake myself everyday at 3-4am (without alarm clock) - and meditate on staying aware every morning.

Its not in the techniques.. its in your level of motivation.. desire.. and the degree to which you are willing to let go of limiting believes that hold you back in life and OBE.

Hope that helps,
TDD

quote:Originally posted by michael

Hi Theodore ..Good..hoped you enjoyed..would like to read about your experience if you feel inclined..they are a very friendly bunch and I particularly enjoyed the chat with Joe Mcmoneagle..one afternoon he spent two hours or so chatting to some of us about his obe's etc..worth the trip alone..regards..michael

Will definitely share my experience - just need a few days digesting it Came back just a day ago.

Definitely awesome experience and plan to take their Lifeline program next year.

Best,
TDD

Hi Michael,

Thanks for the feedback.

I had ultimately decided to go - and I am very glad I have done so!

Best,
Theodore

Indeed a neat question - and I would tend to agree with Astralspinner - "months to a light" Little "semi transparent "moths" looking for our light:)))

TDD

What seems contradictory to me is to delay the spiritual growth process by this highly artificial life style that most of the world has or is adopting:)

On a serious note - I think that hemi-sync allows us to balance our brain which used to happen naturally by living out in and more in tune and balance with nature.

As for "fast forwarding" - meditation while pronouncing the word OM.. or sounding a gong.. etc. - in essense accomplishes the same thing.. just not as efficiently as HS(IMO) - and is also "fast forward" compared to not doing anything:)

I have tried the brainwave generator.. and some of the Brain Sync (deep meditation & Sound Sleep) CD's - that are basically doing the same - and have found aside from assisting me in initially calming down from a hectic work day quicker then I usually do on my own - they bother me in anything related to OBE and just distract me. Yet have heard that they work great for others.
I did not try the Monroe Institue CD's though.

Just my 2 cents.

Best,
Theodore

quote:Originally posted by Frank


I read the info on the "beyondveg" site and, in the main, it serves as a prime example of how people can become seriously screwed from not following a natural eating regime.....
I have never eaten sugar in any quantity. If you do that, you get seriously screwed to the point where it becomes very difficult to get back on track.

Thought you would enjoy the site:)

That was my point exactly - that many many people have lived for SO long on very bad diets.. that they just cannot go back to soemthing totally natural and do well on it. It required years of dedication to cleansing and lots of unpleasant things along the way.. that many people just can't do given were they are today.

And you can't blame them - they will just need more time... inspiration.. etc.. and some may still not be ready. Everyone has their things to work out.

quote:Now this did make me laugh, and I quote: "just how the raw-food "experts" can claim to maintain weight, energy, and muscle on modest daily volumes of raw food"...

Yup thats a funny one:)

There is a swedish body builder (fdon't remember his name) who is a 100% fruitarian.

I think its that many people just cannot absorb nutrition from the raw foods due to their intestines being totally gunked up.

quote:But each year, as a race, we hit a new low to the extent where now I'm seriously beginning to wonder.

I call this a "healing crisis".. things have to get a lot worse before they can get better... IMO

Best,
TDD

Stephen,

Great post..

I for one prefer my apples organic with naturally occuring blemishes - and an occasional worm UNWAXED:) and not radiated:)

haha:)

quote:Originally posted by runlola



TDD,

like I said, I think some blood types have to eat meat but
I am not one of them. I haven't researched that. I still think
it hurts the planet the way it is today. I don't see many folks
going out to hunt & kill their own food. Fresh organic meat does
not compare to what the majority eats these days & that is what
hurts the planet IMO. You are not a bad person to me because of
what you eat, you may just have bad breath.

That is absolutely true.

"not bad because of bad breath" - LOL:) thats a good one  .. but even that they came up with how to masquerade and hide with all their fancy gums and mints and schmints and what not - doesn't stop the rotting though:)

Best,
TDD

Nay,

In my opinion that is all one should start with - focusing on how their actions impact the world.. and improving themselves.. and only then moving onto other people.. their immediate family.. friends.. then neighborhood.. town etc..

But nothing good comes from saying how bad the state of the world is.. and nothing good comes from blaming people .. or telling them that they are doing wrong.. everyone is on their own path and often is not ready to understand.. and the more you yell the more they will be sure that they are right and you are just nuts. No matter how wrong they are. All that happens is you drive youself crazy with worry focusing on the whole world.

Yet by living your life the best you can.. you can become an inspiration for others to do the same.. and they then can inspire others to do the same .. and THAT is what can truly change the world IMO. One person at the time - starting with always yourself.

