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Dear Ferreus

I read your post regarding your computer experience.  I'm not an expert on metaphysics but in my opinion I agree with you and you went into a trance.

There are three trigger points for trance: repetition (monotony), boredom and tiredness.  The fact that you had spent quite a long time on the computer indicates that your typing was the repetition (monotony) and you became tired.  I also assume that you might have been shaking your leg too without realising it (repetition).  This is a great environment for a trance to flourish.  

I've been having automatic trances almost all my life as they've helped me to "switch off" from difficult circumstances during childhood.  The only problem is that I still do it without realizing it.  I've recently learnt how to control them....I DON'T shake a leg!

I believe that in this trance state you reach a point where you can't differentiate between reality and fantasy.  For example:  in my trance state I've sat outside and then my dog will appear and I believe he's really there but in reality he's inside sleeping.  

I don't know all the implications in terms of metaphysics but I can tell you from personal experience that I go into trance state (fantasy) to avoid what ever is happening in the reality state - this could be as simple as avoiding the fact that you are tired and you should be sleeping instead of working so many hours on your computer.  When in a trance state I start seeing things that aren't there and the point I want to make is that they really AREN'T there.  Maybe in future discoveries the scientists might determine that those things really ARE there but to keep myself sane I don't delve into it too much.  One should be careful when dealing with the fine line between fantasy and reality because you can go off your nut if you get caught up in the fantasy realm too much!

You may find this site interesting (I did):  http://www.trance.edu/

Best regards

Cayla

Dear Cesm23

I came across your post tonight and would specifically like to answer to how a trance state is achieved.  

I've been lucky as I've been doing this naturally all my life as I've had some really trying times.  I believe the trance state kept me sane as it was a mechanism to literally "switch me off" to my circumstances.  Most people aren't even aware that they are in a trance state while still being awake.  You might even be surprised and realize that you too have been in a trance many times.

Three critical factors needed for trance:  repetition, tiredness and boredom.  For example:  you sit at your computer and type (repetition and boredom), you then shake your leg (repetition) and hopefully you are tired.  This definitely works!  When you start seeing beings who aren't really there then you know you're in!  I've had to go a step beyond though and learn how to control my accidental trances as once in the trance state I cannot function normally and start seeing things - like living in a fantasy world.  I start seeing for example a dog that in reality is inside the house sleeping, but in the trance state is outside looking at me; people who in reality are in the house but magically appear outside.  I don't know all the mystical reasons for all these things but I've been doing it for years but now I control it as it gets in the way of me trying to live in the here and now.  

Cloud watching a brilliant way - I call it "zooming".  Lie on your back on the ground and watch the clouds and you'll see hundreds of pictures (but really zoom in and let it take you)...I find this is an automatic trance state.  

I do caution you though as I'm not aware of the implications of all of this and feel that it can't be healthy to live in that state all the time.  You somehow start finding it difficult to differentiate between reality and fantasy - watch out.

I hope this has helped you.  I found this site very useful: http://www.trance.edu/

Best regards
Cayla

A Nightmare on Elm Street (all of them).

Thank you for the link Flamethon.  I've looked at the site and it's exactly what I've been looking for.

Thank you Silversunset!  You've saved me lots of time and anguish as I've been running myself around in circles.  I won't be using this medium again.

Is it possible to astral travel into the past and future?

My mind has voluntarily blocked out events when I was little as I believe they are too traumatic.  I would, however, like to remember everything so that I can deal with it and move on.  I'd like to travel into the past and maybe talk to my "little self" to get answers.

Any ideas as to how I can contact my "little self", if at all possible?

Do you feel that internet tarot/runes/I Ching readings work?

My brother committed suicide by jumping off a building 16 years ago.  I was behind him because I tried to save him as I knew what he was going to do.  I was unfortunately unsuccessful in saving him.

A couple of years later I met him on the astral plane but it's as if he didn't want to engage in conversation....as if he had to go somewhere - or rather running from me.

I wasn't sure what to make of it as I didn't "call" him as such.

Dear MaDroX

What I tend to do is first go through the motions of tensing and relaxing every muscle starting at the feet and working upwards.  My whole body is relaxed at this stage and then I trigger a buzz in my ears.  I do this by (difficult to explain) trying to expand (or tensing/closing - not sure) my ear channels and after a couple of "ear drum pushes" it tends to create a loud constant buzz.  I believe it's the buzz in the ears that "switches" me off from outside noise or interference.

You could even try it now while you're totally awake and then when you're ready to do your journey, simulate the tensing/expanding/closing of the ear drum.

I also find that when the buzz is really loud I start pushing my eyeballs totally back i.e. eyes looking up towards your forehead.  I do this a couple of times (again you could even try it while you're awake).  

This is entirely my own method:  a combination of the ear buzz and eye movement seems to force you to disengage with your current surroundings and thus enable you to disconnect from your physical body.

I can't guarantee it will work for you but who knows?

Best regards
Cayla

Dear EnderZ

I would imagine that if you had a strong motive as to what it is you want to accomplish then this would naturally get you out there.  

I've copied my method of how I maintain focus here:

What I tend to do is first go through the motions of tensing and relaxing every muscle starting at the feet and working upwards. My whole body is relaxed at this stage and then I trigger a buzz in my ears. I do this by (difficult to explain) trying to expand (or tensing/closing - not sure) my ear channels and after a couple of "ear drum pushes" it tends to create a loud constant buzz. I believe it's the buzz in the ears that "switches" me off from outside noise or interference.

You could even try it now while you're totally awake and then when you're ready to do your journey, simulate the tensing/expanding/closing of the ear drum.

I also find that when the buzz is really loud I start pushing my eyeballs totally back i.e. eyes looking up towards your forehead. I do this a couple of times (again you could even try it while you're awake).

This is entirely my own method: a combination of the ear buzz and eye movement seems to force you to disengage with your current surroundings and thus enable you to disconnect from your physical body.  Not to mention that the noise level of the buzz will definitely keep you in an aware state instead of falling asleep.

I can't guarantee it will work for you but who knows?



Best regards
Cayla

I see geometric shapes when coming out of an astral journey. There is a circle in front of me of some sort spinning into different shapes (it's at night so I can't see it so clearly in the dark). Why does it only happen when I'm coming out of the astral journey and have returned into my body? What is the purpose of the shapes?

I see geometric shapes when coming out of an astral journey.  There is a circle in front of me of some sort spinning into different shapes (it's at night so I can't see it so clearly in the dark).  Why does it only happen when I'm coming out of the astral journey and have returned into my body?  What is the purpose of the shapes?