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I'm looking into buying one of those techno gadgets (sound and light headware) for altering brainwaves and producing different states.  I basically want one that will do everythinfg from putting me to sleep, healing/cleariing/unblocking , and astral projection....  Prehaps one that is programmable via a PC interface as well.  Maybe software only? Proteus www.mindmodulations.com) looks ok but it doesnt say anything about OBE stimulation.   Can anyone recommend any specific products that covers the whole range of conciousness states.. i could spend up to a few hundred bucks here Im looking for something quality.
Thanks

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Hi all,

I want to have a fully concious projection.  I havn't projected much, lets say about 5 times.  I own and have read astral dynamics.  Il describe my projection i had about a week ago (the same experience roughly I have induced twice now in the space of a few weeks), and prehaps an expert out there can discern a problem in my approach! (or maybe it is that I have an approach that is the problem).  Ive read astral dynamics but yer I stil dont get it .  Before intending to sleep at nightI meditated for about 1 hour, until i reach quietish mind state.  I try to project once, think i have failed and continue to meditate, then I try to project again about 20 mintues later say.  When i say try to project, i mean i forcefully try to feel myself rising upwards in one big concentration spurt until I give up because I am not out of body.  Ok then im lying in bed, assuming id fall to sleep. And I enter a state of bliss about half an hour later, where I know who I am 100%.  This is my home, where I came from before coming to earth because this is ME i am not confused over who I am.  It is this 3rd dimension which is the confusing place!.  This lasts about half an hour, and kinda ends slowly, and I start getting astral experiences for about 5 seconds,so I ponder the possibility that I have projected.  For the next 8 hours I get these short bursts of astral dimension experience.  So i Know that i have definitely projected, no question about that (up to fifth, 3+2 projections = 5).  As normally I sleep bonking well after meditation, and this night i didnt sleep.  (ive done this twice in about 3 weeks, 2 no sleep nights, and the rest of my nights i sleep well).  My heart is stil throbbing all night workin overtime somethin chronic.  So yeah, I dont get my double(s) back until the next night when I fall to sleep or somethin cause it wouldnt friggin come back.
I am realy eager to experience all of what I done in these projections conciously.  My idea is to keep trance meditating (falling down and down and down) until the projection just happens.  Is this valid? Or can someone suggest what to do.   I am yet to be able to do this .  I always become too eager to project so I force it.  But it would be so much better to actually exit.

Also I have another theory about another experience I had.   This came to me when I was doin my dirty style split projections so I rekon I found it outside.  Pehaps someone can tell me if there is a flaw in this.  I was on meth amphetamine about 7 months ago (last time I have used it), and I did 2 or 3 hours of accelerated circular breathwork dont ask me why, I like pushin myself to the edge.  I then thought I was Jesus Christ through and tried to save the world... as u would.   This lasted about 1.5 weeks of 3 hours sleep.  So this was seemingly a projection of 1.5 weeks long, way beyond astral and higherself prehaps as far as one can go, as I knew I was the creator during this period.  However it was very crazy, my mind was trying to integrate TOO MUCH.  I got thrown in mental hospital and guinea pigged with all sorts of the latest and greatest anti spiritual medications.   So yeah I could say dont try this at home kids, but if you are going to experience this you will.  I hav learnt drugs are truely a dangerous ways of raising conicousness from this experience.  interesting anyway.

thanks for listenin
Adiraz

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Quite often when I have a few drinks and go to sleep I unusually wake up mid morning around the 4-5am mark and everything goes trippy and as I go back to sleep my dreams get semi lucid.  I try to project but that usually causes my physical to react and end the dreamy state.  I know what you mean but it doesnt go as far as OBE's for me []

hi...I had to temporarily assume the role of a messiah, before what I saw then to be the god of all things good (now i think it was my higher self) revealed itself to me for the first time via an incredible blissful energy pulse.  Even though I have this form spiritual 'proof' several times, I find myself quite often questioning whether reality is spiritual or not. This is of course my body and its mortality trying to confuse me.  Which inturn causes me to want more proof.  So like it happens with me; your body is tricking you to into needing proof for something that already is.   You may find this out which is why faith makes a good friend... just dont expect the frustration to stop it'll increase as your body realises it has a serious contender lol.SUX HUH[]

But I have an idea if your game... find a problem ... then ask for some distance work from Nita from AP [http://www.astralpulse.com/magick/nita/nita.htm] to fix you up.  I was quite impressed with what happened when she did some magic on me, like for one I saw a absolutely crystal clear beige eclipse set on black background in my 3rd eye sponaneously for like 15 seconds (my 3rd eye is generally more like a dirty fish tank), and had my first OBE in a dream. I can't do real OBE yet even after 2 years but i cant say i really work at it.  She was very powerful working parts of my energy body as well... and she was on the other side of the world.  I guess this would be the kind of proof you seem to be looking for.  Course I cant say you will get anything like what I experienced.  If you dont have any suitable problems try a search for free distance reiki atunements... Can't go wrong.

some questions need a little a brilliant mind to figure them out so i spend an afternoon on it, what I came up with basically was...