Best,
TDD

Runlola,

I am aware of those numbers and facts. I probably did not make myself to clear in my post. I was not referring to excessive meat eating.. nor the support of that sick indsutry. I was referring to the fact that some people are just not able to absorb nutrition from plant based foods to well.. and may need to suplement their diet with some animal protein.. and that can happen by supporting local.. organic.. small coops.. ecologically low impact raised farm stock.. etc etc.. that there is nothing (in my opnion) with a small amount of animal protein added to ones diet if really needed.

Frank - neither do I believe that the earth is flat.. nor that there is no harm done by this industry.. nor that EVERYTHING isn't being done in great excess that is not at all needed for ones life.
I merely indicated that in my opinion the meat eating itself - is not the real problem and does not hurt the planet - and that in my opinion there is nothing wrong with it - should you be a person that just needs occasional animal protein. The discussion was not the industry.. just the meat eating itself. There should be no guilt.

no tv here for many years - so sorry no soaps:)

EDIT: here is a very good reference site written by a person who has been on just fruit for years.. then raw food for years.. and researched various vegan.. raw.. fruit diets for many years and looked past the idealism that some people take as a reason to go vegan/raw etc.- http://www.beyondveg.com/    

Best,
Theodore

Runlola,

While I made my own personal choice not to eat meat, and feel best on 100% raw fruits and vegetables - I do not believe that it "hurts the planet".. eating and being eaten was always part of this planet.. just that we "stopped being eaten" quite a qhile ago:))
I do believe however that it hurts the person eating it.

Soy is very very mucus forming and highly processed (when you buy soy based products in the supermarket) - I have seen lots of people that went vegeterian and started loading up on flour and soy based products - and looked and felt terrible:)  They kept justifying it by speaking of needing to transition still etc.. but they would just keep on feeling worse and worse from all that gunk in their system:)
No offense intended to people that do great on soy.. at some point if you are physically very very active.. it almost stops mattering what you eat since you will burn it up pretty much anyway (until you get a buildup of toxins and get sick) .. but why do it the hard way if there is food that is perfect for our system (raw plant based foods)

Best,
TDD

Hi Microtia,

Can't help you with your request - but I would suggest not focusing on your ears and just going out.. being yourself.. and meeting a nice girl that looks at you for the person you are - and not for what your ears are.

You will be surprised how many nice girls are outthere - once you open up and let other people open up to get to know them better.

Some people can't walk.. some can't talk.. some can't hear.. see.. this and that and a ton of other things.. yet they still are who they are.. no matter what their physical appearance currently may be.

Wishing you all the best,
TDD

Hi Tisha,

Yes, siince eating 100% raw and fasting, I noticed an increase in my ability to have OBE's.

Homepressed juice (aside from lots of sugar if you juice fruit) - has also an enormous amount of various vitamins and enzymes:) Mostof which die shortly after being juiced (exception being ones like vitamin C )

Best,
TDD

Frank,

The wasted feeling is normal and happens due to the toxins being dumped into the bloodstream within the first 72 hours.

After that the fast gets much easier.

36 hour fasts are very easy to acomplish by going to bed early - since the initial cravings for food and "wasted feelings" get the strongest in the late afternoon.

After having fasted on a regular basis for more than 3 years - I just feel great on my 36 hour fasts with nothing bothering me other then occasional lightheadedness when I work on something urgent.
It took me quite a bit of cleansing and 100% raw food to feel great from fasting. Its a long process after so many years of eating a de-naturalzied diet.

Tisha is right that Juicefasting might initially be more helpful since you wont experience strong cleaning reactions - especially on vegetable juice which nourishes more (fruit juice cleanses more) - yet I would strongly recommend drinking only "alive" fresh juiced juice out of organic fruits or veggies. While it does add some work - its day and night compared to bottled and/or processed juices.

Other things that make fasting much easier - are liver cleanses and colon cleanses ( to first get all the impacted mucus out of the intestines that has accumulated over many years - most people carry 10-20 LB just of that - even vegeterians) - I can PM you reference sites if interested.

Best,
TDD

Hi Frank,

You nailed it right on.

As for low bodyfat - I have almost no bodyfat to speak off - and fast on a regular basis for up to 10 days on only water with out any problems. What I have found is that I needed to stay physaically very active (not on the fast itself.. just in general) and do some kind of regular exercise in order to keep muscle tone even when fasting regularly. This has alowed me to gain weight (muslce) while being on 100% raw and fasting regularly for 36hours each week.. + 2 10 day fasts/cleanses a year.

