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I'm glad to have found this forum !  I'll try to be clear, I'm from Quebec and I usually speak french.

I would like to know what are the sensations you feel when you seem to have an Astral Projection.

I 've had the same experiences for 4 years when I sleep in afternoon.  When it's happenning, I hear a very loud sound, like vibrations, I can almost feel them.  And then I can't move my "physic body" anymore...  Very often, I panic and I try to "wake up".

Since a year, I try to control my fears about this and I want to progress.  I have a diary to write all my experiences about astral or lucid dreams, because I want to study this phenomena.  I had some interesting experiences, but they are very basic.  I don't control my OBE experiences.

Sorry for my bad english, I hope you'll understand what I wrote

Clarine

Hi !

I write a diary of all my Obe-like experiences or lucid dreams.  For me, it is important to note my experiences and my thoughts about that, because I want to analyse it and maybe it will help someone to understand this phenomena later.

My diary is online and french, so be free to visit it.

Clarine

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  Hi Douglas !

I think that you don't have the obligation to have an OBE as soon as possible if you are not ready to have it !  You are still young, take your time !

Here's my experience :

I had my first OBE symptoms 4 years ago.  But since last summer, I started to read and study a lot this phenomena.  I was not necessarely trying to have an OBE, I was just trying to understand it.  I was afraid very much and I had sleep problems and insomnia for a month !  It was very difficult, and I could'nt talk about it to my relatives, because they don't really believe in that...

By small moves, I started to be quiet about that.  I tried to have something else in my life to "forget" my fears : I played music, I did art crafts, etc.  And I meditated a lot.  My fears diminushed.

We just have to remember that before knowing this phenomena, we were sleeping all nights and we had OBE without having conscious of that...  Well, where is the problem now ?!

Now, I try to have OBE , I do my experiences by little moves, I really take my time.  If I don't want to think about that, I try to do something different in my life for few days, then all my subconscient "thinks" about something else.  I'm only 24 years old and my device is : " I'll have a long life to experiment ! "

Here's my advice for you : first, try to sleep comfortably, without thinking of OBE, you have to be revigorated and make your "tiredness" gone.  While you are doing that, accept this wonderful gift and be convicted that it's a natural thing.  When your health will be ok, and if your mind want to, you can try to have satisfying OBE.  I think your fears will disappear very fast.

Remember : you're not alone !  You'll survive

Take care,

Clarine xxx

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Hi everyone,

Well, material things are definetly a big part of our modern lives.  But are we able to live with all these things and have time to develop our insides, our minds ?

I think this is a question of priority.  Some people like to watch tv all day to be happy, some like to go out and spend money in stores and cinemas.  Some like to play Bingo.  

Are they necessarely unhappy ?

I don't think so.

Only happiness counts.  Maybe something (like having spiritual experiences) is very important and good for someone, but it must be bored for someone else.

The most important thing is trying to accept the priorities of the ones we love and live with their reality, even if we disagree with that.  Sometimes, it's difficult, but that's the way.

Clarine xxx

Hi !

When I began to feel the "symptoms" of OBE, I started to read a lot about it, to learn more.  This new reality was very frightening for me and I had weeks of insomnia...  It was a difficult period to climb this mountain of fears.

Finally, I became more informed, I understood a lot of things and my fears just diminushed.

I'm still afraid to have OBE but I work very hard to eliminate my fears about that and I try to develop this wonderful thing.

Be patient, your fears will go

Take care,

Clarine xxx

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  Hi Pete !

Hope my english will be ok, I usually speak french.

When I was young, I was very interested by astral travels.  One day, when I was 20, I woke up in afternoon and I had a wake paralysis.  I was afraid and I said to myself : "Oh no, I'm going to have an astral travel !"  I never read about the subject before, but I knew that this paralysis had something with OBE.

After that frightening episode, I read a lot about the subject and I saw that wake paralysis is a prelude to OBE.  

I don't think this is dangerous, just stay calm and decide if you want to let the experience go or wake up.  Try to live with this new reality, I think this is something wonderful that's happenning to us.  It's happenning to every one in this world, but WE are able to recognize and be conscient of this phenomena.

Be quiet, Pete !

Clarine xxx

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Hi all !

Sorry for my bad english, I usually speak french.  I'll try my best to be clear.

One day, I had an experience.  I was sleeping on the couch of my living room and I had an OBE.  My "astral" body was still layed on the couch and I could move my arms.  I decided to pass my fingers throught the couch.  When I was thinking that passing my fingers was easy, I could do it without resistance.  But when I thought that it was hard to do, there was a resistance and I had to push stronger to be able to pass my fingers.

Maybe we have to think or beleive that it's easy to encourage the experience of passing trought objets to be easy...  I don't know... Understand what I'm saying ?

Have a nice day,

Clarine xxx

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Hi !

I don't really have a method;  often I have the vibrations when I slowly wake up (when I sleep in the afternoon)

I think that if you think a lot about OBE, if you read about that very often and you have these ideas very much in your head, it can be easier to have an OBE experience, because all your body is accepting this reality.

This is my theory )

Hope you'll understand my bad french-english !

Clarine xxx

Hi !

What is scaring me ?  It's stupid...

I'm scared to be scared...

I don't know how to explain, it's easier to me in french.

When I have OBE, I'm afraid to see monsters and things like that.  But I know that if I think about these things, I can even imagine them and be afraid because of my fears...

I'm working to take it easy.

Clarine xxx

Hi Paul from New Brunswick !  Nice to meet you ;o)

Frank :
When I had these feelings for the first time (about 4 years ago), I did'nt think I was dying, I firstly thought that I was going to have an OBE...  I read few books before this experience and I knew that it was an OBE.  

Now, for this summer, I decided to learn more about this, because I want to have succesful experiences, without FEARS (  

Thanks ! )

Clarine