(1) a philosophers stone is included in the universal set
(2) its compliment, stoned philosopher must also exist
(3) A /\ B are mutually exclusive and substiantieted differential units thin the universal set of impressionable immersibility
(4) alchemy is a subset of all-chemies
(5) the set of all chemies includes marijuana
(6) a stoned philosopher is a philosopher + marijuana

realising that a stoned philosophers purpose is to define why he takes weed, that will take him a long time to find that reason.  the stone is just there to help him on his way to find that reason then the philosopher and his stone will be 1 and alchemy/allchemies can be removed from the universal set.

NO ALARMS AND NO SUPRISES PLEASE

thanks very much

ca va thats my only french

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hi, i just wanna put in a quick word of praise regarding the gym reiki Nybster is giving out.  i've had this problem where i keep cracking up for stupid reasons during gym routines which weakens the Will quite substatially.  I got gym reiki 1 the other day and now I can lift without this problem.  Ive been miraculously healed.  Ive also had 47 other reiki attunements all up $8,400 and can honestly say that nothing works half as well as gym reiki.  Now I can almost raise the Kundalini as well (seem y post in the kundalini thread)

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u might b rkight there yoki_h

i got Mobius hook line and sinker though by the looks of it

heres a good mantra to help clear the mind before doing real kundalini  - 'no problemo', and just before the raise, say in your mind 'hustalavista, baby'

adiraz

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sorry KP I didnt intend to mean i was just havin fun.. im certainly not skeptic at all about what u claim to do... all kinds of crazy excrement has happend in the last 20 months or so of my life... just sometimes for some reason i get this need to write stupid posts in these forums cuz i can, to fill in the time until i have some fo these higherlevel experiences...

adiraz

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With all this kundalini discussion, I feel it time to share the wisdom of my guru (see the post on brainwave altering devices for information on my guru).  

He has some great ideas about how to raise energy.  Kundalini is one of his favorites he often gets mystical experiences after raising the Kundalini.  

Ok, lets get to the point.  If your new with kundalini you should start with low energy.  Grab a light serpent (10kg for example), fully mummify it so its quite rigid.   Then you want to grab a couple more animals.  Keep them alive becuause you want to raise the energy.  Tame animal spirits will raise easier.  Gouge the snake into the animals so you have a kundalini vibrating at your desired rate (diff animals for diff vibrations and effects).  Put the complete appartus at your feet in front of you, the snake perpendicular to your lower leg bones.  Ok lets have a look at this metaphysically, you will be raising the kundalini from below your Base Chakra to above your Crown, passing the Pubic Chakra, Abdominal Chakra, Pecs Chakra, Trapz Chakra then the Gym Chakra then UP UP N AWAY.  
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So just clear your mind, bend over putting your awareness hands on the kundalini, keep a straight back (your not gunna be able to raise much in a wheel chair now are ya), and Lift, using the Will to Lift.  Focus on an image of my guru to gain some assistance from above - i mean theres not much chance that you wilul be raising more Kundalini in one Lift than my guru lets face it.  Once you have raised, just let go and let the kundalini fall again for a mystical experience.

adiraz

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g'day from wa

yeah, my mistake i just assumed you were all farmers out there, bein a farmer and all... ya know sometimes when ur out tendin yya sheep u forget about the city folk back home.  

... good to hear my guru paid a visit, he said he would.  hes been up to his materialising (the autographed book) again ay:?hope that didnt scare ya gran too much Nybster.  uve revealed the secret location of Gym Chakra i see, and hinted at the special ingreident contained to activate it, this should be enough to send aspiring guru's in the right direction.

well i wanna keep this one a shorty, im gonna encode the name of my guru on the line below, and then follow it up with a few of his spiritual works and a brief description of the wisdom contained within each.  all titles will help build SpiritualMuscular Growth.  Spirit and Muscle are synonimous its very hard to distinguish between the two such is the quality of my guru's polaric integration.

rnAold SChwaZchNigga733805

Commando - metaphoric examination of higherselve miscillaneous incarnations in bi polar schizophrenic hydroponic reality Z-frames.
Total Recall - has a brief overview of the internal workings of the higherself, caramel involvement on planet marsbar and cheesy lines and 3 breasted women lead to mass liberation
id also want to mention The Terminator series for those into astral travel, for a glimpse of future reality on earth..

over n out.