EDIT: Adrian - even in a person that lives a healthy lifestyle - toxins accumulate just from the fact that the earth is not in a natural a state as it was lets say 100 yrs ago. At the same time even Plato and Socrates + numerous others - prescribed regular fasting for best health and well being.
A very interesting read is "Miracle of Fasting" by Braggs. Waht caught my eye in that one is the notion that you fast and cleanse..and stick to a diet.. until the point comes were your body naturally signals what it needs (mostly raw fruits and veggies) - and he would consume a few raw organic eggs every 5-7 years or so.. only to not touch any animal products for the next 6 years:) - I have been on 100% raw for only 2 years.. so cant speak to that yet:)) but makes a lot of sense.

Best,
TDD

quote:Originally posted by dru2

I think Type 2 OBE's occur when lying flat on your back during sleep (at any time) and it helps to be exhausted, so it can often occur during naps.

Can anyone else verify?  I know through some experiences, I can go through sleep paralysis within seconds of closing my eyes in some cases.

Thats pretty much the case yes. Waking yourself up in the middle of the night 20 times in 1 hour does the trick as well - but is pretty much also the same "exausted type feeling". Also happened when I was not sleeping for 28 hours and then laid down.

Yup pretty much you then get into sleep paralysis and vibrations within a few seconds:)

quote:Originally posted by Kazbadan

Water Fasting?

is that good?

I read in many places that we need to drink lots of water/fluids during the day and we will have plenty of benefits just for doing that, so... whats the idea about water fasting (this means "not drinking water" isnt it?)?

I dont drink water about 30 minutes ago and i am thirsty![]

Water fasting means drinking ONLY water:) Usually distilled water - a minimum of 4-6 liters per day. That combined with not ingesting anything else - is a very powerful way of cleaning and "flushing out" your system of toxins.

TDD

quote:Originally posted by Nemo

The reason I'm mentioning this is that the continuity of consciousness in the waking state seems to be maintained by a state of dissociation, where thoughts always refer to something else than what is immediately percieved. In dreams or projections, one seems to be swallowed by the perception, which tends to naturally lead to a dream state without a stable system of references that maintains continuity.

There could be a basis for reflection about how to maintain continuity in a projection or a lucid dream.

Hi Nemo,

Thats usually the problem "were thoughts refer to something else then what is immediately perceived" - all that brain chatter is the problem:)

quote:Originally posted by upstream

Now I know we are weird in the same way and you know, that's a good feeling. Your post was very inspiring, welcome again

>> Thanks.

quote:(Yes I read all Monroe books and read a lot of the threads onhere about the different stages) Yet why would both happen so quickly?

Do you mean that F21/22 happen too soon when you attempt to induce an OBE or do you wonder why those projections wasn't preeded by many years of Type2 experience?

Just for mere curiosity, I have a question: why had you marked Type1 experiences with #1 when your earlier and more real experiences comes from T2?

>> F21/22 would happen very quickly in both types... I labeled them this way since Type1 I achieve more often due to the fact that Type2 I often pull back due to freakiness:)

quote:And why do you think am I not able to induce Type2 myself

To say the truth, I didn't think about whether you can or cannot induce Type2 OBEs at will. All I know that it is very hard for me. It seems you yearn for this ability and I perfectly understand your reasons. For me, it has something to do with control.

>> Yes.

quote:(happens only when waking up and falling asleep multiple times in a row during a short time span) - yet was able to induce Type2 at will (even though I used to think that its only possible from within a Lucid Dream).

How do you induce it at will? I'm especially interested in your LD experiences with it.

>>  Type2 I "sort of" can induce at will.. by either
a) continously being woken up everty 2 minutes at night ... (so not really self-induced or under my control).
b) by inducing Type1 first.. and then flying for a long time until I start feeling strong vibrations.. and then feeling myself leaving my body again (still experimenting with this one more)

quote:For some reason the Type2 experiences do have a much "realer" feel to me then Type1 - and are much stronger in their effect on me then Type1.

Perhaps T2 consciousness has more thing to do with our feer based animal self than T1 consciousness? Direct
Download and more sharper memories and things like that?

>> Very likely .. plus maybe the mind finds it more logical to find everything as in the waking world and thus perceives it as "more real" i think.

quote:Seems like T1 consciousness is totally free from the fear of the dying organism. It's a clear and rational awareness spiced with some irrational insticts that work unnoticed in the background. They recalled after awakening only as weird visuals, like screens from nowhere. However, T1 consciousness could be more clear than those we accustomed to in our waking hours. At the same time, it has a "dreamy flick" that may do something with the impression about the eternal now.

>>>Yes. Although still strange that its harder to hold on to things in T1.

quote:.. why go through all the trouble though:) That would explain why I never see my body in Type1 yet always do in Type2

I'm aware a border at the root of T1 where weird things could happen. You can come back to your dream bedrom after the visuals are stabilized, increase your awareness and observing around without thoughts. Now you are in a state where T1 and T2 environments are meet. By doing some visual excercise you could see a body sleeping in your bed. Now I know this body is not the physical. It's even could move. Many times I swa myself leving this body, so I think it's a visual interpretation of my etheric double.

It's worth to note, that directly projecting into T1 is a lot more easyer than inducing T2. You mentioned that you know about the possibiliy to induce T2 from "lucid dreams." I'm very interested in your experiences, please let continue in PM.

>>oki

I think T1 (F21/F22) is simiar to LDs in the sense that they represent our most active brain states. I believe after reaching this state we we simply couldn't be more conscious by our brain. The brain capabilities for supporting cognition is reached its limit. We have to dissociate from the brain in order to project away from the here and now. This would results in the automatic and sychronous shut down of the cortex. This could be accomplished by two ways:

1. By means of a centipetal projection, zooming through a vortex that appear in the F21-superspace. I think this is the way of real astral projections, phasing from advanced lucid dreams. The shut down process should be done in a very brief time period or the brain remain in REM-sleep to decode informations that the projected double broadcast.

>>> aha makes sense

2. An another possibility is mimicing sleep and projecting from lucid dreams. Regarding my experiences with it T2 comes into view when I try to sleep in T1 with the intent to have a classic OBE. There is an another possibility by which we may could literally knock ourselfes out from this word. This is by inducing deep sleep within a lucid dream. Haven't tired yet but there is a guy from an another forum who claim he could induce NDEs by practicing trance induction in lucid dreams. He said, according to some yogis, there are 7 stages of sleep, and activity level of the brain in the deepest stege of NREM is only represent the 4th. He said also he has checked his EEG during the experience and it was flat. Very interesting. I need to make some experimentation with it and to bring home an EEG.

>>> Not sure it would go flat at any state of sleep:) - but yes thats what I meant ealier.. experimenting with inducing a deep trance from T1 after getting into T1 from a LD

But is has been proved by my experiences that we could do some very interesting things in lucid dreams by practicing meditation, trance and phasing techniques. The only requirement is a very high awareness that comparable those we have in waking. The reason could be that our body is already throwed out from the equation and our highly activated brain let us controll a more greater parts of our being.

quote:

quote: upstream (me) said: Surprisingly I couldn't fly in this regio (I use imagined threads to drag myself and orders) but have observed a heavy traffic beneath the dream pictures.

TDD: Interesting. I had that problem only a few times.. then I just stretched.. ie. I would just stretch my hands out to the place I wanted to go (would see my hands stretching for miles) - and then would just let go with my feet.. and snap to the new location. Somehow thats how I interprted Monroes IDENT thingy... now prefer ti over flying (when I remember it:))

Nice trick, I want it for myself! Now I could understand why I'm unable to fly and why I should stretch. Thank you for this idea.

I've read only the first RAM book. What is this "IDENT thingy"?

>>> IDENT is how Monroe would mark things.. and then just "stretch" to them.

You have said about guides:

quote:Just imagining them looking at us and going "dooh! open your "eyes"

Yeah it's very funny. I think they can see us in our transparent dream houses boxing and stretching our non existent limits, like walls, gravity. Not to mention the struggles with our upflaming sexuality that seems still based on our animal self.

>>> hahaha yeah.

quote:Entity attaching never happened

I'm sure it did happened. Something to try: got into T1 and go back to its T2 border, the place where you supposed to sleep. Now try to move through a narrow window. As you may have already found out, in the regio of stretching/zooming every windows is narrow. Anyways try to move through a windows with as quickly as you can and at the same time concentre on your back. If there is something installed into your energy field you would get aware of it at that position.

Three things could be happen: 1. nothing exceptional; 2. you would wake up because you torn the integrity of sensory experiences and you remain without visuals; 3. you would feel something on your back + an interesting thing I restrain in order to not influence your belief systems.


>>> aha .. could be.. my "entitiy " experience has always been more direct ..

quote:many times sensation would get to strong and I would snap back into my body.

Do you mean loosing control about zooming or speed wind like flying, having splitted off from the narrow line of security we call horizon, falling rapidly into one direction without any intermission and at the same time spinning like a top that just escaped from hell? Yeah that's F21.

>>> good to know thanks!

quote:Usually I feel like being stretched into all directions at once .. (after I request to go OBE from my LD) - and only after the stretching sensatin do I feel rolling motion.. sometimes the rolling just keeps on going without getting me out of my body - then I just sit up and get out of bed and get out that way.