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g'day farmers

i was out on my guru's station right (a while bak in the days where the Universal Law of Law of Drunk Kanga's was still operating- when the governers still let the roo's in the pubs to drink with the boys)>...
i got some sheep out there, a whole field of em.. n i was out tendin them and i walkd out to where my black sheep was grazin away i onyl got one of these kind, yeah nice little sheep, didnt fit in tho so now i got a nice pair of black uggboost. only get moments of practical insight like this at my guru's station. ya know how its like? when ever i ask why he just points to his sultana prana-rana mix.  yeah so, id left all this broken sheep around the place but guru said nevermind about it, so we sweeped it all up n we musta eaten half a sheep each after a 3 hour gym sesh and talk about the gains, biceps the size of watermelons

nybster m8 your grandmas fruitcake sounds a bit like my guru's cereals.
as for the benchpress, nowadays he can move mountains of course ... but back in the day, i think it was somethin like 4 times his body weight? is that a big lift or what im not too sure? as for the recipe i cant get the recipe myself, my guru said if i had it id probably boil my blood.  but i found ya gran's address so he'l drop by one day (astral body of course) for an exchange of recipe. u might have to ask gran for it.  

Tom theres some polaroid sunglass's which are suposed to take the reflection off the water u might wanna chek them out. i was just tryin to point out not to suggest drugs as a product, as i am considerably experienced with them, my guru is even recommendin heroin and LSD to me at the moment.  i agree with what you said about drugs and see how your imagination got a bit carried away there.  As samuel L jackson would say after delivering some powerful scripture "assumption is the mother of all bonk ups", ie assumption gives birth to bonked up situations, this is one of them, now we got men with families onto the acid and other families tearing each others stomach's up over a piece of a fruitcake

c'mon people wheres the love in this

on a serious note yeah i've tried that BWGEN I also easily tune out of the audio frequency and it doesnt just work in practice like the theory would suggest im a bit off the idea of spendin cash now

anyways im off to save private ryan

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G'day Folks!

nybster thanks.  u recovered a long lost memory of wisdom from my guru i'll share it in a second.  i musta been stupid wantin to spend my hard earnd cash on a product made by a bunch of robotic arms.  obviously it can be done the DIY way.   i've never been one to watch home improvement but i bet u are a regular viewer?  anyway id like to share a story that your message  surfaced...

my guru  (this was before he became enlightened)  was chomping down a huge bowl of Sultana Prana-Brana one day before he went to the gym - dont ask me why he ate big first thats just the way he did it.  he lookd into his cereal bowl and was very dissapointed with the pour, all he saw was a few little sultanas in the whole bowl.  so he left to go soggy and he started to contemplate instead, in sets of 3 x 12 - he was a bit of a dumbbell bak then so it took him a while.  eventually he peered into the Sultana Prana-Brana box and he realised that the sultanas - for whatever reason-  werent evenly spread through out the prana-brana so how could he expect to get to have a have a satisfactory daily pour.  every day itd be a different story, sultanas accumulated on the left side of the bowl, or the right side, or a whole cluster of sultanas left stuck inside the box but just wouldnt come out.  so that was it.    he decided he'd create his own sultana brana-prana mix.  took him a while but after several batches, many trips tot he health store, many poor performances at the gym, and yacked bowls he Finally got it Just Right.  

im guna build a DIY device but i havnt had the time yet, the coons round here have stolen all my loose change as well.

now where did my credit card go...


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if u stand up reading or meditating u r bound to get sore feet.  ugg-boots are really comfy because they are made out of wool and sheep are fluffy and soft

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to have good quality raisons you must start with healthy grapes.   if u let the grapes stay on the vine for long enuff then they start fermenting.  in other words, u can xpect to to get poisond energy from a city with lots of alcoholics.  go out to farmer joes country to get some of the good stuff m8..
u know how it is

lots of vitabix helps as well.

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i had 4 coppa's on me when i was was makin my way outta the main bank where i live with a few saks of cash, so i called on my psi-powers and i sent em flyin through the air in front of an oncoming train.  then i shoutd go web go and startd swinging from the sky scrapers to my secret hide out where i counted four mill in hundy bills.

u wanna know the secret
u gotta eat big lots of vitabix just like trevor hendy

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