Now thats very interesting. You feel some expansion before able to separate? I have never experienced anything like that yet it is totally consistent with the basic dynamics I suppose to work in the background. Or did you say that expansion is felt from LD (T1?) That makes sense.

>>> I feel the expansion in Type1 OBE - before separating.

quote:Never had any difficulties in flying there. Would just jump out the window with hands stretched in front of me and fly.

Flying at where? In regular lucid dreams I have no difficulties with flying albeit they have bacame rare. I have greatly enjoyed flying as I have been gone through many of its stages through the years. First I was practiced flying off and hovering, then was that swimming and flying like birds, the superman trick, rockets in my legs, directing my awareness, moving by "flight-threads", zooming, "sporas" and now...now if I would throw myself out a window I would most likely remain suspended in the air as a cloud.

Perhaps I should try that stretching. Could I imagine my hand in contact with something I didn't see at that moment? Or should I look on it? Perhaps your stretching is just my zooming? Hm... no. If I'd call it stretching than it couldn't be work like zooming, hehe.

>> I experience it as my hands feeling a stretching sensation.. and then me seeing s9omething semitransparent flying out of my hands.. and going really far.. then I just follow that and it snaps me to a new location like a rubber band:)

quote:I did not even loose track of my thoughts or images I focused on Like I usually do when I go to bed and am tired.

I'm sceptical about it. When I have studied some similar situations I've found that I was likely already asleep and just thought that I'm awake. We may call it false awakaning or more precisely false insomnia, or hallucinating the inability of falling sleep - a more common condition that most people would assume.

>>> I had those as well.. and this time it felt totally different.. plus everything took place from being not tired at all.. and getting into this within probably 20-30 minutes.. I am skeptical as well.. but this felt like nothing before.. ie. no dream imagery.. no feeling of being pulled into imagery etc.. just totally blank mind.. then this turning sensation.

quote:Haha yes.. my "astral" body was wearing glasses.. I pulled them off and was able to see great after that.. still makes me laugh.

I know this trick myself. I don't need to wear eye glasses but I used to enhance my sight by pulling off a couple of dark lensed one in a row. At first it was worked very well but later I found that the effect is temporal. I've also realised that while this trick is indeed not a miraculous one albeit work I need to use it as it is, a visual-symbolic equivalent of voicing my intent. Intent is what lead my brain into REM-sleep fom conscious NREM stages but it is accomplished through by a series of progressively more active states. However, at that time I was impatient and I did't know that this transition require a couple of minutes.

thanks for the great response.

Hi Tisha,

I have found that I have greatly improved my ability to relax deeply and remain aware by increasingly over the years,

a) addings lots of fresh vegetables and fruits to by diet.. evenutally transitioning to 100% raw/lliving foods

b) not drinking with my meals (dillutes stomach juices and makes digestion harder)

c) not eating after 5-6pm

d) water only fasting on a regular basis (gets much easier with time.. ) - currently each week for 36 hours.. and occasionally for 10 days

e) drinking plenty of fluids through out the day (that one in itself made a huge difference.

For iron juicing of raw beets and dark leafy gfreen vegetables does wonders. We used that during my wifes pregnancy every day and she had none of the unpleasant pregnancy symptoms that she had during her 1st pregnancy.

I think fasting improves our cell function.. cleans out any debris.. and thus allows for everything to function better thereby allowing us to relax deeper.. stay aware etc. At least in my experience.

I have also found that after the 3-4th day of fasting on water.. the fasting gets alot easier.. and I start having a much easier time with expanded states of conciousness.

I do have to add that a huge leap for me happneed also a few years ago when i just cut out all processed foods and preceeded any animal protein I ate with lots of fresh organic salad. As well as stopping to mix protein and starches - that are tremendously difficult to digest together.. since one requires alkaline and the other acid stomach juices to digest properly. Thus the food stays alot longer in your digestive system and tends to rot and your intestines start absorbing toxins from that rather then nutrients:) Being that its the basis for almost any diet (meat and potatoes) - it was a realy difficult transition for me. But made a huge difference.


Love & Light,
Theodore

quote:Originally posted by Rastus

I notice that his descriptions don't match his products [:O]  Although the bean sprouts looked 'good'

Haha.. Good catch Rastus. Did not read them in detail.. was just looking for a good example for the fasting thread:)

I saw raw food vs. cooked food kirlian pictures a while back in a book on raw food that tremendously impressed me..  

Now on raw/living foods for 2 years almost:)

TDD